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Sarepta Therapeutics, Inc. (SRPT) Q4 2014 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2015-02-26 15:05:14
Executives
Ian Estepan - Senior Director, Corporate Affairs Chris Garabedian - CEO Sandy Mahatme - CFO Ed Kaye - Chief Medical Officer
Analysts
Steve Byrne - Bank of America Merrill Lynch Jeremiah Shepard - Credit Suisse Christopher Marai - Oppenheimer Debjit Chattopadhyay - Roth Capital Partners Joseph Schwartz - Leerink Partners Ritu Baral - Cowen & Company Heather Behanna - Wedbush Securities Brian Klein - Stifel Brian Skorney - Robert W. Baird Adam Walsh - Canaccord Genuity Kumar Raja - Citi Steve Brozak - WBB Securities
Operator
Welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2014 Sarepta Therapeutics Incorporated Earnings Conference Call. My name is Ellen and I will be your operator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Ian Estepan, Senior Director of Corporate Affairs. Mr. Estepan, you may begin.
Ian Estepan
Thank you, Ellen and thank you all for joining today's call. Earlier today, we released our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2014. The press release is available on our website at www.sarepta.com and our 10-K was filed earlier this morning. Joining me on the call today are Chris Garabedian, Sarepta's Chief Executive Officer; Sandy Mahatme, Sarepta's Chief Financial Officer and Ed Kaye, Sarepta's Chief Medical Officer. I would like to note that during this call, we will be making a number of statements that are forward-looking, including statements about our manufacturing capabilities and plans for eteplirsen and our follow-on exon-skipping product candidates, expected initiation, enrolment, dosing and progress of our clinical trials, the potential market size for our DMD candidates, the potential applications of our research efforts to advance our PMO platform chemistry to various disease areas, our plans in 2015 to advance our DMD programs and our promising early development programs beyond DMD, Sarepta’s vision to develop multiple products for important indications using what we believe is the best in class chemistry, our planned timing of and efforts to satisfy FDA request for additional data and now assist in connections with our planned mid-year NDA submission for eteplirsen, the currently planned NDA content and the additional supplemental information and more complete data set that we expect to provide after the NDA submission, the planned timing for obtaining FDA input, having meetings with the FDA in the topics that may be covered such as methods to assess dystrophin and muscle samples and requirements for an acceptable NDA filing. The additional planned biopsies and boys participating in our extension study and methods we plan to use to measure dystrophin. Our plans to continue advancing and enhancing our understanding of exon-skipping, the role of dystrophin and advancing dystrophin quantification and measurements, our potential manufacturing ramp beyond our current and planned clinical studies, the potential of eteplirsen as a life-long treatment starting at the very young age, Sarepta’s beliefs about eteplirsen’s potential and the potential timeline for an accelerated approval and the timing of our plans to provide financial guidance. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, any of which are beyond Sarepta's control. Actual results could materially differ from these forward-looking statements as any such risks can materially and adversely affect the business, results of operations and the trading price of Sarepta's common stock. For a detailed description of risks and uncertainties we face, you're encouraged to review the company's most recently filed annual and quarterly reports and other corporate documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, let me turn the call over to Chris Garabedian, Sarepta's Chief Executive Officer. Chris?
Chris Garabedian
Thank you, Ian. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today for a financial and corporate update for the fourth quarter and full year of 2014. I will be providing an update on our lead candidate for Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy or DMD, eteplirsen and our broader Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy program, including an update on the clinical and regulatory activities for eteplirsen and the latest on our follow-on exon-skipping drugs for DMD. Ed Kaye, our Chief Medical Officer will provide a more thorough review of our recent clinical results and status of the current clinical programs, and Sandy Mahatme, our Chief Financial Officer, will provide an update on our financials for the 2014 year end. 2014 was a year in which we expanded our DMD pipeline and initiated several clinical programs to advance our PMO technology. We made great strides over the past year in a number of areas. We worked closely and extensively with the FDA to determine a potential accelerated approval of regulatory pathway for eteplirsen. We established a large scale of manufacturing of our PMO technology, and introduced multiple batches of quality eteplirsen, as well as drug products for our exon-53 and 45 exon skipping product candidates for DMD and we expanded our clinical development programs for three drug candidates with three new trial that began dosing patients in the last six months and two more trials that will begin dosing in the months ahead. Together the successful development of these candidates would have the potential to address more than one quarter of the DMD population. Furthermore we advanced our research technology and identified multiple new applications for our proprietary PMO chemistry in the neuromuscular rare disease and infectious disease areas. We look to build on this momentum in 2015 and advancing our DMD programs and the promising early development programs beyond DMD. In summary, this year we will have six different DMD trials underway, dosing patients across a wide spectrum of the DMD population. While we cannot predict when we will have all of these studies fully enrolled, the target number of patients across all of these studies is more than 300 patients with more than 200 expected to receive treatment across our three exon-skipping drugs. Outside of DMD, we've announced some promising new research programs, including adult-onset Pompe disease, Myostatin inhibition and gram-negative bacterial infections among others and continue to advance research programs in multiple areas that we have not yet disclosed. We are conducting research studies at our two research facilities in Corvallis, Oregon and our headquarters location in Cambridge, Massachusetts and have expanded our research team at both locations in the last six months to work with our current scientific leadership team to advance our research platform. We believe that favorable drug-like characteristics and the proof of concept safety and efficacy data observed with our PMO chemistries in our DMD and on anti-viral programs can be applied to many other therapeutic areas in support of our vision of developing multiple products for important indications, utilizing what we believe is a best-in-class chemistry across the RNA therapeutic landscape. As excited as we are about our research platform and the progress of our clinical studies, our highest priorities are compiling and analyzing the various data requested by the FDA in the pre-NDA meeting minutes we announced last October and meeting with the FDA in the second quarter to ensure our expectations are aligned with the FDA regarding our plans for an NDA submission and the requirements for an acceptable NDA filing. In the meantime, our regulatory team has been busy compiling the NDA and is ready to incorporate new safety and efficacy data as it comes in to meet our mid-year target for an NDA submission. To highlight the key data sets that the FDA has requested, as part of the NDA, we announced in mid-January the 168-week clinical efficacy and safety data and at the same time indicated that we had already begun dosing the minimum range of 12 to 24 patients newly exposed to eteplirsen to fulfill the request of a minimum of three months of safety in these patients. The compilation and analysis of rescored dystrophin data is also on track to be discussed with the FDA at a second quarter meeting and included in an NDA submission. Lastly, we are still compiling and analyzing independent natural history data on the six-minute walk test and MRI assessments from various institutions and expect to have analyses ready for inclusion in an NDA. At a recent investment conference, we also announced progress in obtaining a fourth biopsy in patients from our ongoing extension trial study 202 and we were pleased to share that we’ve already obtained biopsies from nine of the 12 boys in the study with two more scheduled to receive biopsies next month for a total of 11. We are working with the FDA to ensure we gain their input on various methods through which we will assess dystrophin from these muscle samples, as we believe these data will help us understand the levels of dystrophin production after almost 3.5 years of eteplirsen treatment. We intend to measure dystrophin and our drug’s activity through a variety of assays, including western blot, RT PCR and immunohistochemistry. While the FDA did not require data from a fourth biopsy to be included in the NDA in its most recent guidance, we plan to include as part of the submission any data that has been fully analyzed and expect to supplement the NDA with a more complete data set after an NDA submission. Similarly, while the FDA did not require the 192-week data from our phase 2b study to be included in the NDA, we expect to share these data with the FDA in parallel or shortly after an NDA submission to be considered as part of the review. I want to highlight how grateful we are at Sarepta for the commitment of the boys in our studies and their families and for enduring the requirements of this long-term study, with the extensive travel and clinical outcome testing required to generate this important clinical information. And importantly, to undergo four surgical biopsies to advance our understanding of dystrophin production with eteplirsen treatment. We hope to continue to enhance our understanding of exon skipping and the role of dystrophin while continuing to advance the field of dystrophin measurements and quantification. The cause of Duchenne is an inability of these boys’ genes to produce the dystrophin protein. Our drug is designed to produce a functional form of the dystrophin protein and we think it is important to understand the degree and extent that we are able to do this in muscle after several years of treatment with eteplirsen. We would not be able to achieve this without the brave and heroic efforts of the boys in our studies and their supportive family as we hope this understanding will support an NDA submission for eteplirsen and potentially help established surrogate marker for follow-on exon skipping drugs for DMD. Lastly, I'd like to convey that we currently have enough quality drug supply to dose all patients in our current and upcoming clinical studies across our three exon skipping drugs for DMD. Our manufacturing ramp beyond the clinical studies plan will be dependent on the timing of our NDA submission and in the anticipation of a potential approval of eteplirsen in the US. If we are successful in achieving an accelerated approval of eteplirsen, we expect to prepare enough drug supply to manage any commercial demand for eteplirsen at the time of the product launch. With that, I’d like to turn the call over to Ed Kaye, our Chief Medical Officer to provide an update on our clinical activities.
Ed Kaye
Thanks, Chris and I’d also like to express our gratitude to all of the families who have made sacrifices to participate in our various clinical studies and appreciate their willingness to contribute to our understanding of our exon-skipping products and advancing the science of Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy. To begin our clinical update on our DMD program I would like to provide a brief summary of our recent 168-week data which we announced earlier this year. The topline data were released from our ongoing phase 2 extension study, study 202 included a summary of six minute walk test results, pulmonary function outcomes and the safety profile for eteplirsen through 168 weeks. The 10 boys in our modified intent to treat analysis which included all those patients who could perform the six minute walk test, remain in ambulant through 168 weeks. However all patients did show a decline in distance walked on this measure since the week 144 time point. The continues eteplirsen cohort showed the benefit of 65 meters which is sufficiently significant through week 168 on the six minute walk test compared to placebo light treatment. We are encouraged that we've seen a sustained benefit of the eteplirsen treatment cohort over the placebo delayed eteplirsen going back to the week 36 time point. We believe these data are encouraging given the average age of these patients and our selection criteria which excluded boys with relatively high six minute walk test baselines. Since we're also excluding boys who were younger than seven years of age, our boys started at an average age of more than nine years and today we have half of the boys who are in their teens with an average age of 12 and half years. It's important to note that the boys in this study were expressly chosen to participate through our inclusion and exclusion criteria because they were anticipated to decline on the six minute walk test over a 24 to 48 week period based on their age and also their baseline six minute walk test distance. To emphasize this point, in our modified intent to treat analysis it has taken over three years with the eteplirsen treated arm to lose about the same amount of distance that the placebo delayed group lost in the first 36 weeks of the study. It is notable that a significant difference can still be seen 2.5 years later despite the small sample size and initial stabilization and subsequent rate of decline has been similar across both cohorts, now that both have received eteplirsen for more than two half years. Our pulmonary function test which includes data from the non-ambulant boys in the study continued to show stability across the entire cohort. Specifically pulmonary function has remained stable over three years across this 12 patient cohort as measured by percent predicted maximum inspiratory pressure, MIP and expiratory pressure MEP. The absolute maximum pressures showed increases over this nearly 3 year timeframe. The increases of MIP and MEP and the stability of MIP and MEP percent predicted were generally consistent across the cohort, including the two non-ambulant twins who have now been stable for more than two years in an non-ambulant state. Our clinical observations of lung function are supported by our preclinical studies which demonstrated high levels of protein expression in diaphragm. Lastly I’d like to highlight the safety profile of eteplirsen. Through 168 weeks we continued to exhibit a notable level of tolerability with no clinically significant treatment related serious adverse events, treatment related hospitalizations or treatment discontinuations. In the past 24 weeks there have been no incidences of transient proteinuria. More notably the rate of proteinuria across the study has occurred at a lower rate than the placebo background rate in the first 24 weeks of the study. Given that eteplirsen has the potential to be a lifelong treatment to be initiated in many patients at the time of diagnosis at a very young age we believe the safety profile will be important to healthcare providers and families when choosing a potential DMD therapy. In summary, the 168-week data represents the longest continuous dosing trial of any exon-skipping therapy to date. It has generated a robust body of evidence of treating boys in both the ambulant and non-ambulant state, we continue to be encouraged by the six minute walk test data seen to date and the ongoing ambulation and pulmonary function of the boys. The focus for the clinical development team here at Sarepta for the first half of this year is on the successful execution of the confirmatory and other clinical trials. Last year we initiated our study 301 PROMOVI which is our confirmatory study of eteplirsen in patients 7 to 16 years of age who can walk at least 300 meters on the six minute walk test distance. This study is proceeding on schedule in regard to site initiations and enrolment. The projected time for full enrollment is the end of 2015. The study in poorly non-ambulant DMD boys up to 21 years of age, study 4658–204 has been initiated and enrollment is progressing on schedule with completion of enrollment anticipated by midyear. Study 4658–203 is our study which includes younger DMD patients ages four and six years of age. The study incorporates MRI studies and includes a non-exon 52 on minimal untreated control arm. This study is expected to commence enrollment in the second quarter of 2015. Other studies evaluating our follow-on exon-drugs are well into development. Study 4053-101 conducted entirely in Europe has been initiated and the part 1 dose titration phase is currently enrolling with full enrollment of both phases of the study on track to be completed by the end of 2015. Our remaining confirmatory trial study 804 is progressing nicely towards study initiation. This study is a double-blind randomized placebo-controlled study which incorporates an innovative study design in that it includes patients amenable to either exon 45 skipping or exon 53 skipping. The minimum number of patients enrolled for each drug will be approximately 30 patients each, with the two to one randomization of patients through either drug or placebo arms and a target enrollment of at least 90 boys in total. The study 4045 beta four will be initiated in the US by midyear with the EU enrollment beginning in the late 2015 and early 2016. With that, I’d like to turn the call back over to Chris.
Chris Garabedian
Thank you, Ed. Ed’s clinical update really highlights Sarepta’s dramatic transformation over the past couple of quarters. Less than a year ago we did not have the quality drugs applied to begin treating patients outside of study 202 as we had focused much of 2013 and early 2014 in establishing a larger scale of production, improving our manufacturing processes and generating quality drug product. In this short time period, we have released sufficient quality drug supply for a robust clinical program that will be generating data over the course of the next couple of years and obtained additional feedback on FDA expectations for an acceptable NDA submission that we continue to work towards. We believe we have a potentially best in class disease modifying drug candidate with a strong biochemical data set, good clinical outcomes and a strong safety profile in late stage clinical development with the opportunity of an NDA filing later this year for a potential accelerated approval in 2016. I am very proud of our team’s execution and we are well-positioned for the future. Now I’d like to turn the call over to Sandy Mahatme, our chief financial officer for an update on our financials for the 2014 year end.
Sandy Mahatme
Thanks, Chris. Good morning everyone. This morning's press release provided details for the fourth quarter and full-year 2014 in both an adjusted or on non-GAAP basis as well as the GAAP basis. The press release is available on the SEC and company websites. The non-GAAP results we will discuss on this call provide a more accurate picture of our ongoing operations and the impact of operations on our cash balance and they exclude the impact from the valuation of our outstanding warrants and stock compensation expenses. I would like to point out that all warrants have been exercised or have expired as of the end of the third quarter of 2014. Please refer to our press release for a full reconciliation of GAAP and non-GAAP. In the fourth quarter of 2014 we reported an adjusted or non-GAAP net loss of $38.6 million or $0.94 per share compared to non-GAAP net loss of $29.1 million or $0.77 per share in the fourth quarter of 2013. The incremental net loss is primarily the result of increased operating expenses as a result of corporate growth as well as a decrease in revenues from our government contracts. Revenue for the fourth quarter of 2014 decreased from the $2.6 million of revenue for the fourth quarter of 2013 primarily due to the July 2014 expiration of the Marburg portion of the Ebola Marburg US government contract. Adjusted research and development expenses were $28.4 million for the fourth quarter of 2014 compared to $23.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2013, an increase of $4.8 million. Adjusted general and administrative expenses were $10.5 million for the fourth quarter of 2014 compared to $8.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2013, an increase of $2.3 million. For the full-year 2014 we reported an adjusted or non-GAAP net loss of $112.7 million or $2.81 per share compared to a non-GAAP net loss of $78.1 million or $2.31 per share for the prior year. The incremental net loss was primarily the result of a $4.5 million decrease in contract revenue and $30.6 million increase in operating expenses. Revenue for the full-year 2014 was $9.8 million, down from $14.2 million in the prior year primarily due to the July 2014 expiration of the Marburg portion of the Ebola Marburg US government contract. Adjusted research and development expenses were $86 million for the full-year 2014 compared to $68.6 million for the prior year which is an increase of $17.4 million. Adjusted general and administrative expenses were $37.2 million for the full-year 2014 compared to $24.0 million for the prior year which is an increase of $13.2 million. The balance of our cash, cash equivalents and investments was $211.1 million as of December 31, 2014 compared to $264.9 million as of December 31, 2013 and a decrease of $53.8 million. The decrease is primarily driven by the use of cash to fund our ongoing operations, offset by the net proceeds we received from the exercise of warrants and stock options as well as the company's public offering in April of 2014. We anticipate providing guidance on our non-GAAP operating loss for 2015 during our Q1 earnings call. With that, I’d like to turn the call back over to Chris.
Chris Garabedian
Yes, thanks Sandy. Operator we can open the call to questions.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Steve Byrne with Bank of America.
Steve Byrne
Just following up on your last comment there, Sandy, about you said you’d provide guidance after the first quarter. Can you comment qualitatively about R&D expense, you had 30 million in the fourth quarter with the new trials enrolling, roughly where do you think that run rate could be during the 2015 period?
Sandy Mahatme
Steve, thanks for the question. We will be in a better position in early May once we have had our discussions with the FDA. Right now it would be a bit premature but having said that with our clinical trials enrolling we expect that expense to ramp up. In addition to that, the R&D expenses also include manufacturing expenses, so both those expenses are in that line item. So we will see an increase but at this point it would be a little early to guide on the expense there.
Steve Byrne
And then a question for Ed, as you look at these natural history databases do you think that you will be also able to look at pulmonary function in those comparisons in addition to percent ambulation and six minute walk metrics?
Ed Kaye
We are -- certainly we’re looking – we’re doing analysis for the six minute walk test and we’re also looking at the feasibility of the pulmonary function and try to make that comparison too. So we are working on that but we haven't determined what the feasibility will be.
Operator
The next question is from Jeremiah Shepard from Credit Suisse.
Jeremiah Shepard
In terms of the 192-week out from the 202 study, how might we think about the trajectory going forward and are there any patients at risk for losing a relation between the last readout and the next readout?
Chris Garabedian
Jeremiah, this is Chris. As we mentioned we’re not guiding on any new disclosures, we’re focused on bringing all of our data to the FDA and focused on working with them to get an acceptable NDA filing. The 192 week data as you know you will have around mid year and we can share that with the FDA. In terms of expectations I think we consider this data set already a success in having maintained the ambulation over more than three years in these 10 boys that we have been following on the six minute walk test. So we know that they’ve experienced declines, we know this is not a cure especially in the advanced age and more progressed disease that these boys had at baseline. So again we don't know when no who or how many will lose ambulation but we stated going back to two data points ago that we had a couple boys below 300 meters in that those would be projected to decline and that we indicated that 168 weeks we believe that was a finding if those two boys were still on their feet. So we again would not be surprised if we see no continued declines if the majority of these boys maintain ambulation we think that is a positive finding of clinical outcomes, but we’re not guiding on expectations around that. This is a progressive disease and we have as we've always done reported on this every 24 week updates, Ed?
Ed Kaye
I think this is actually right. Obviously what we started to say at the beginning with week 144 is that there is a decline and obviously we expect that that will continue and I think it's really the rate of decline that we’re seeing the difference and that's what we’re really commenting on that we’re seeing a slower rate of decline but we don't expect discrepancies.
Jeremiah Shepard
In terms of the NDA filing, and you are still saying mid this year, are there any expectations for when you might be able to provide some more clarity, like for example would you need to wait for the meeting minutes before you actually update the Street or do you actually think you might have some sort of guidance from the FDA following your meeting in Q2?
Chris Garabedian
Jeremiah, it's hard to predict this. Over the last couple of years we've had a variety of different interactions with the FDA, some that are very clear definitive conclusions, some that we can report on based on their pre-meeting comments and meeting itself, some that we’ve had delayed for the meeting minutes to provide that clarity. But again we've always tried to be very transparent about our communications with the FDA. So once we have something more definitive to guide the street on we will do so. But it's hard to predict when, how, what that looks like in terms of the reconfirming and more specificity around the NDA filing. But right now we as a company are committed to submit year NDA filing but we also need to go to the FDA with some of these new data sets, discuss that with them and to make sure we’re in alignment of what is going to go into the NDA and enable a successful filing. That’s all we can tell you at this point.
Jeremiah Shepard
And just the last question in terms of that meeting you’re going to have in Q2, do you expect to have all the data the FDA requested last October and the meeting minutes that you’ve seen last October?
Chris Garabedian
We don't have everything fully compiled and analyzed but the substantive parts of those data set requests we believe we would have. So we think the important elements that we believe the FDA is going to want to focus on will be part of that meeting.
Operator
The next question is from Chris Marai with Oppenheimer.
Christopher Marai
I wanted to just touch base again on the additional information requested by the FDA and really could you comment on what’s the most consuming or complicated part there, is that the biopsies? And then just to recap with respect to those biopsies, the new biopsies, are you analyzing those differently from the first sets in the phase 2 trial?
Chris Garabedian
Chris, there's two answers to that. I think compiling and analyzing data that is not our own is probably the area that is requiring the most work. So this is the natural history data, collecting and analyzing data that’s not ours and from various institutions. So we’re in the process of that, that’s something that is very time intensive. We know our own data sets very well, we know how they come, we know how to structure the analytics around that, but we are dealing with multiple and disparate data sets from different institutions that requires a lot of work to compile. As it relates to the fourth biopsy again as we described this was not a requirement of the FDA but we believe that it enhances the understanding of this drug and its effect in the muscles and in these boys. And so we want to work with the FDA to ensure that we’re doing it to their satisfaction and so this is where it's hard to predict, how all of those discussions and all the different ways we’re going to a measure dystrophin are going to play out in the sequence of as we compile those data. But again if we can improve the way we capture those data to the satisfaction of the FDA, that’s going to be the priority. That’s all we’re ready to say at this point until we have more information to share regarding the fourth biopsy.
Christopher Marai
And then you noted that if you have better guidance on accelerated approval you prepare to produce additional product but it sounds like you’re currently not there yet in terms of manufacturing, what's holding you back from this level of production, is it just not technically feasible, is the cost too high or are you just unsure of the chance for approval at the time point?
Chris Garabedian
Thanks Chris. Of course we don't have a guarantee of approval, we’d be in a different situation in terms of ramping up commercial scale. What we have been focused on over the last couple years is producing the subunits that go into the API production. So we have sufficient subunits to prepare for a commercial launch. This reduces the timeframe from converting those subunits into a final product or API. So as we get traction and as our assessment of the probability of success increase we’re going to pull the trigger to start preparing for that commercial scale but to do that prematurely and have drug product that is sitting on the shelf is costly and it’s inefficient for the company to do that. And so I think we will be prepared if we need that drug supply but we’re not going to put additional resources behind it, we want to conserve as much capital as we can on our balance sheet until we know we need that drug supply.
Christopher Marai
And then a slightly softball question here, how is progress coming in the EU and then just could you comment on the rest of world expectations in that if potentially accelerated approval were to occur in the US would you be expecting to access rest of world market?
Chris Garabedian
So Europe, we already gave an update earlier this year that we did have an early meeting. It was a nonbinding guidance meeting where they indicated that the current data set that we have today is unlikely to be sufficient for a conditional approval .However it was a very productive collegial meeting, they encouraged us to go back and talk to them as more data emerges, whether it's from our existing study or the new studies that are ongoing. And so we expect to continue that dialogue with EMA but at this point we’ve not indicated that we would be filing an EMA on the current data set. So we will continue to provide updates with that progress. If we were to obtain approval in the US by the FDA we would look at those territories that could reference an approval in the US for potential commercial approval in those territories. Again it’s premature to speculate on that but that's something we thought about, we plan for the possibility of that but our focus right now is working with the FDA on the chance to get this drug approved in the US and then we will be ready to address where else we could go beyond that.
Operator
The next question is from Simos Simeonidis with RBC Capital Markets.
Unidentified Analyst
This is David in for Simos. I had a question. In addition to safety data, are you planning to collect any upper limb or pulmonary data from the study and non-ambulatory boys?
Ed Kaye
Yes, you mean in the study 204, the non-ambulant, yes. We will be collecting efficacy endpoints some new test looking at our exploratory performance of limb test etc. and we will be doing detailed pulmonary function on these boys.
Operator
The next question is Debjit Chattopadhyay with Roth Capital Partners.
Debjit Chattopadhyay
Chris, I was wondering how has the rescoring of the dystrophin been completed and do you see any – with that data set?
Chris Garabedian
Yes, Debjit, we said on multiple counts now, we’re not going to be discussing any of compilation and analysis, status or updates. We're doing all of the data that the FDA requested and when we have that compiled we will bring that to the FDA and we will discuss with them and until then we’re not going to comment on any data analysis or compilation of that in the interim.
Debjit Chattopadhyay
In terms of the enrolment PROMOVI study, is that tracking as per expectations or could you update us on the number of patients on the two arms? And are you also taking biopsies from the control arm and is that an issue in terms of enrolling patients to that?
Chris Garabedian
Debjit, I will just say we indicated we will not be providing updates on specific enrollment numbers for patient, again we’ve highlighted that we started dosing in two of the eteplirsen studies or exon 53 study in Europe. And again we've also indicated that we hope to have a potential data readout end of ‘16 that would enable - that would require a full enrollment or closing of the 301 study by the end of ’15. So that's all the guidance we’re giving at this point. Ed, do you want to take the other questions?
Ed Kaye
Yes. And I think in regards to the question far as the biopsies, recall that for the PROMOVI study it is a non-exon 51 amenable group, so we are not requiring biopsies for this group. We are obviously doing biopsies – two biopsies for the treated cohort and so obviously what we try to do is to make the study as easy as possible for the non-treatment control group just so that it is not too burdensome.
Debjit Chattopadhyay
And one last question on eteplirsen might be in the US, could you update us on what the progress is or what we should expect going down ’15 and ’16?
Chris Garabedian
You’re referring to the interference that was in play in on exon 51, eteplirsen and exon 53. Look there is no particular update to provide at this point. We expect the first phase of the proceedings toward the latter half of this year and until then we have filed our arguments and it'll play out accordingly over the next year. And so at this point we have nothing further to update on the interference.
Operator
The next question is from Joseph Schwartz with Leerink Partners.
Joseph Schwartz
I was wondering I guess I don't understand why another meeting with the FDA is required. So can you talk about the areas that you feel you need to get more clarity on and I guess I don't understand why you just don't perform the work that the FDA requested in October and file in mid ’15.
Chris Garabedian
Thanks Joe. I think it is a fair question, however, if you recall in our October guidance they asked us to come back to them and we believe that is because they asked for additional data and they wanted to allow a discussion of any new data that would go into the NDA. We want to make sure that the division and the reviewers have what they need to consider the potential approval of this drug. We want to make sure that NDA is complete enough for them to do an adequate review of the drug. And so it's in our best interest to make sure there is alignment there and if there's any questions or clarification that are needed in any of the additional data that we’ve compiled whether that be the 168 week data, whether that be some of the safety data, whether that be the natural history analysis, whether that be the rescore of the dystrophin positive fibers, we want to have an opportunity to discuss that with them. I think if there was something the change in that and the FDA felt that they had enough, and no meeting was required, that might change it but right now they’ve requested a meeting dating back to our October guidance and we plan to fulfill their request.
Operator
The next question is from Ritu Baral from Cowen.
Ritu Baral
I just wanted to on follow-up on something that came up in an answer to Chris’ questions on Europe. When the EMA most focused on when they basically decided that the data set wouldn’t be adequate for them, especially in regards to trial design or dystrophin, given they have actually approved Translana before the US did, what are sort of the key takeaways we should be taking from all of this?
Ed Kaye
Hi Ritu, this is Ed. It is a fair question and there really weren't any major concerns that were raised. It really was coming down to the small data set and the fact that was only on 12 patients and obviously Translana has a much larger data set and in addition to their ongoing phase 3 study. So it really came down to the numbers of patients that, that was what their concern was.
Ritu Baral
Was there any discussion of their perspective on dystrophin?
Ed Kaye
No, we really didn't have that discussion. Obviously they were interested in our data set but they didn't really comment on the specificity of dystrophin is a biomarker.
Chris Garabedian
Ritu, I will just add that, we did share with them our current clinical program. We discussed with them the eteplirsen confirmatory study. There was a good exchange, good opportunity to explain the trial design, the untreated cohort, our expectations and overall we all left with the feeling that was a really good exchange, that there was a knowledge base in the reviewers that we spoke with. And we were encouraged by it and again we think that even if some of the ongoing data that we’re collecting for the FDA may provide us another opportunity to go back to the EMA even before additional data is compiled from study 301 let’s say. So again we left encouraged and at this moment there is not much we can do with the current data set.
Operator
The next question is from Robyn Karnauskas with Deutsche Bank.
Unidentified Analyst
Hi guys, this is Evan in for Robyn. Thank you for taking my question. Just a quick one in regard to the MRI data. Have you had issues getting access to this, has the FDA really -- have they been had to intervene to get it from independent parties? And when you described some of the important elements that the FDA would want, what are those?
Chris Garabedian
MRI data, I just want to clarify. While it was a recommendation of the FDA they understood the limitation of capturing all the data we might want to see from the independent centers. So we are getting as much data as we can, again it's unclear at this point what a treatment effect an exon-skipping drug will result in on MRI. I think we watched like everybody else the understanding of disease progression on various MRI markers like fat fraction as an example but we still don't understand what a treatment effect of exon skipping will have in interpreting MRI data. So it's hard to speculate at this point what are those markers and endpoints that might show a signal or are going to have the most impact. Ed?
Ed Kaye
And I also emphasize that the sites have been incredibly generous with their time in sharing data and helping us. So we really have not had any problems with getting the data. I think what Chris has mentioned is really we’re trying to understand what is the treatment effect on the MRI because it hasn’t been done before and also recall we only have three patients with baseline. So it makes it challenging and this is I think an area that is certainly very interesting, it’s very exploratory and we are following up in our study 203 in the younger populations to really understand how to use the MRI. So right now honestly we don't have enough information to really know what to expect.
Unidentified Analyst
And then my other question was, Chris, I believe you described important elements of your package that the FDA might want at the upcoming meeting, what are those versus the things that are less important?
Chris Garabedian
So the three areas, again it's hard to know exactly what each member of the division is going to be focused on and looking for. But what we believe are going to be the important elements to discuss with them are the 168 week data, the dystrophy rescore and the natural history analysis on six minute walk because it's the area that puts our six minute walk data into the appropriate context. So those are the three areas that are going to largely be our focus for the second quarter discussion with the FDA prior to an NDA submission. Again the fourth biopsy, we will be preparing that, we would not have that likely in time for that FDA meeting and so we think that would only add to the data set. We think those three elements I just described would be sufficient to make sure there is alignment on what would go into NDA especially given they did not require the fourth biopsy data to be in the NDA.
Operator
The next question is from Heather Behanna with Wedbush Securities.
Heather Behanna
Just a quick question on the control arm for the confirmatory study for exon 51. If you could just talk about boys that are enrolled that are amenable to exon 45 and 53 and if they get moved on to the placebo controlled study for those drugs onto a treatment arm, will you have to enrol more boys or how would that work logistically?
Ed Kaye
The answer to your question, Heather, I think obviously we would not prohibit anyone from going into a treatment study, from really which was a nontreatment control arm, so we are anticipating that. And recall based on the timing we will have some valuable data and we know that even as little as nine months of data can be very beneficial. And so we will allow those patients to rollover, there's certainly going to be a delay in Europe, that won’t start until towards the end of the year. So I think we should be able to get an adequate data set and remember we are including many deletions and based on the natural history the expectation is that if your age and baseline six minute walk test distance, most of these deletions behave in a fairly similar fashion. So we’re fairly optimistic that we should have enough data to be able to make a comparison.
Chris Garabedian
Heather, remember we use a mix model repeated measure analysis and so those data points if we have four months or six months or eight months, does that suggest can still be used in predicting the decline of that untreated cohort, if they do end up rolling in a placebo it’s possible we could get those measurements in that placebo arm. And again we don't even know how many will be from the 45, 53 in that untreated cohort. So we will ensure that the statistical analysis will be sound regardless of any of those scenarios.
Heather Behanna
And then just a quick question on manufacturing, if you do get the green light and do file the NDA, will it require another CMC meeting with FDA or are you kind of all set on that front and know how you need to execute?
Chris Garabedian
Well, obviously there is a quality section, CMC section in the NDA and so that's going to provide all the latest information that we believe they would need to providing approval including approval of our manufacturing and commercial drug product. So that would be the expectation. Again the process that we’ve been using would be the same process we use for the commercial scale. So we’ve had good reproducibility multiple batches now and so we’re very confident that we have a quality drug product that would meet the specifications and we believe that upon approval those specs would be established in the NDA and we’d be given approval for commercial sale.
Operator
The next question is from Brian Klein with Stifel.
Brian Klein
Just one quick question. Do you plan to publicly present or report on the biopsy data prior to your NDA filing?
Chris Garabedian
Again we’re not guiding on that at this point. I think the first priority is to bring any data that we believe gives the FDA confident or understanding of our data set fully to enable the NDA. It's hard to predict at this point the timing of all of the fourth biopsy data and how concordant that will be with the timing of the NDA submission. So we will have to determine what we have where the discussions are with the FDA and again what we've said is that prior to any disclosure of data we would want to make sure that there was alignment with the FDA that was appropriate to disclose new data if we were in the midst of discussions with the FDA around an NDA or in the midst of an NDA submission and filing.
Brian Klein
Is it fair to assume that at some point you would plan to present or report on that data even if it's not prior to an NDA but that at some point would want to make that data public?
Chris Garabedian
Yes, of course – I mean we’ve always been focused on communicating our data set and being transparent. I think this is a delicate time in that we want to focus our energy on getting an acceptable NDA and working collaboratively with the FDA to do that in the most expeditious manner. And so of course if we had data that we wanted to disclose we would bring that to the FDA, discuss that and make sure that they were comfortable with our communication on any new data.
Operator
The next question is from Brian Skorney with Robert W. Baird.
Unidentified Analyst
This is Morgan on for Brian. I just had a quick question regarding the second quarter meeting. Just trying to get little more color on the timing. So Sandy mentioned that we’d be able to get an update on the R&D spend in the first quarter call following the FDA meeting. Does that mean that we’d be able to potentially get an update there too, because I am assuming the meeting would possibly be in April, is that right to think about?
Chris Garabedian
Well, I think what we want to do is provide an update to the best that we can on the next earnings call. It's hard to predict what information we would have at that point and at that moment. And we don't know if we’re going to have the meeting by then or any communication at that point by then or any substantive feedback at that point. But as we do we give update along the way and if we have more information to provide and more clarity on guidance for the rest of your spend we will do so. But look, if you look back last year we had a couple revisions to guidance because of kind of changing landscape of our efforts and timing of things and our prospects for NDA and the timing of that NDA. We’re in a similar situation now, we don't want to over commit, over promise but at the same time we’re trying to be very purposeful and transparent of our intent to have the information we need at some point in the second quarter. But at this point we don't have clarity, are not providing any guidance or speculation about guidance around that FDA communication.
Operator
The next question is from Adam Walsh with Canaccord Genuity.
Adam Walsh
Just to follow up on that one. So Sandy had mentioned that the guidance for R&D, there was something about having more visibility in early May about I believe the FDA meeting. I just am curious is the FDA meeting actually something you have on the calendar already or is this something that you’re going to plan to ask for?
Chris Garabedian
So it's not on the calendar as we sit here today. We expect it to happen in the second quarter. If we are also stating that we anticipate a mid year NDA we obviously wouldn't cut that too close to the timing. And so you can expect that that would have us enough time to at least process the final modules of NDA with that FDA feedback and guidance. So again that's the most clarity we can provide at this point and that's why we said second quarter. I think what Sandy was trying to convey is that on our next earnings call whatever new information it can help us understand and elucidate are spend for the rest the year, we will provide that. We may not have all that we want and need at that point but we will try to share as much as we know at that point.
Adam Walsh
And then just one follow-up, I know it's a very sensitive time around the FDA meeting and the upcoming filing and there was question asked earlier around the fourth biopsy release, of all the things that the FDA has asked you for, the MRI, natural history, additional safety data, the rescoring of dystrophin and so forth, are there any of those that that you can tell us whether or not you’ll be releasing information on, or what you said about the fourth biopsy having to meet with the FDA and get clarity and get comfortable with whether or not it would be appropriate to disclose, does that apply to all of the things that the FDA has asked for?
Chris Garabedian
Yeah. Thanks, yes it does apply to all the things the FDA has asked for. And the reason again just backing up to the April guidance we provided last year where the FDA outlined key pathways for accelerated approval. One, based on an intermediate clinical endpoints such as the six minute walk and the other based on dystrophin as a surrogate that would reasonably likely to predict clinical benefit. All of these data sets may support any one of those pathways or either of those pathways and we think that the totality of the data is the most important thing, how, does all of this fit together in the context of this disease and our drug effect. And so looking at any one particular piece of data in a vacuum probably won't tell the whole picture and that's why we’re focused on compiling everything that we can discussing the most important elements with the FDA and in determining what's appropriate and the potential disclosures prior to let’s say NDA briefing book with I’d the latest – that this would be out there. Again that's why we’re not providing any guidance on any of the data disclosures until we really sit down with the FDA.
Operator
The next question is from Yaron Werber with Citi.
Kumar Raja
Hi this is Kumar in for Yaron. Thank you for taking my questions. For the fourth biopsy, which muscle are you guys taking this biopsy from and how is different from the earlier biopsies? And also like when do you plan to start the 405 trials in the US?
Ed Kaye
It will be from the deltoid muscle which was the last muscle group that we obtained and we’re also, obviously we’re using controls for this and again the whole focus is I think what we've tried to do with the fourth biopsy, we’ve had a long-standing lengthy conversation with the FDA to make sure that they are comfortable with the whole process in the muscle and with the outcome measure, because we want to make sure that this precious tissue that the boys have donated that is used to the best, make sure the FDA gets the answers that they want. So I think we’re certainly making progress on that and is proceeding as planned.
Chris Garabedian
Let me just add. So one of the areas that we’re particularly interested in on the fourth biopsy is getting a good Western blots with the appropriate antibody DISC1, which has been the standard antibody. As we discussed previously of the original Western blots we’re done with the less sensitive antibody that’s not typically used, one of six, it is used for immunofluorescence not typically used for Western blots. So that's why we are looking to get an untreated control data so we can compare those westerns with untreated patient westerns since we don't have those baselines. And Kumar, I am sorry, you had a second question; what was the second question?
Kumar Raja
Just the 405, what are the plans for that in the US?
Chris Garabedian
That’s going to be rolled into what we described as our study 804, this was the master protocol where we were doing a placebo-controlled study with both exon 45 and 53. And as Ed described we already have a study dosing exon 53 in Europe but in the US we expect 53 and 45 to be enrolled in that study 804.
Operator
The next question is from Steve Brozak with WBB Securities.
Steve Brozak
Just one quick question. You made a really good point in terms of inclusion exclusion criterion. But the question rolls around what do you expect to happen from biological functional standpoints when the therapy is commercially available for boys that are, obviously, the younger, with the better 6-minute walk times. How do you think FDA is going to interpret that? Because obviously, they've got to look at the whole picture and I would want to get your thoughts on what do you think they will be looking at as far as that?
Chris Garabedian
Well, Steve, one of the reasons that we have rolled out three new eteplirsen studies was to show the safety of this drug in the broadest population possible from young patients, as young as four years of age to an advanced population as old as 21 years of age across these three studies. We are actually doing biopsies and will have a change from baseline on dystrophin in the younger patient population. So, I think our intent to get as much information across a broad swath of the DMD population will give the FDA what they need to enable the broadest label possible. Now, in terms of clinicians, what we expect and what we've heard feedback on is -- and we agreed -- that of course, the earlier you can initiate treatment, the better the potential outcomes might be over the long term. While they still have good muscle preserved, they are not in advanced stage of the disease and that the earlier you start with preserved muscle to restore dystrophin, that you might really change the course and trajectory of this disease in a pretty profound way. What we did in the clinical trial, to show a treatment effect in a small population, the only way that we could do that in a small population over a relatively short period of time is to really look for those patients that were on a decline. That we expect it to decline so that the treatment effect should show a separation as we showed. So I think that is where I think it would be wrong to assume that the benefit that would be conferred in this Phase 2b study is the best we could hope for. I think we would expect that the outcomes could be much more favorable if you start much earlier in the disease progression and over the long-term. Ed, do you want to comment?
Ed Kaye
I think that was the reason why the FDA was so interested in having this study of broad population. Because they are clearly aware that there would be a demand in the younger and in the older boys and to have some understanding of the safety and the potential outcomes. Obviously, until we do the studies we will not know if we have a better outcome in the younger boys. We have hypothesized that's the case because they have more muscle and they are in a healthier position. But that's why we are doing the study and we'll know that in the not too distant future.
Operator
We will take the final question, it comes from Tim Lugo with William Blair.
Unidentified Analyst
Hi this is Raj in for Tim. Just two quick ones. Given your remarks on the EMA meeting potentially a larger sample size, what are the plans for re-engaging them with the revised data set that’s being submitted to the FDA? And then when can expect an update on the non-DMD pipeline and are there still plans for a potential partnering opportunities?
Chris Garabedian
So as I mentioned earlier I think as we compile these new data for the FDA first priority is to discuss with the FDA. The strength and utility of that data will help guide us to win the right time to reengage EMA. Look, we have people who are engaging with European opinion leaders, we have a study in Europe, we expect the study heretofore to ultimately roll out to European sites. And so we’re very in touch with the European DMD clinician and advocacy community. And so as we generate these new data we want to make sure that we find the appropriate time to reengage them for potential conditional approval. Until we get through that step of compiling this data I think we’re not going to guide on when and the prospects for that next meeting to be. In terms of the other research pipeline, again I just highlighted in the prepared remarks that we have two research facilities, we’re continuing to do experiments. Look, we’ve made a tremendous amount of progress with our chemistry and new applications over the last year to 18 months. And we've highlighted some of those more promising programs, we’ve got a lot more that we’ve not disclosed and this year we’re going to be focusing on continuing to advance the most promising programs to identify lead candidates that we can start potentially preclinical development. Until we know what those most promising programs are and the timeline for that that will come in future disclosures. Again we think we have a very promising technology platform that has a best in class chemistry in the RNA therapeutic space, that has a lot of potential utility across a variety of therapeutic areas. And we’re absolutely open and to engage partners, to advance this technology across a number of therapeutic areas. Of course, a lot of partners want something more definitive further along clearly differentiated from any pipeline in those particular disease areas, and I think the more we accumulate and the more we show that we have a technology that really is differentiated and again we think we've done that to a degree in anti-virals and even in our DMD program, we expect that to enable partnerships down the road. So again we’re continuing to be open to partnerships across pharma and biotech on our technology. End of Q&A
Operator
We have come to the end of our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the call back to Chris Garabedian for closing remarks.
Chris Garabedian
Thank you operator. Again just want to highlight that we’ve achieved a tremendous amount of progress in executing across our clinical program. We’re moving very rapidly toward fulfilling the FDA requirements and are excited about meeting with them in the second quarter to enable an NDA submission by mid year. And this does remain our number one priority. We do know that and are acutely aware of the urgency of the Duchenne patients and families and are working tirelessly to meet the FDA's guidance for that successful NDA. We appreciate the many families, patient advocacy groups and healthcare providers for their support and continued efforts throughout this process and appreciate all of you for your interest in Sarepta. And thank you very much.
Operator
Thank you ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.