Plug Power Inc. (PLUG) Q1 2019 Earnings Call Transcript
Published at 2019-05-08 14:55:10
Ladies and gentlemen, greetings and welcome to Plug Power’s First Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this program is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Teal Vivacqua Hoyos. Thank you. You may begin.
Thank you. Good morning. And welcome to the Plug Power 2019 First Quarter Earnings Call. This call will include forward-looking statements. We intend these forward-looking statements to be covered by the Safe Harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. We believe that it is important to communicate our future expectations to investors. However, investors are cautioned not to unduly rely on forward-looking statements, because they involve risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from those discussed as a result of various factors, including but not limited to, risks and uncertainties discussed under item 1A Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2018, as well as other reports we file from time-to-time with the SEC. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the day in which the statements are made, and we do not undertake or intend to update any forward-looking statements after this call. At this point, I would like to turn the call over to Plug Power’s CEO, Andy Marsh.
Thank you for joining the first quarter conference call today. Today, we issued our first quarter Shareholder Letter, which provides details about our first quarter performance, as well as our outlook for the remainder of the year. Let me start by saying that we are disappointed with our growth billing numbers during the first quarter and we shift 65% more GenDrives units this quarter versus the first quarter 2018, gross billings were down. It is important to note that the first quarter gross billings declined because of the timing of closing of project financing deal. The deal closed six days post the close of the quarter and represented a significant portion of our revenue gap. A positive in our financials is the improvement of the EBITDA versus prior quarter. Even at a lower gross billing level, EBITDA improved by over $3 million, based primarily on lower service costs. Looking forward, we’re expecting gross billings of between $55 million to $60 million in the second quarter, reflecting over 100% sequential growth. The first half is in line with our previous guidance or approximately one-third of our revenue in the first half. Today, we are reiterating our guidance for the year $235 million to $240 million in gross, bookings positive EBITDA for the full year 2019 and four major announcements during the year, some of our announcements are tied directly to our ProGen line. In the first quarter, we launched our new 30 kilowatt ProGen hydrogen engine for e-mobility applications. The ProGen product line offers a pre-engineered modular and scalable architecture that makes it simple for use by customers. The offering reiterates Plug Power goal of playing a meaningful role in ongoing vehicle electrification on a global basis. Our modular ProGen hydrogen engine provides distinct advantage over battery electric vehicles, especially in applications which require high asset utilization, as well as long range. The [indiscernible] is starting to generate considerable customer interest globally. One of the four major announcements will be associated with our ProGen line, and will be announced in May post our customers' announcements. Contracts have already been executed for this program and we look forward to sharing more information in near future. Now, I’d like to open the line for questions.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we’ll now be conducting our Q&A session [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Eric Stein with Craig-Hallum. You are now live.
I’d love to ask more about the EV announcement that’s coming in May, but I suspect that that’s one I'll just have to wait on. But maybe just on the other three announcements that you had targeted. I believe in the past, you talked about distributor, industrial gas company and then third potentially being stationary. Just maybe, I know it’s been a couple of months. But how’s your view of those opportunities change or taken shape and your thoughts about all those in 2019.
Sure, and I maybe go ahead and - I think that where distributor is underestimating the partnership. I would expect that that announcement will be in June. And where we are in the programs and the activities, I’d met with them enormous times and there’s someone with a huge global footprint that would give us a reach that we never had in the past. So again, there we’re looking to close -- the first major deal with them and we're going to use that as the opportunity to make the announcement, so that’s proceeding. On the stationary power front, I actually think that will happen beginning of the third quarter. Again, I've had personal meetings with them and going through with their CEO, their program. The company is much larger than Plug Power, who has been active in the fuel cell space. And looking to position products more in the third world and really excited with that. I've been quite impressed with the activity. And there is lots of activities going on the hydrogen, and I think that third quarter, fourth quarter we will be making that announcement. I have a funnel of announcements, so I know I have poured my pocket and I hope to be announcing more. It’s a good time to be in the hydrogen industry. I had Sanjay Shrestha join us recently. And he told me that he was down at the recent AMR and there were over 1,000 people engaging in hydrogen discussions. And Sanjay pointed to me, it felt like solar in 2007 on the verge of reaching out, talking about going hydrogen conferences before and how many -- it felt like a family affair and it doesn’t feel that way till today. And I think that says a lot about the growth and opportunities in the industry.
And clearly next question here, I mean not one of the four major announcements but just wonders or wonder how it helps you the partnership, I guess what announcement in the last month with CHEM for the stationary piece. And I know it’s a little different, but it is targeting some of the same markets, third world. So just wondering how that helps you and how you see the opportunity with that partnership?
So we -- not only have we -- CHEM is really focused on in South Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa. And we have met with folks in the Energy Ministry in South Africa over the last week and a half in DC, not only were they well on up to date on the activity going on in CHEM, but outlined their support and their relationship with CHEM. And they see a large opportunity developing and brewing in South Africa. We think there will be -- there could be substantial revenue in the back half of the year associated with CHEM in that activity.
And maybe last one for me just book keeping or financial. It looks like R&D this quarter lowest level that we’ve seen in quite a while. Just curious is that a new run rate at some of your programs and the development has -- you’ve gotten, those are more mature, or is there something that’s more a blip and we should see it returning to previous levels?
Paul, I’ll let you answer. But I think primarily it's associated with probably less material use by the R&D association in product development. So I don’t expect the run rate for our R&D to decrease. Paul, do you have any comment?
I think that’s right, Andy. I think we haven’t seen it grow tremendously in the last year or so is there's ebbs and flows. But I think this is just a bit of a timing thing in the quarter. So I think next quarter we’ll be back to our normal run rate.
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Colin Rusch from Oppenheimer and Company. You are now live.
As you move out of the warehouse business into adjacent markets with material handling. Can you talk a little bit about the sales funnel and the pipeline and the cadence of moving that into billings and bookings?
We have a board meeting today and tomorrow, and we’re really just beginning the big push on this activity. And quite honestly, I am stunned by the level of activity that we’re beginning to see. I think there’s probably 10 or 12 programs we’re actually talking about at our board meeting today later in the day. The first announcement I think will be somewhere in the $35 million range. I look at the opportunity, but it actually could be -- as it grows, it could be significantly larger than that. The funnel is growing. I think part of the challenges, and I see the activity more in Europe, quite honestly in Asia than the U.S. I think in U.S., one of -- the FedEx program has been -- last week in DC, it was probably the star program about the progress that Plug has made. I think one of our challenges is that finding the right system integrator, and FedEx has actually made some of introductions to us to find someone that not only can build the product and our up time to that products and probably close to 99%, and we went through the harsh winters. But I think the real challenge is finding someone who FedEx has worked with who they can count on to provide the aftermarket service. One of our challenges is quite honestly Plug had to provided all the aftermarket service even for the vehicle itself, because the partner has been weak in that area.
And then just looking at the balance sheet with the new financing. Can you just help me understand how the restricted cash is going to trend and when that gets freed up? Going forward, it’s a pretty sizable amount. Would love to just understand how we start see that become available for you guys for operational uses?
So the bulk of it will get released if not majority of it in the next four years. Think about it like about a $20 million to $22 million run-rate rate of release. It’s parallel to the underlying project agreements that are associated with that. And the particular structure we have with the key PPA customer and the bank, it puts it on about four year amortization period. So that -- we got some legacy programs and we got some new ones and -- but the combination puts them on a blended four year amortization program. That money will go to effectively service the principle and interest on our debt facility. Our project lender generate basically looks at that as very interesting project investment opportunity, and they basically look at it as having back levered existing programs in place and financing that. But it’s about $20 million to $22 million this year is the way to think about it.
And I’ll take some questions around -- or collateralization and a few other things offline. Thanks so much guys.
Thank you [Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. You’re now live.
So you’re maintaining guidance for the year, however. So reading between the lines you seem very optimistic about the pipeline building, et cetera. So, this guidance is not dependent on any of the announcements potentially coming in the next few quarters. And once these announcements hit, do you expect to potentially raise guidance?
So, Amit, the answer to your question is our guidance is not based on these announcements. There maybe a little bit of the revenue associated with that. But I think if you go back historically, we’ve been really good about meeting our revenue guidance. There is no reason for us to -- this is -- represents 30% growth. If the opportunity comes and we think it make sense, we’ll do that. But I think it’d be premature at this time. And so I have been very cautious about revenue guidance and I’m not going to become overaggressive. And last year bumped to the low in the fourth quarter, because we saw what we’re going to do in the quarter and we had three quarters in our back pocket. As the time comes it make sense to bump it up we will. But I want to have -- there's ebbs and flows in the world, and I think that it doesn’t hurt to have something in our back pocket for a rainy day.
Just looking at the under recognized portion of GenDrive shift this quarter. Will inventory et cetera normalize going into say the second quarter and third quarters, or do you still expect to maintain certain high levels of inventory for the next few quarters?
I think the combination of the programs that rolled over, there was inventory finished goods associated with that, plus the build going on for the second quarter and the balance of the year is what really drove the investment in inventory in the first quarter. But I expect it to tailor off as we deliver those programs, and then that number will come down. And our goal long-term is to run it as nimbly as we can. So we'll continue to focus on driving that inventory down. And I expect by year end, it will be back in the normal range.
Just one last one for me. On the fueling sites, we are at around 72, I think currently. How many should we see maybe added-on on top of this by the end of the year?
I think in the 20 to 25 range.
So we should be touching almost a 100 by the end of the year?
I think that’s good. I have to take you down in that level, you’re absolutely right, Amit. I’ve been just focusing on 235 to 245 and EBITDA breakeven. But I think you’re right on the money.
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Osborn with Cowen and Company. You are now live.
Couple of questions on my end, Andy, maybe just following up with Amit’s question on the hydrogen sites, I thought it was flat. Were all your shipments to existing sites this quarter, no new distribution centers built out?
We have a couple that we're in the process, and I think there’s about three that roll into the second quarter. So they weren’t any new build, Jeff, but there were -- if you know what I mean, there’s whip.
And then is there a way to quantify the six day lag with the financing, what if that had been in place by March 31st. What that unit number would have been or revenue exposed to that, A; and then the B part of the question is. What happened with the prior facility? Are these better terms for your customer or was the prior facility expired and follow the dynamics there?
Well, first of all, on your question there was couple of programs and then collectively it was about $10 million. This was the biggest of it and it was the majority of it $7 plus million range. Some of the other ones closed on the hills of that as well. But in terms of really the driver, these overall have many factors that drive this, timing, construction, delivery, customer needs and what they got going on in their facilities. And then you got the banks and other players in the market. So it's just sometimes these are long lead cycles, three, four months and sometimes it's just hard to corral everything that happen at one time. So I don’t know that there’s necessarily one particular driver, but we continue to push and push to try and make those processes more nimble and more efficient. So we can drive them with the shorter lead times.
So to be straight forward, Paul, I think we started to work this in early March. And I think the bank administratively just because maybe of some of the other issues they had, had nothing to do with Plug. It just slowed down the internal processes. We actually gave it the normal lead time, Jeff. And we would have thought we would have been closed by the third week in March, it just didn’t happen.
But for the rest of the year for it to hit the delivery guidance or the revenue guidance. Is there any major new structures or financing partners that are needed for that delivery cadence?
No, we’re working with the same partners that we have and I think…
I think this quarter had a little bit of a hump, but we were -- we have a clear view of how it plays out for the remainder of the year.
A few other ones on my end if you don’t mind. On the fuel side, gross margin certainly have deteriorated. Can you just talk about what’s transpiring on the fuel segment? Is that also just the whip that you were referring to in the quarter that you had purchased a bunch of few and hadn’t even paid for it, because the sites weren’t built out and more of a timing issue? Or is there something structurally that’s going on the fuel delivery side?
No, I think there’s ebbs and flows. I think directionally our efficiencies continue to grow. And I think you’re just going to see some ebbs and flows as time goes on. We are investing in incremental equipment to drive some of that efficiency, so you see some non-cash depreciation starting to kick in, which might have affected some of the timing of it. And then you have timing of ebbs and flows with the customers in terms of usage and leverage on those existing assets. But even though it's down, I expect it will continue to trend overall in the right direction. And I think as the year goes on, you’ll see that continue to improve.
And then two other quick ones here, in the shareholder letter, there is reference to the cash flow guidance coming down due to receivables that you call out. Is that due to what Colin was asking in the $20 million to $22 million amortizing over four years and just the collection of that? I’m just trying to understand what the moving pieces are on receivables that would impact cash flows. Is that from the financing structure, or some new terms with your customers that was unclear?
I don’t think we’ve actually -- just to be honest, Jeff, we haven’t given operating cash flow guidance before. But this was an attempt to try and provide some color around that, particularly given some advice and help with the SEC in terms of how to talk about our results. And so, I think we're given some flavor around that. What I do think is that as we’ve seen that the timing of deployment from the collection of cash can play havoc on our quarter end numbers, and our goal and effort is, as it always has been, drive to close those things as timely as we can. And so that’s why we’re just saying that the timing of that in effect that the restricted cash doesn’t really play into it, because that doesn’t necessarily show up in our operating cash flow. So, with the new presentation that started about a year ago, it shows up in cash overall. And whether it gets released or doesn’t get released, it shows up in my cash position. So, that’s not necessarily the issue. But it’s really just a factor of timing between collections. And so I think that’s why we’re given the range that we are is if you put in the context with our EBITDAS numbers, just to give you some reference there.
And then the last one, if I could, Andy, for you just on the mobility side. Certainly, you highlighted FedEx and the delivery van market. Can you just talk about the level of enthusiasm you’re seeing? Is it all in that sub 150 range return to base to Class 4 to Class 6 market? Or are you seeing any development efforts on your end for Class 8? I was just curious on the long-haul side.
Sure, Jeff. So I am focused day on Class 4 to 6. But as our plans have rolling out offerings that would address Class A trucks, we do think there is a -- where the fuel cells makes sense, it make sense in heavy asset utilization applications where payloads are important. I know in these delivery vans, we have some data that shows the payload can be 50% to 60% more versus battery electric vehicles. We’re seeing a good deal of interest there. More globally and I would say domestically at the moment, our offering will continue to expand. Our metal plate stack using our own membranes is what we’ve been putting into these delivery van products. And we don’t see any issues how to scale it up. There's actually -- it’s actually not the stack, its items like compressors and other items that we spend the most time on for its product development to really have a simple package for people to use. So we do see interest there. And look like other folks, we are looking at a variety of different applications, trying to leverage scalable modules to make it as simpler for customers. And one highlight I actually started, and I'm going to say we actually started with the most difficult market first. I am amazed by how simple these Class 4 to 6 delivery vans are versus going into material handling equipment where its minus 40 degree F, or actually minus 30 degree F. Where it’s no shock and vibe on the use where you’re driving outside from cold to warm and you’re putting on as many hours as a car will see in a year. This is actually idea and the learning we’ve had all over the years has made this a much simpler experience than I ever had in material handling. But all that work all that value I can see translating easily into these other markets versus my previous experience.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have no further questions in queue at this time. I’d like to turn the floor back over to Andy Marsh for closing.
Sure. Just a reminder, our shareholder meeting will be held tomorrow at 10 o’clock at Goodwin Procter's office at 620 Eight Avenue in New York, so New York Time building. And during the shareholder meeting, I look forward to giving a presentation in detail, which provides our full year guidance, as well as our expected growth in material handling and also the exciting work we have ongoing in the electrification transportation. For those who could not attend in person, it is webcast and it’s going to be -- it’s available at www.plugpower.com and I hope you find the opportunity to stream the proceedings. So thank you everyone.
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