Piedmont Lithium Inc.

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Piedmont Lithium Inc. (PLL) Q2 2013 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2013-02-28 17:00:00
Operator
Welcome to Pall Corporation's conference call and webcast for the second quarter of fiscal 2013. Today's call is being recorded and simultaneously webcast. [Operator Instructions] We'd like to remind you that the company's second quarter press release is available at www.pall.com. Management's remarks this morning will include forward-looking statements. Please refer to Slide 2 or request a copy of the specific wording of this qualification of the company's remarks. Management also uses certain non-GAAP measures to assess the company's performance. Reconciliations of these measures to their GAAP counterparts are included in slides at the end of the presentation. At this time, I will turn the call over to Mr. Larry Kingsley, Pall Corporation's President and CEO. Please go ahead, sir. Lawrence D. Kingsley: Thank you, Christy. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I'm here today with Lisa McDermott, our CFO; and Brent Jones, VP of Finance. Our remarks this morning will be on a continuing operations basis. As you've seen in the release, we performed reasonably well, given the environment. Many end markets are soft. However, earnings were a little better than anticipated, driven primarily by improved operational execution. And just as importantly, our operational execution is also being recognized by our customers as they're beginning to see the benefits of our Pall Enterprise System. Clear prioritization and cross-functional focus on our people, process and technology initiatives are enabling us to accelerate new product introduction plans, drive productivity and operations and improve our overall cost structure. We believe that we have a long way to go but that we are making solid progress, and we have improved confidence that we can both grow and deliver consistent bottom line performance. As you'll remember from our Q1 call, we've characterized the macro environment as sloppy. We also discussed the relative strength of the end markets served by our Life Sciences segment, as well as the demand challenges facing many of the end markets served by our Industrial segment. Based on what we're seeing in the business and what we're hearing from our customers, not a lot has changed over the past quarter. Life Sciences and BioPharm especially continues to perform well. January, in particular, was a very strong month for both sales and orders. The macro trends underpinning the business remain very healthy. And importantly, our sales execution and market position continues to be strong. The Industrial business, on the other hand, is challenged with a difficult immediate term coupled with some mixed macro indicators for the remainder of our fiscal year. We serve a broad range of industrial end markets and OEM segments, as you know. And it's a rare that a majority of them are simultaneously soft. In particular, water, alternative energy, off-road equipment and the semiconductor markets are all down. And most of the other process technology end markets are weak, if also not down a bit. In addition, our industrial emerging country market demand is generally slow, with particular pressure on larger projects that require capital commitment. Last quarter, we discussed the impact of destocking versus end market performance, attributing about 1/3 of our demand weakness to destocking. I would stick with that proportion, if not more attributed to market demands. And our forecast reflects the similarly conservative demand pattern assumption. However, the combination of our segments continues to ensure reasonable total top line performance, and the business model leverages our integrated operations structure. On a related note, the emerging economies have been integral to our Industrial business model and Pall generally. We've taken a very close look at our Industrial strategy for China, which has been performing below our expectations and contributed to the negative Asian order performance in the quarter. As you'll recall, we've spoken externally about our inability to achieve price there and the high proportion of our Industrial business content that is systems versus consumables. And while changing course in China was not a top priority at the beginning of the fiscal year, we decided it was a good time to do so, given the general market softness there. Our team in China has tactically executed pretty well, but we need to shift to a business model that is consistent with our Pall Industrial global strategy and is best-in-class in every respect. We've recently made a number of structural and management changes in Asia that were necessary to reposition us in markets that will grow and be profitable. China today represents about 7% of sales. And while Life Sciences is meeting expectations, Industrial should also consistently grow in excess of the Chinese GDP rate. So we'll keep you posted. I'm going to dive into the specifics of the quarter. I'm on Slide 5. With regard to overall performance in the quarter, total sales were $662 million compared to $640 million last year. Excluding FX, sales were up 4% year-over-year. Overall gross margins declined 120 basis points to 51.6%. This reflects decreases in both businesses. SG&A, excluding FX, decreased about 1%, associated with savings generated by our structural cost improvement initiatives, net of the investments we are making. Due to the offsets of margin decline in SG&A savings, operating margin was flat year-over-year at 17%. The underlying tax rate in the quarter was 21.7% compared to 24.6% last year. And pro forma earnings per share in the quarter were $0.73, an increase of $0.06 compared to last year, bringing this increase, growth -- bridging, sorry, this increase, growth in operating profit contributed about $0.05, less $0.03 of transactional FX headwind to net to $0.02. The tax rate and share count reduction combined contributed about $0.05. Translational FX reduced EPS by about $0.01 for a combined FX headwind of $0.04. So on sales growth of 4%, EPS grew about 15%, excluding the impact of FX. I'm now on Slide 6. Life Sciences sales grew by almost 11% in the quarter, excluding FX, and Industrial declined by 2%. Consumables, that's the replaceable filters which comprised 86% of sales in the quarter, grew 12% in Life Sciences and decreased 6% in Industrial. Systems, which comprised 14% of total sales in the quarter, grew 13% overall, which reflects an increase of over 20% in Industrial, while Life Sciences sales were flat for Systems. Turning to 7, the key drivers for Life Science. First, let's look at consumables. BioPharm consumables sales grew 11% in the quarter on continued strength in the biotech sector, augmented by contribution from ForteBio, the acquisition we made last year. Consumables sales in Food & Beverage were up 5%. We saw strong growth in the Americas, particularly Latin America. But sales in Europe, our largest Food & Beverage market, were flat on weakness in wine and beer. And Medical consumables sales increased 21%. The flat systems sales in the quarter reflect an increase in Food & Beverage, which was offset by a reduction in BioPharm, and that's largely timing. Life Sciences orders increased 14% in the quarter with consumables growth also at 14%. Systems orders were driven by BioPharm, offset by weakness in Food & Bev. So moving to 8. Life Sciences gross margins declined 100 basis points to 58.4%. The year-over-year performance reflects about 50 basis points of FX headwind related to the deterioration of the euro and unfavorable mix but partly mitigated by favorable pricing. R&D expenditures increased about $3 million or 24%, excluding FX and 50 basis points as a percent of sales. We continue to increase our spend on product development, particularly related to our BioPharm instrumentation product lines. SG&A increased about 9% including FX, which was principally ForteBio associated costs and relative headcount allocation. As a percentage of sales, SG&A declined 50 basis points to 28.7%. So all-in, segment margin was 25.1%. Moving on to Slide 9 for Industrial. Consumables sales for the Process Technologies portion of Pall Industrial were down 12% in the quarter, reflecting broad weakness across most end markets, as I mentioned. Aerospace consumables sales rose 14%, driven by Commercial Aerospace, which grew about 31%, aided by a reduction in overdues though in the quarter. Microelectronics consumables sales declined 6% on a continued softness in that market. And moving on to the systems sales for Industrial. Systems sales increased 21%, driven by Fuels & Chemicals. Municipal Water was very weak, however, as customers continued to delay projects based on funding challenges. And looking at Industrial orders for the quarter, consumables were down about 9%. The impact to consumables' performance was pretty broad-based. Municipal Water, Military Aerospace and MicroE were all down double-digits. But again, Commercial Aerospace was a bright spot. It was up 7.5%. Industrial systems orders were down 11%, driven by weakness principally in the Energy & Water markets. And then on 10. Gross margin in the Industrial segment, as noted, decreased by 210 basis points year-over-year corresponding to 45%. The sequential decline from Q1 was 110 basis points. And as we indicated last quarter, that sequential decline reflects unfavorable mix and year-over-year comp, also reflects an unfavorable absorption issue based on the lower volume in the plants. SG&A declined about 10%, excluding FX. And the segment margin, all-in, therefore, improved by 30 basis points in the quarter. And then on Slide 11, we illustrate how the company performed on a regional basis. Beginning with the Americas, sales increased 12% x FX and 9% organically with strong growth in Life Sciences across the board basically and select growth in the Industrial markets. Again, weakness in Municipal Water most adversely impacted the region. Orders increased by 1% with strong growth in Life Sciences, driven by BioPharm. Industrial orders are down again with weakness in several end markets. And then in Europe, sales were up about 2%, excluding FX. Aerospace performed well, as I said, also augmented by very solid BioPharm growth. Orders in Europe were very strong in the quarter, up 8%, driven by global customer activity though, which just was transacted there in the region. And then finally, Asia, sales were down 1% due to Industrial weakness. And that again specifically is Microelectronics and the Machinery & Equipment markets. Life Sciences did grow pretty nicely at 6% in Asia. Orders were soft, down nearly 8% in the quarter, and this was largely due to MicroE and mature Asia but also Industrial process across the emerging country markets. And it's similar to my comments I already made regarding China. Onto cash flow and working capital, turning now to Slide 12. Operating cash flow in the first half was just $89 million compared to the $204 million last year. This reflects the impact associated with the settlement of several years' worth of U.S. tax audits and the cost associated with restructuring in the period. On a year-over-year basis, our inventory is essentially flat with finished goods down about $19 million and the combination of raw and WIP, up about the same. And this is again part of the strategy that we talked last quarter about as we reallocate to WIP so that we can more globally flexibly respond and reduce our dedicated finished goods inventory. Significant uses of cash during the first half included $303 million return to shareholders with dividends of $53 million and stock repurchases of $250 million and $42 million of capital spending. And then wrapping up the discussion regarding liquidity, our cash position stood at about $870 million as of January 31. And our cash position net of debt was about $160 million. This compares to a net debt position of $196 million as of July 31 of '12. So moving on to 13 and concluding. In the face of a reasonably challenging economic environment, I think the team delivered pretty solid shareholder return in the second quarter. This is largely due to continued operational execution, as well as the effect of the structural cost reductions that I spoke to. And as I've said before, we've reinvigorated our focus on innovation. And while we won't see that translate into revenue this year, I'm confident it will and we will continue to invest for growth. But we will also fund those investments through the disciplined and sustainable cost reductions that we are taking elsewhere. To update you on our outlook, as we think about the balance of the year versus our full year guidance, it's kind of a good news, bad news situation in terms of the impact of our operational improvements. The good news is we've seen a significant reduction in our past due shipments following our ERP transition, and it resulted in more revenue in the quarter than expected. However, as a result, we're netting the Q2 higher revenue out of the back half of the fiscal year. When you combine the Q2 better performance with what we're seeing in Industrial demand patterns and factor in specific customer input, our full year organic sales forecast is reasonably consistent with our prior comments. We expect overall revenue to grow in the flat to low single-digit range. Life Sciences will perform in the mid- to high single-digit growth range, and that's consistent with what we've said previously. However, we now expect Industrial will decline at a mid-single-digit rate versus the previously stated range of a low to mid-single-digit decline. And at current rates, FX will probably not impact us as adversely for the full year, as we had indicated last quarter. The euro has strengthened a bit. However, the yen has weakened. On an EPS basis, the combined changes in FX assumptions may yield $0.03 to $0.04 more than we had previously anticipated, but we also expect less full year EPS benefit from share repurchase. So with the various puts and takes to EPS, our view is unchanged, with full year pro forma EPS in the range of $2.95 to $3.15. And we think that we can certainly ensure that by way of continued strong execution. Finally, before we go to Q&A, I want to thank Lisa McDermott for her contribution to Pall. As you know, Lisa decided to move on to pursue other interests, so this is her last quarter earnings call as the CFO of the company. So she'll certainly remain a friend of Pall, and we've obviously benefited and will continue to benefit for quite some time to come from her contributions to the company. So Lisa, thank you very much.
Lisa McDermott
Thanks, Larry. Lawrence D. Kingsley: So Christy, we'll open the lines now for Q&A.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Hamzah Mazari with Crédit Suisse.
Hamzah Mazari
The first question, Larry, is just on what inning do you think we are in terms of the cost restructuring? And do you think the heavy lifting is halfway through on SG&A? Or is that done? And going forward, is it going to be more operational in nature when we look out to next year, calendar year '14? If you could just shed some color there. Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. It is. I think you actually summarized it pretty well. We're tracking nicely to the original plan, so we'll achieve our stated fiscal year of '13 savings that are certainly skewed more to SG&A. And then it inverts as we go forward and it becomes more operational savings as we improve our aptitude there in terms of how we're operating the business. And I think I feel pretty confident that we're going to track nicely to the total $100 million that we committed to. The question becomes then how does productivity, continuous improvement drive us forward? We've got plenty of opportunities. So relative to your what inning are we in question, to the specific commitment, we're tracking to fourth or fifth inning on the SG&A side. It only is second or third relative to the total commitment obviously, but I feel pretty confident about getting there. And then plenty of opportunity beyond that from a continuous improvement perspective.
Hamzah Mazari
That's helpful. And then any -- how are you thinking about the balance sheet currently? Do you think you guys need to lever up more? Or are you waiting to save dry powder for future acquisitions? How should we think about the strategy with regard to balance sheet and creating value from using that balance sheet? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. No, we definitely are underlevered, there's no question about it. And we will without a doubt take advantage of the great balance sheet that we've got. And we will certainly become much more acquisitive. We've talked with you before, as you know, about the fact that we desire to be strategically acquisitive. We have implemented all the right processes and the people. And we're now spending more of our senior team's time chasing some of these strategic acquisitions. And I think to put it in perspective, even though it's a bit of a messy M&A marketplace in this middle market that we operate still, if we had, had our thinking, our team and our processes in place for a longer period of time, we'd be acquiring now. As we ramp up, we're going to be very disciplined about what we go after, making sure that we like it and we like it financially and strategically. The reality is it's still going to take a little bit of time. But the balance sheet's far from anywhere close to optimal in terms of profile. I can quantify that for you, but you can do that yourself, too.
Hamzah Mazari
Sure, sure. And then just last one for me. On the FX, anything -- any processes you're putting in place to better hedge FX or maybe moving production to try to better naturally hedge some of the FX headwinds? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Well, again relative to my prepared remarks, the FX is moving all over the place right now. It depends on which currency pair you're speaking of. We have put cash flow-based hedges in place. We wouldn't be thinking about anything more exotic than that. We operationally are thinking about how to make sure that more of our cost structure in Europe is euro-denominated or in a currency that more closely tracks the euro than the pound has historically. And that requires some changes both in terms of material and labor structurally to get there. And it'd be a little early to disclose what our thinking is there, but it's moving along pretty nicely.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Richard Eastman with Robert W. Baird. Richard C. Eastman: Larry, could you quantify the catch-up shipments in the quarter? I presume they occurred in the Aerospace business as well as in that Medical business. But could you just quantify approximately a dollar number? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. Sure, Rick. The number in terms of absolute past due reduction from a customer perspective is in the kind of $12 million range. So versus some of the modeling that was out there, obviously we shipped a bit more than just what that customer base past due number would indicate. You're right, there was a pretty good chunk that was in Aerospace. It was $5 million or $6 million. And then it's distributed pretty broadly otherwise. Richard C. Eastman: Okay. And then just one additional question. When you're looking at your systems orders in the quarter, I think relative to core local currency sales guidance from the past -- or for the fiscal year '13, the thought process was that consumables could be up maybe mid-single-digits and that equipment might be flattish. Again, when you look at the orders on the systems side, will we be able to kind of generate a flattish systems number? Or is there some hesitancy to be able to do that with the bookings? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Well, there is a little bit of hesitancy, and that's factored into the comments that I just made and also the comments I made specifically with regard to China. It's not necessarily by any means anywhere close to all China. We've talked historically about the fact that the business model we aspire to is one where we're installing systems that are the path toward the annuity stream associated with consumables. And you can't always ensure that, but you need to design it such that, that's the opportunity. What we don't want to do is install systems for the sake of systems. And we've talked historically about that change in thinking of strategy probably impacting sales by 1 point or so, could be a bit more than that. The other thing I would tell you though, it's not so much us, it's just the marketplace. And that is you can look at it by market segment and by geography, and it gets pretty granular pretty quick, Rick. But water being the most exaggerated example, where that's fundamentally a systems business, and it's a funding challenge right now. People are not willing to or can't come up with against existing execution plans, the funding for some of those systems. But we're seeing across the board, where big capital decisions are necessary, at a minimal, we're seeing delays. And I would tell you that's a global phenomenon, not just a North American one. And let me revert back to your prior question, Rick. If you were trying to solve for why Medical was up as much as it was, maybe that was another kind of element to your question. The Medical business did ship, if you will, ahead of our assumptions a bit in the quarter, not so much as a past due reduction or backlog reduction focus, but as a means to help the guys at Haemonetics get to self-sustaining. So it's very healthy blood media shipments that are within both the sales and order numbers to get Haemonetics up to the point of self-sustaining. Richard C. Eastman: And that again is a pull-forward from the second half presumably? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes, it is. It's from a rate. Yes.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Brian Drab with William Blair.
Brian Drab
Just a couple questions. The incremental operating margin in the quarter was about 23%, I guess, 20% depending on whether you look at it year-over-year or sequentially. But either way, a little below what you had talked about in the -- as either the level that we should see currently, Larry, and well below what we are going to expect after we get some of the structural cost improvements in place. But could you talk a little bit about that? What were the specific reasons for that in the quarter? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes, sure. Basically, it's a couple components. It's the absorption impact within gross margin that impacted us to some degree. And that falls within what I think I've described historically about. When you're in a flattish or lower-growth organic environment, you've got to get beyond the natural inflation rate to get to the point where your incremental margins model to that 35-plus percent kind of profile. So I would assign some of it to that. We also saw SG&A increase quarter-to-quarter as a function of the typical annual cadence of when merit pays, when board comp pays and things like that. And I think we talked about that last quarter, didn't we, Lisa?
Brian Drab
You did. You did. Lawrence D. Kingsley: And then the other good news piece is R&D investment which is, as we talked about in my prepared remarks, is up significantly by design. So yes, I think it's a bit of a mea culpa. But I would agree, we're not printing incremental margins to the degree we need to right now, some of it by design, some of it by way of just the particular quarter situation.
Brian Drab
Okay. And then regarding Industrial orders, could you talk about how Industrial orders were sequentially? Because I'm looking at the first quarter press release and slide presentation, so Industrial orders at that time were down a little more than 13%. Now they're down a little less than 10%. Have things improved a little bit sequentially? How did they move sequentially? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. Really again, back to my comments to Rick, you've got to look at it to have a meaningful conversation by individual market or application within the segments and by geography to try and draw some model assumptions out of it. But the net-net is the organic rate progression, as thought about from a sequential perspective, is not the demonstrably different. Slightly better but still fairly murky visibility. And I'd say that similar to a lot of other folks, who are making in the way of comments right now, it may improve. As inventory flushes, we may see a return to better order rates and particularly that Process Technologies subsegment of the PI segment. But I would not include that on my back half of our fiscal year forecast at this point, which is again what we said in our prepared remarks.
Brian Drab
Okay. And then if I could sneak in one more. I think that if I heard you correctly, you said that repurchase is not going to have as large an effect on EPS for the year as originally expected. But your repurchase in terms of dollars spent is on schedule, I would think, or even a little ahead of schedule. Is it just the share price ticking up that's creating that discrepancy? Lawrence D. Kingsley: No. The assumption's a little bit less than what we talked about at the beginning of the fiscal year in terms of allocation. Also, there's a little bit of impact associated with the kind of average price calculation.
Brian Drab
Okay. So can you just remind me, for the full year, we're expecting to spend $400 million? Is that the number? Lawrence D. Kingsley: $300 million.
Brian Drab
$300 million. Lawrence D. Kingsley: And yes, we're probably in the $250-ish million assumption range now.
Brian Drab
And you were just expecting to have executed that full $300 million at this point in the original expectation? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Essentially, yes.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas: Can you give us a general description of what's going on in the Microelectronics market? That is, are there customers that are winning and customers that are losing? Or is the overall market just trending down? What's happening with the weakness there? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Well, it's mainly a function of what's going on in the PC unit volume production. Our customers are primarily fabs, but we're also in the memory and storage world and we're also onboard electronics, consumer electronic products to a lesser degree. And it's not improving is the bottom line, Jeff. We do think that it is bottomed out and that it's not going to get a lot worse. But fab utilization rates are relatively low. And it's not a matter of whose fab has got that much more production right now. We have talked in prior quarters a bit about relative market or customer position in the individual fabs. But that's less of an issue right now frankly versus just overall capacity utilization. There were a couple bright spots within our Microelectronics group during the quarter. Our photolithography applications are performing very nicely. We're very strong. And a couple other smaller areas of application, where we think we've taken some share. But generally speaking, we have a pretty good bead on this now globally. I'd say that it's not going to be a subsegment that's going to perform for the rest of the fiscal year. I think you'd have to then correlate my comments to the global big players and how they view utilization rates to either prove or disprove what you think. But it's pretty consistently stated right now across the board. Jeffrey J. Zekauskas: And then lastly, can you talk about the sort of the industrial climate in the United States? You spent some time talking about the municipal markets and how they were difficult. But in general, sometimes we look at macroeconomic data, it seems that industrial orders are strengthening. But when we look at yours, it seems that the tone is decidedly softer. Is that a correct characterization? And what do you see as the sources of the softness, excluding the municipal market? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes, sure. Municipal market, I think we all understand it is what it is. And we will deal with it, as best put. As far as the other Industrial segments, again it's a broad range. And without going through it in microscopic detail, we are seeing decent global Fuels & Chemicals project activity but less in the U.S., more outside of the U.S. We are seeing some of the bigger OEM equipment segments begin to at least talk about expectations of demand pattern improvement but still flushing inventory out in various forms of WIP within their own books today. And that's a U.S. and a global statement. I've mentioned the alternative energy segment, where things are very slow, and that's both a U.S. and global statement with respect to areas like wind turbine. We do not have a existing position or a position historically, frankly, in Power Generation to a large degree. And so there have been others talking about strong gas turbine unit volume sales for the last couple quarters. But with questions, frankly, looking forward, we don't participate in that. So we just haven't seen that relative growth opportunity. And if you look at the implant machinery, which is broad set of applications, where it's essentially liquids-based filtration, machine tool applications in production. It's a bit of a mixed bag. There's some good, but there's some that aren't so great. So again, I do think that the macro indicators for the U.S. or North America specifically will continue to improve. They will continue to flush inventory out of the system in some of the segments that still have it. And we'll see the response accordingly and the opportunities accordingly. But as we look at current order rates and kind of the book and turn time associated with what's typically in our Industrial business pattern, we're taking a fairly conservative view, I think, but appropriately so for the rest of the fiscal year. And that's again a North America comment, as well as a global comment.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Jon Wood with Jefferies.
Jon Davis Wood
Would like to delve into the cash flow a little bit. And specifically, can you call out the impact of the discrete tax items and restructuring items in the quarter? I think the last call, we were talking about $140 million to $160 million or so in kind of those discrete tax items. Is that still the assumption for the year? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. The short answer is yes. And to give you a sense for it, so it is the 2 elements of the tax payments associated with the audits, and then the payments associated with the blood divestiture. Year-to-date, and Brent or Lisa, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we're talking about $80-ish million, $83 million associated with tax. And that would support the combination of those 2. So that's first half. And then there was another $20 million or so associated with the cash portion, the cash outlay associated with the restructuring expenses for the first half. So do that math, that's, what, $105 million. And we know we have about $35 million in the back half associated with the tax payments, and then probably the remainder of that's going to be restructuring-associated.
Lisa McDermott
Yes.
Jon Davis Wood
All right. That's great. And then Larry, back to the -- so the share repurchase assumption has gone from $300 million to $250 million for the year, correct? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes.
Jon Davis Wood
And just vis-à-vis your commentary about the balance sheet being underlevered, just describe what's the issue there. Is it accessibility of the cash being foreign-denominated? Or is the acquisition pipeline that much better? Just give us some context on your balance sheet commentary related to the decision to take down the share repurchase allocation by a touch or so. Lawrence D. Kingsley: Well, there's a big-picture answer, and then there's a next 5 months answer. Big-picture answer is we want to use the balance sheet to acquire. Our intention is to grow. The board and management are aligned that, that's our first priority in terms of capital allocation. And we think that we've executed a pretty good component in terms of share repurchases associated with the year. I mean, could we spend the remaining $50 million? Sure. But we're just trying to give you a sense for how we're thinking about how we're modeling things as a year-to-date and a full year assumptive basis. Relative to the other components of your question, where the cash is. Yes, most of it's foreign-denominated, but that's not inhibiting acquisition necessarily. As a matter of fact, a good chunk of our acquisition are in the places where we have direct access to that cash without any penalties. So it really comes down to ramping up the process associated with acquisition. And we're willing, that's again board and management, to be appropriately patient to get at the best acquisition set. And we will definitely do so.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Derik De Bruin with Bank of America.
Rafael Tejada
It's Rafael in for Derik. The first question I had was just on a comment made on the prepared remarks basically discussing some new product introductions. And Larry, I was just hoping that you could provide us with a little more color on the type of products that you're looking to introduce in 2013. Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. Well, many of them will be introduced in 2014, more than 2013. We have 3 peak areas of focus right now. We have invested in talent associated with new development around our core media membrane technology that'll be applied across several segments, making very nice progress there and believe that we'll be coming to market with some of, if not, the best in unchallenged technology out there to serve some of the more demanding applications for both PI and Life Sciences going forward. Two, improving device design, so better filtration design. That means being able to make devices that have better flow dynamic and characteristics associated with them and that are able to be produced at better cost. So continually enabling us to productize stuff at the best possible cost and to achieve the best possible performance. And that is a value-added, value engineering exercise that we still need to continue to execute in both R&D and in manufacturing going forward. And then we are also -- and I spoke to this in the prepared remarks, we're investing as a function of our ForteBio acquisition in the way of BioPharm, principally BioPharm-associated instrumentation. And we've given the guys out at ForteBio responsibility for a broader set of products beyond what they came in with, in other words, what we acquired, because they will become our instrumentation center of excellence on a very broad basis. And they're doing a super job both defining what are good acquisitive opportunities but also leading organically how we bring new products to market in that segment. So those 3, and then a couple others that are yet to be talked about, will come as we move into '14. But rest assured, I feel very good about the fact that they will allow us share gain opportunity irrespective of the strength of the markets we serve.
Rafael Tejada
Just also I had a follow-up on, I guess, on the difficult funding environment that's been discussed throughout the call. Basically I wanted to get a little more detail on the potential impact that the U.S. sequester could have. And is that something that's already baked into current guidance? Lawrence D. Kingsley: It's in is the short answer. And it honestly doesn't really impact us all that much, certainly not in the short term. The programs that we're on that are -- would be Military Aerospace, by and large, are already funded, and they're ones that we're executing against and they're an aftermarket, in many cases. So it's not a matter of impacting us. Long term, depending on where things go, that could have some impact.
Rafael Tejada
And just one more question. Also discuss some of the currency fluctuations. Just wanted to get a little more insight on the exposure to the yen for the company. Lawrence D. Kingsley: Sure. So we have roughly 10% of our sales are yen-denominated. And of those sales, some of the cost of goods is dollar-borne based. So the yen has moved about, what, 13% down relative to the dollar. And it's again a translation and transaction component impact. But the yen has moved a little bit back over the last couple days, I think. So we'll see how it goes. For now, you can do the math, around 10% of sales, roughly a 13% degradation when we were doing our modeling. And I don't know off the top of my head how much of our cost of goods is dollar-denominated to have that added impact associated with the transactional piece. But it adds to the challenge a little bit.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Jon Groberg with Macquarie. Jonathan P. Groberg: So Larry, can you talk a little bit more about China? You mentioned this kind of shifting course to be more consistent with the global Industrial. I think you mentioned trying to make sure that the systems that you sold have the opportunity to sell consumables. But can you maybe, as you did the due diligence, as to what was going on there on the Industrial side, why it maybe wasn't working, what you found, what changes you've made and kind of how long you think it will take to improve things? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Yes. And let me step back, give you a bigger picture view of things. So we actually had similar concerns, we didn't really talk too much about them, with respect to India. And we're on to the next phase and very successfully so in India, a smaller market for us. We have spent a fair amount of time in Asia, and I have personally, since being with the company. I was just over there a couple weeks ago. And we knew that -- or I would kind of classify our approach in China specifically as more opportunistic than strategic. We have the stated strategy that I mentioned just a couple questions ago around making sure the systems lead to consumables. And in China, I don't think that we were disciplined strategically on how we were executing that. I think the team on the ground in China was running fast and furious to get orders, and they were. And we were generating decent growth. If you go back 8 or 9 years, you look at a CAGR of 12% or 13% top line. We have talked historically about the fact that we have not achieved the margins that we would like to on that kind of growth and that kind of business profile at this point, given its size. I would say the added catalyst to have us think about this now is more a function of the markets that we have stronger positions in, some of which have turned south harder than others, such as steel production. Some of the big equipments spaces that we like some of how we're positioned but not all of how we're positioned. And that we need to think -- and this is a home office issue as much as it is a local team issue. But we need think about strategy and what we want for the future in China, which really comes down to which markets do we want to be positioned in, what's the best channel structure to get there, who are all the right people to get it done and how do we make sure that we take the benefit of the learnings of what we've done successfully, not just in India but globally and go after it very aggressively. And again, my comments are entirely within the context of Pall Industrial because we like our profile and we like our strategy and I like our model quite a bit on the Life Sciences side. And so what we did is as a function of all that thinking is we made some changes. We've got some dynamic new leadership in place. We've got some folks who I feel very good about in their ability to address all of what I just spoke to. But it takes a little bit of time to shift gears. We're talking about a little less emphasis on systems, more emphasis on those subsegments that afford us the annuity opportunity, a disciplined approach to get there, good value selling skills to execute, all the right products. And then really what I want to move to is a more self-sustaining model in China, where we can define product need in China, we can develop certain products in China and we can have direct linkage between our good operations team there and the sales team to get it done. So we will continue to perform pretty well in the meantime, but what we want to aspire to here is, as I said, is a growth rate that's consistently double-digit and it's yielding the right bottom line results. Jonathan P. Groberg: And just a quick reminder, how much of the Pall Industrial does China make up in terms of revenues? Or how big of a business is it? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Well, it's, all-in, for the company, it's $7 million. For Industrial, Brent, it's...
Lisa McDermott
It's about $135 million, Pall Industrial. R. Brent Jones: Yes, 2/3. Jonathan P. Groberg: Okay. And then if going back to kind of the -- it sounds like a little bit of a shift from buybacks here to acquisition. I know it's something you've been very transparent about. But given the slowdown on buybacks that you mentioned, moving towards acquisitions, what should we expect just in terms of size of the first deal that you guys go after? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Not big. Most of them that we like are, they're in the $20 million to $80 million in revenue size. And we certainly like some bigger ones than that. But we need to exercise our integration skills a bit before we make those bigger bets. Jonathan P. Groberg: And Larry, would you -- just out of curiosity, as you're looking at those businesses, I know in the past, you talked about doing these bolt-ons and growing. But would you rule out anything a bit more transformative over the next couple of years for Pall in terms of the size of deal that you might do? Lawrence D. Kingsley: I think it's less likely. But if a really sharp deal -- and I don't like the term transformative per se, but a really sharp deal that availed a much larger addressable market became available, we would certainly, as a board and management team, take a look at it. Jonathan P. Groberg: Okay. And if I can just sneak one last one in. How has ForteBio done? You mentioned that you're giving them more responsibility. So maybe kind of on a year-over-year basis, how did they do? Lawrence D. Kingsley: It's doing well. It is growing nicely. And I'm not going to get into disclosing too much, but it's well into the double-digit organic. It's accretive. It's executing its product plans. And it is becoming that foothold for us to do more around it organically and acquisitively.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of David Rose with Wedbush. David L. Rose: Most of my questions have been answered, so I just have quick follow-ups. On the systems sales component, I mean, you've talked about product rationalization. You mentioned the 1% impact, about 1 point impact from systems sales being eliminated. Is that correct? And then what... Lawrence D. Kingsley: Talked about it historically, yes. David L. Rose: Okay. So what -- in terms of the product rationalization during the quarter, what would your estimate be in the total impact of sales? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Any number I'd give you would be wrong, I think. More of the current impact is as a function of the environment. And again, what I spoke to in the way of the concerns that many have right now with applying big capital to projects and just the stall. It's more stall than anything else. I think you have to look at our systems performance over a long period of time. If you take a look at, for instance, the way we described just on the Life Sciences side of the house, for example, the flip flop between Food & Bev and BioPharm between sales and orders in the quarter. And if you were to draw a trend line or a conclusion off either sales or orders, you'd be wrong. You could be kind of wrong in a big way. You have to think about the total performance year-on-year. So I'm going to ask you a favor and reserve on that until, I think, we're better -- we're beyond this fiscal year and we've got a better view of where we are in terms of which systems we continue to prune out. David L. Rose: Okay. So then the -- going to the cash flow statement, the disposition of assets, was that part of continuing or discontinuing operations, the $6 million?
Lisa McDermott
I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question? David L. Rose: Did I calculate right that you disposed of about $6 million in assets during the quarter? And I was wondering if there was some revenue component tied into that. Lawrence D. Kingsley: No.
Lisa McDermott
No. David L. Rose: Okay. All right. And then lastly is -- maybe this is just a stretch, but do you have any sense on what the new products in terms of the R&D spend will do for top line growth next year? I'm sure you have some... Lawrence D. Kingsley: No.
Operator
Your final question comes from the line of Tracy Marshbanks with First Analysis.
Steven Schwartz
It's Steve Schwartz sitting in for Tracy today. Larry, with respect to Life Sciences, on Slide 8, you note that you had unfavorable mix but pricing was up. Can you talk a little bit about what's going on with mix there, and particularly with respect to pricing and what's driving that? Lawrence D. Kingsley: I'm looking at Slide 8 to make sure I'm...
Lisa McDermott
While Larry is looking, and hopefully you can hear me okay, with respect to mix, we saw this 20-plus percent growth in Medical. And as Larry mentioned, it's mainly OEM, including the blood media sales for the supply agreements that we had, that has relatively, compared to our 50-ish percent gross margin, much, much lower gross margin. Plus we had decent growth in Food & Beverage, which also comparatively speaking to the Life Sciences gross margin, has lower gross margin. So that's the mix comment. Larry, if you want to talk to price or I'll take price as well? Lawrence D. Kingsley: No. We've got some price in the quarter, a little less than our stated goals that we've spoken about, where depending on the subsegment where the range is about 50 bps to as much as 150 bps. And that would be applicable to the Life Sciences as well as total company.
Steven Schwartz
Okay. No, that's very helpful. And then just as my follow-up, on your slide for the regional performance, you're showing that EU orders are up nicely year-over-year. And perhaps a little bit surprising, I think, given the economic environment there. But do you see a sustained turnaround? Because I think that certainly portends that your business is going to get stronger going forward. No? Lawrence D. Kingsley: Two specific issues there. I wouldn't characterize our view of Industrial in Europe as radically different than I've heard from others. I do think we've taken a little bit of share in Europe on the Industrial side. But really what's driving that organic orders number is, one, the fact we've talked before, our BioPharm business is a global business, but many of the big global players are European. And so you always see generally kind of more orders transacted in Europe than our ultimately end market demand associated with Europe. Specific to the quarter, there were a couple big BioPharm new customers that we won that are big global customers that we saw initial orders out of Europe, but frankly the demand will be Asian. It'll be even projects that are constructed physically for plants in Asia to serve Asia. But the transaction from a Pall books and their customer books' perspective is in Europe.
Steven Schwartz
Yes. Okay. So for export. No, that's helpful, did not think of it that way exactly.
Operator
That does conclude our question-and-answer session for today. It is now my pleasure to hand the program back over to Mr. Kingsley for any further comments or closing remarks. Lawrence D. Kingsley: I just want to thank you, all, for joining and your interest in the company. And again, I want to thank Lisa for her outstanding contribution to the company. So we'll look forward to talking to you through the course of the quarter and at the end of the quarter. Thanks very much.
Operator
This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.