Nasdaq, Inc. (NDAQ) Q1 2010 Earnings Call Transcript
Published at 2010-04-30 16:40:14
Edward Knight - Chief Regulatory Officer, Executive Vice President and General Counsel Vince Palmiere - Vice President of Investor Relations & Nasdaq Corporate Finance and Head of Nasdaq Activities Robert Greifeld - Chief Executive Officer, Staff Director, Member of Executive Committee and Member of Finance Committee Adena Friedman - Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President of Corporate Strategy
Matthew Heinz - Jefferies & Company Niamh Alexander - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods David Grossman - Thomas Weisel Partners Equity Research Robert Napoli - Piper Jaffray Companies Alex Kramm - UBS Investment Bank Celeste Brown - Morgan Stanley Howard Chen - Crédit Suisse First Boston, Inc. Michael Carrier - Deutsche Bank AG Richard Repetto - Sandler O`Neill Edward Ditmire - Macquarie Research Roger Freeman - Barclays Capital Daniel Harris - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the NASDAQ OMX First Quarter 2010 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Vince Palmiere, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our First Quarter 2010 Earning Results. Joining me is Bob Greifeld, our Chief Executive Officer; Adena Friedman, our Chief Financial Officer; Ed Knight, our General Counsel. Following the prepared remarks, we'll open up the line for Q&A. You can access the results, press release and presentation on NASDAQ OMX's Investor Relations website at www.nasdaqomx.com. We intend to use our website as a means of disclosing material non-public information and for complying with the disclosure, obligations under SEC Regulation FD. And these disclosure will be included under the Events and Presentation section of the site. And before I turn the call over to Bob, I would like to remind you that certain statements in the prepared presentation and during subsequent Q&A period may relate to future events and expectations. And as such, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The actual results may differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements. Information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements is contained in our press release and in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. And with that, I'll turn it over to Bob.
Well, thank you, Vince, and thank you, everyone for joining us this morning to discuss our first quarter 2010 results. I'll begin my remarks by spending a few minutes highlighting some key accomplishments, then update you on the progress of our initiatives. Adena will then walk you through the financials. This morning, we reported net income of $61 million, or $0.28 per diluted share. On a non-GAAP basis, we reported net income of $92 million, or $0.43 per diluted share, with net revenue coming in at $360 million and expenses at $201 million. Historically, our business has been a dynamic one and the first quarter of 2010 was no different. During the period, we launched new technology in new markets, made investments in new ventures and continue to innovate within our existing businesses. When evaluating developments of the past quarter, the key takeaway is that the core fundamentals of our businesses remain strong. In fact, this strength has been demonstrated even more so during the month of April. We have witnessed for the first time in several years the first broad-based resurgence of all of our businesses in April. When we look at the specific results for the first quarter of 2010, it is most important to note, that revenues from our Transaction businesses were up $5 million when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009. This, despite flat industry volumes in U.S. equities. Our market share of U.S. trading remain stable with NASDAQ and BX combine share coming in at nearly 24% in the first quarter of 2010, down slightly from 25% in the first quarter of 2009, but on par with levels realized in the fourth quarter. Driving an increase in U.S. Cash Trading revenue is an improving capture rate, which has accelerated in the second quarter following adjustments to fees we implemented on April 1. Adena will have more to say about the impact of this fee adjustments in her remarks. In our U.S. Options business, we witnessed growing market share with total share coming in at nearly 24% in the first quarter of 2010, up from 20% in the first quarter 2009. This growth in share speaks to the success of the innovative maker-taker pricing model that we implemented at PHLX earlier this year. Following the introduction of this new fee structure, our share in the 51 contracts included in the program grew from approximately 10% to more than 25%, demonstrating the popularity of the service we're providing. In the Nordics, following the introduction of central clearing and the INET trading platform, Cash Equity Trading volume continues to improve with trade volume growing 30%, while value traded grew 19% when compared to volumes realized in the first quarter of 2009. Volumes in the Nordic derivatives market are up across the board when compared to the first quarter of 2009. Equity derivative volume was up 23% driven by strength and index futures and options trading, as well as the impact of exiting the EDX venture. Clearing fixed income volume was also up dramatically growing 37% from the prior-year period. In our Commodities businesses, clearing energy contracts grew 15% from levels realized in the first quarter 2009. Turning to Issuer Services. NASDAQ OMX welcome 47 new listings during the quarter, up from 20 in the first quarter of last year. Included in new listing were 18 IPOs, quite favorable when you consider that we didn't have any during the first quarter of 2009. Corporate Services continues to perform well, reporting revenues of $17 million. Although, it appears the revenues only grew $1 million when compared to the first quarter of last year, masking the true growth is $3 million of Carpenter Moore revenue that was included in the first quarter of 2009 results. Recall that we sold this business during the fourth quarter of last year, so if you exclude Carpenter Moore revenues, Corporate Services revenues grew more than 30% from year-ago levels leading this growth is a 40% increase in customers for shareholder identification services. The Global Index Group began 2010 with a strong start, with sponsors launching six NASDAQ OMX ETFs [exchange traded funds] during the first quarter, including the first inverse and leveraged products based on the PHLX Semiconductor Index. And in China, the first foreign linked to NASDAQ 100 was launched in March. There were, however, two areas that had challenges during the quarter. They were data products and Market Technology. In data products, we were negatively impacted by the vagaries of the SEC revenue sharing formula under which value traded was a part in how revenue is shared. During the first quarter of 2010, BX increased its share of trading in low-priced stocks, and since these stocks represent relatively low value traded, the corresponding contribution to our market share under the formula declined, and therefore, our share of revenue decline. In Market Technology, although revenues declined from the fourth quarter levels, the fundamentals of this business remain very, very strong. Both order intake in order value increased in the first quarter of 2010, as order intake grew more than fivefold, and order value improved nearly 50% from year-ago levels. We have nearly $500 million of committed order value on our books. Truly highlighting the long-term strength of this business. Headlining our contract wins this quarter was the announcement by the Australian Securities Exchange that it will adopt the Genium INET platform. By replacing their current integrated equities and derivatives trading platform with a new system, Australia will recognize significantly fee and transaction capacity advantages. This new platform will also allow them to retain the core functionality of the existing system, including the ability to trade equities and derivatives on one platform. Now let me touch on the status of some of our initiatives. AT IDCG [International Derivatives Clearing Group], our interest rate swap clearing business, we continue to make progress. The foresight of our investment is proving out as the financial reform debate is reaching a climax. The legislative expectations dovetailed quite nicely with the product offering that IDCG has built. While all eyes are on Washington watching developments around the financial reform legislation, we had been very busy moving our business forward. We currently have a working product that is in the final stages of customer testing, and we continue to attract new participants. Having recently announced that Newedge, a global leader in multi-asset brokerage and clearing is joining IDCG. IDCG's clearing house is expected to recognize new members, in particular, a large clearing firm within the next several weeks. We are very pleased to have a working product proved out by our clients for their testing and we expect to be a vibrant competitor in this space in the months to come. We continue to expand our presence in the over-the-counter commodities in clearing of purchases of the business of North American Energy Credit and Clearing Corp., a Chicago-based clearing house for the over-the-counter power and gas markets. Rebranded NASDAQ OMX Commodity clearing for NOCC, this fully operational business provides us with an opportunity to deliver what the U.S. power and gas market currently lacks, a clearing house with the flexibility to clear both physical and financials instruments. What is appealing about this opportunity is that it has the systems, procedures and operations they have in place. As we provide our brand, our capital and our market experience, this business is already attracting interest from customers. With annual power demand in the U.S. that is more than 10x that of the Nordics, this market provides us with another area where we can strategically apply our expertise to reduce risk, increase volume and better serve the customer. In the U.K., our power market is moving forward with membership growing to include 13 members and four authorized brokers. Volume has been building steadily with expected increases in the coming months as more members commit volume to the market. We also remain on track to launch the related derivatives market in the second quarter of 2010. Our plans for our third U.S. equity market is in place. We're utilizing our existing trading technology and customer connectivity. The structure of the market will differ and that'll be a price/size priority market, becoming the first such market to offer this type of trading in U.S. equities. Shares will be allocated in a prize, displayed liquidity and pro rata distribution. The latter rewarding participants for committing capital and displaying large size. The more shares you display relative to the overall market, the more shares you are allocated and the faster your order is executed. This structure is designed to encourage greater displayed size, increased transparency, promote market stability and enable additional trading strategies. It is another example of how we continue to innovate within our existing businesses. In the Nordic, system performance has improved following the launch of INET. Peak capacity throughput has increased from 1,300 messages per second to one million messages per second. Trade volume is up, growing 9% from January to March as the rest of Europe has averaged an increase of 3% during the same period. Let me spend a moment regarding our decision on the NEURO. Earlier this week, we announced that we are closing our MTF [multilateral trading facility] due to a fundamental change in our view of the value traded in Europe and our lack of progress in developing a sustainable business model. Although this decision may have surprised some, those who know this management team are familiar with our financial discipline. Following a review of the various alternatives, we realized that the business would not yield the returns we believe are necessary to maintain operations. Ultimately, we want to ensure that we deploy our resources in Europe on opportunities that can deliver true value to our shareholders and customers. We continue to have a lot of confidence and the growth prospects of our business, and nothing speaks more to this confidence than the share repurchase plan that we recently announced. As we evaluate our performance, what's important to keep in mind is that many of the macro drivers of our business, such as industry volumes and market data subscribers, tend to lag the general economic recovery. While they may be strong at the beginning of a downward cycle, they are weak at the beginning of a recovery. Evidence of this is the fact that U.S. cash equity volumes were down 21% when compared to the first quarter of 2009. However, they have improved in April as the economic recovery continues to gain steam. When you couple this improved volume with our improved capture rate that we are experiencing in the second quarter, you'll see that the economics of our cash equity businesses are in par with where we were at the beginning of last year and a certainly are in lockstep with the improved environment for our core businesses and our new initiatives. With that, I'll turn the call over to Adena.
Thank you very much, Bob, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. As Bob highlighted, the results that we reported this morning, include some non-recurring charges, including a charge of $40 million related to the refinancing of a credit facility and terminating an interest rate swap and $7 million in pretax expenses related to asset retirements, occupancy and workforce reductions. Excluding these items, our non-GAAP net income for the first quarter of 2010 was $92 million, or $0.43 per diluted share compared to non-GAAP net income of $99 million, or $0.46 per diluted share in the fourth quarter of 2009. And net income of $102 million, or $0.48 per diluted share in the first quarter of 2009. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP results can be found in the attachments to our press release and in the presentation that's available on our website at ir.nasdaqomx.com. As reported on Slide 9 of our presentation, changes in the interest rates of foreign currencies with the U.S. dollar had a negative impact of $0.01 to non-GAAP diluted EPS when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009, and a positive impact of $0.02 when compared to the first quarter of 2009. Consistent with our prior calls and the remainder of my comments will address our non-GAAP results unless I note, otherwise. Net exchange revenues were $360 million, a decrease of $9 million, or 2% when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009 and to the prior-year quarter. Included in these results is a $5 million increase in revenues from our transactions businesses, offset by declines in our Market Technology and Market Data revenue. Within Transaction Services, although industry volumes and market share were essentially flat. The U.S. cash equities revenues increased $2 million, or 7% when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009 due to improvements in the average capture rate. Recall that, we modified fees in November 1 of last year, and the first quarter of 2010 reflects the full quarter impact of that fee adjustment. On April 1, we again modified fees within our U.S. Cash Equities business, changing the take rate per high-volume customers from $0.285 to $0.30 per hundred shares. With the improving volumes and the latest fee change in assuming constant market share, we anticipate that we could experience a $6 million to $8 million improvement in our quarterly revenues for our U.S. Cash Equities business starting in the second quarter. European Cash Equity Trading revenue remained flat when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009. Although, trade volume and turnover both increased during the period, the average fee realized declined approximately 8%, as we implemented a capped fee structure during the first quarter. Also, impacting the revenue was the partial elimination of $2 million in network vendor fees associated with the implementation of the INET trading system. A corresponding expense of approximately $2 million has also been eliminated. Finally, changes in FX results in a decline of $800,000 in revenues for the European Cash Equities Trading business. Derivative trading and clearing revenue was $61 million in the first quarter versus $57 million in the fourth quarter of 2009. Driving the increase when compared to the prior quarter were derivatives revenues in Europe, which were $28 million, up from $26 million from the fourth quarter. This increase is primarily related to the growth in cleared energy products and equity futures and options volume. Total revenue from cleared energy and carbon products was $10.5 million in the quarter, up from $10.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2009. Trading and clearing of stock and index derivatives contributed $11.9 million, up from $8.4 million last quarter. Revenue from clearing of fixed income products was $4.1 million, up from $3.7 million in the prior quarter, and other revenue and fees were $1 million, down from $3 million in the fourth quarter. In the U.S. derivatives market, our net derivatives revenues were $33 million in the first quarter, representing an increase of $2 million when compared to $31 million in the fourth quarter of 2009. The increase is primarily due to higher volumes and market share. However, also contributing to the increase is the inclusion of a revised volume-based PHLX membership fee, which previously has been a fixed monthly fee and included in Access Services. The impact of this change was to increase trading revenues by approximately $1 million, while reducing Access Services by the same amount. Within Market Data, revenue was $80 million for the first quarter, down $4 million when compared to the fourth quarter of 2009. Contributing to the decline was the level of volume in low-priced stocks, as Bob mentioned, of which our BX market match an increasing share in the first quarter. Under the SEC's revenue-sharing formula, value traded plays a role in how revenue is shared. And as BX as a share of low-priced stocks increased its corresponding contribution to our quote and trade share under the revenue-sharing formula diminished. Although, our total market share of U.S. equities was stable in the first quarter of 2010 when compared to fourth quarter, our U.S. tape plan revenues declined due to this unique aspect of the formula. Also, contributing to the decline in U.S. tape plan revenues was a slight decline in subscriber populations. In Europe, Market Data also declined when compared to the fourth quarter 2009, primarily due to foreign currency impact of the stronger U.S. dollar versus the euro. Moving on to Broker Services. This revenue was $4 million in the first quarter, down $2 million from the fourth quarter, primarily due to the sale of our U.K. Broker Services business, which occurred in the fourth quarter of 2009. Within Issuer Services, our revenues were $84 million for the quarter, equal to revenues reported in the fourth quarter of 2009. Lower U.S. listing fees were offset by higher European listing fees and licensing revenues from our Global Index Group. Turning to Market Technology. Our revenues declined in the first quarter to $34 million, down $10 million, or 23% from fourth quarter levels. However, revenues increased $5 million, or 17% compared to the first quarter of 2009. As I mentioned, on our last quarter call, Market Technology revenue is driven by large delivery contracts, as well as short-term enhancement projects and another variable revenue. In 2009, due to the economic climate, several of our clients deferred spending until later in the year, resulting in high-variable revenues in the fourth quarter coming from small enhancements, license upgrades and other contracted fees. On a going-forward basis for 2010, we expect revenues to be more stable quarter-over-quarter with some significant deliveries, deferring revenue into 2011. As a reminder, U.S. GAAP accounting requires that we defer all revenues and expenses related to large delivery contracts until the full implementation of the software and acceptance by the client, at which point the revenues will be recognized over the remaining life of the contract. In the first quarter of this year, we announced a new long-term agreement with the Australian Securities Exchange to upgrade their exchange systems to Genium INET. Additionally, we're in the mid-stage delivery phase with Osaka, and the early stage delivery phase with the Kuwait Exchange. We expect to begin recognizing revenues for each of these contracts in 2011. Generally for 2010, our strong order value demonstrates that we have several new long-term contracts with deferred revenues. Looking at specific numbers. Order intake and total order value, both improved from levels in the first quarter of 2009 with order intake increasing to $50 million in the first quarter of 2010, up from $9 million last year, and order value increasing to $496 million in the first quarter of 2010, up from $340 million in the first quarter of 2009. Order intake represents the value of order signed in the current quarter and can include short-term deliveries, as well as large contracts of long-term revenue benefits. Order value is the accumulative value of all of the orders that we have signed, but for which we have not yet recognized revenue. Because the Market Technology business is difficult to monitor on a quarter-over-quarter basis, we will begin to provide quarterly revenue guidance for this specific business units. For the second quarter 2010, we expect our Market Technology revenues to be approximately $34 million. Now turning to expenses. Total operating expenses for the first quarter were $201 million, representing a decrease of $3 million from $204 million in the fourth quarter of 2009. Lower compensation and marketing expenses were somewhat offset by higher costs associated with our data center lease. Also, contributing to the decline in spending is the impact of FX. Now looking forward, for the full year of 2010, we expect total expenses will be in the range of $875 million to $890 million, assuming current FX rates. Included in these figures are approximately $65 million of non-recurring expenses, including those associated with the recent debt refinancing, as well as the closing of the NEURO. Excluding the non-recurring expenses, we anticipate our operating expenses will be in the range of $810 million to $825 million, reflecting a decrease when compared to our previous guidance, which was in the range of $815 million to $835 million. Included in this guidance are lower core expenses, as well as savings associated with closing NEURO, partially offset by spending related to the recently acquired U.S. Energy Clearing business, NOCC, and the expected acquisition of Nord Pool ASA in late second quarter. Results for the quarter yielded operating income of $159 million with operating margins coming in at 44% and net interest expense of $23 million, up $1 million from the fourth quarter of 2009. Interest expense for the quarter represents nearly a full quarter impact of the refinancing that we completed in January. And finally on the income statement, the effective tax rate for Q1 2010 was 33% within the range of our normalized tax rate of 32% to 34%. Now turning briefly to the balance sheet. Cash and cash equivalents and financial investments at quarter end were approximately $945 million. Of this amount, approximately $526 million is reserved for regulatory requirements and other restrictive purposes. In the quarter, we used $11 million for capital spending purposes and $46 million was used in the quarter to buy back shares. Following the approval of the share repurchase program on March 2, we moved aggressively to acquire 2.3 million shares before quarter end. And as of yesterday's trade date, we have purchased 3.7 million shares with an aggregate value of $76 million. Our total debt obligations at the end of this quarter were $2.1 billion. As I mentioned before, we refinanced our credit facility in January and our new term loan requires us to begin paying down the debt of $35 million per quarter beginning in the third quarter of 2010. Additionally, when we announced our share repurchase program, we also announced we would pay down an additional $100 million this year, bringing total expected debt repayment for 2010 to $170 million. In conclusion, this quarter, we have continued our intense focus on controlling expenses and managing the balance sheet. We continue to drive down core operating costs and exit non-core businesses, providing us the opportunity to pursue new growth initiatives in a discipline and capital efficient manner. Thank you. And now I'll turn it back over to Vince.
Thanks, Adena, and operator, we'll take questions now.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Daniel Harris from Goldman Sachs. Daniel Harris - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.: I just want to go and touch on the European Cash Equity business. Obviously, things feel much better there with INET and the central clearing, so I'd love to get a little bit more color around what kind of uptake you're seeing from new clients as they trade in that business, and then that weren't there before because of the changes you've made. And then, of course, what impact that's having on the fee capture per basis point, I guess, as that sort of was a little lower than we were looking for.
Sure. Let me just give you a couple of facts in terms of what's going on in the month of April, the Nordics, on the cash equity side. One is, we see that the average daily number of trades is about 315,000 per day. That's up from 278,000 in the first quarter and a couple of days ago, we set an all-time record in Stockholm. The average daily value traded is even more impressive. In April, it's about EUR 3.1 billion, up from EUR 2.6 billion in the first quarter. So the core drivers have improved quite dramatically. I would say, with respect to new entrants in the market, we're in the early stages of that, and most of the increase in the velocity have been driven by the traditional players and obviously enjoying the benefits of the faster system in central clearing. That being said, the pipeline for new entrants is very strong. We're working through the classical issues of them getting colocated in the data center going through the things they have to do to become a really effective Nordic competitor. So we expect that to generate additional volume for us in the second quarter. With respect to the fee cap, we're very happy with the progress there. Obviously, our goal is to retain the market share we have. We're proud to be, I think, the leading established exchange with retention to market share so I think it's working, it's magic. And combined with the new entrants, we think we'll do very well. Daniel Harris - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.: Okay. Just moving on to what I would imagine will be the first of a number of questions on IDCG. Obviously, the regulatory environment here in the U.S. is changing pretty rapidly, and you guys seem like you've been early and well-positioned with this product, but any update on the number of clients that are testing the platform and to some extent the FCM's that may be joining, you seem like you gave some color that you'll have another dealer coming on board?
Yes, another FCM, I would say this the way to look at it right now, Daniel, is there's a very small number of customers in the industry who are not testing with us at this point or not engaged with us in a productive way. So certainly, the IDCG office is very busy. We feel fortunate to have a product that meets the needs and likely to be regulated into existence in the near term. So we're excited about the progress and we think we can really help bring that market along. Daniel Harris - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.: Okay. And then I'll just ask a quick numbers question and jump back in the queue. The closing of NEURO, how do you think about that? Maybe it's for Adena, in terms of the lower expenses offset by the revenues you might have had?
Sure, and I think -- we actually provide a little bit of color about in the presentation by updating our new initiative slide. So what we basically have indicated for 2010 is that the cost savings associated with closing NEURO essentially are equivalent to the new expenses we have taken on with the NOCC Clearing business in the United States. So essentially what we've done is replace the capital we're sending there with capital on an initiative that we feel has a higher return opportunity for us in the U.S. with the Cleared Energy business. But it is definitely a net savings to us in terms of the revenues versus the expenses and recognize that it's going to be a happier impact this year and a full year impact next year.
Our next question comes from Rich Repetto. [Sandler O'Neill] Richard Repetto - Sandler O`Neill: On BX, we know you've been picking up market share. There's been a high rebate relative to the spread in stocks like Sirius, and I guess what do you expect going forward? I know there's been some issue on when that pricing level can be maintained and Sirius actually moved up above $1, so any comment there on the outlook on rebates versus the spreads on these low-priced stocks at BX?
We certainly expect that the capture rate that we have in BX and what we call NASDAQ Classic will be relatively constant as we look at 2010. We expect an increase in cash, so we are experiencing it in NASDAQ Classic based on the pricing action we took in April. And if you're looking for a dominant fact, I would definitely focus on that. Richard Repetto - Sandler O`Neill: Okay. So you think you can keep your market share at BX as well, with the change in pricing?
Yes, we do. Richard Repetto - Sandler O`Neill: Okay. Then next on options, it's a 700 basis point increase and I think in March at PHLX or somewhere around there at 600. The question is with the SEC looking to cap, like at least it's been reported or purported that your strategy has been on a maker-taker model to increase the rebate and to attract flow. And I guess with caps on fees, I think the dominant view is that you might not be able to maintain such a high rebate. Are we looking at it right? How will you do in option market share if there was cap on fees at $0.30 per contract?
The first thing I want to say on the option space and it's similar to the other news we have, the second quarter has been outstanding. In the first quarter for options, volume was very strong with $13.1 million. So far at second quarter, it's at $16 million, such a dramatic increase quarter-on-quarter, and our share has held constant. So certainly, I think we're in the early stage with respect to the pricing discussions on the options marketplace and our position with the SEC is if you're going to look at pricing, you have to look at it holistically. And that holistic pricing look has to include the impact of equity ownership on pricing. I think that message will resonate and will generate a longer debate. With respect to the particular pricing movements in the SEC comment, we certainly believe within the confines of the PHLX pricing model, which I have to admit is relatively complex, there's different ways for us to maneuver and recognize that. The capture rate that we get in PHLX is around, well, I will say significantly less than $0.30. So there's ways for us to tweak our pricing with, I would call it, de minimis impact on the economics at PHLX. Richard Repetto - Sandler O`Neill: Okay, and very last quick thing, another one on IDCG. One agency, let's just say has actually expressed a very favorable view and they've talked about the potentially even to move in clear prior to any legislative reform or any rules being written. I guess the question is, is there an expectation you could be clearing any sizable amount any time soon? Or it looks like any reform just still 180 days to get 180 days to write rules after the reform is written. So prior to that, is an expectation you could be clearing in any sizable amount even before?
Well, let me say this. One is, I am not going to be speak to any one customer class directly on this call, but I will say that there are market participants who are ready to clear trades with IDCG today. We are facing what I'll call technical barriers that we have to work through to make that happen. That's our expectation that those technical barriers and when I say barriers these are normal course of events you have to do as you want to have a seamless workflow for a new system. And I would say that we should be able to work through that within the next 60 to 90 days with the different vendors and participants and there are people who want to trade if they could today.
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Alex Kramm of UBS. Alex Kramm - UBS Investment Bank: Just wanted to come back to the whole NEURO closure here. I'm not so much interested in NEURO per se, but maybe what kind of reach will this adds to your discipline that you talked about at the beginning of the call. Like are you doing a broader review of all these initiatives? I mean, you have a lot of initiatives in the air right now, so are there potentially other opportunities that could be shut down here as you really focus on the expense discipline or maximizing returns for shareholders? And I guess tied to that, you certainly seen some of the maximizing pricing in relative to market share in the U.S. Cash. So is this really a focus on -- a renewed focus maybe on not being a Jack of all trades everywhere but trying to really drive value here?
Well, I would say this, one, the discipline about review initiatives has to be consistent and compressive. And to the extent there is greater competition for investment dollars within the firm, you have to put that much more intensive appointment on that review. So I think the NEURO decision came along with the standard review process as we have with the NEURO organization. And with respect to some of the tender review question, I think it's important to recognize that NASDAQ OMX is a global organization. We are not a U.S. cash equities market, exclusively, any longer. And we have a number of people who work in our organization who come from a different walk of life than cash equities, who have different business plans, that's important that they get the proper funding and support at the corporate level. So we balance that against our financial discipline. So the actions we're taking I think are consistent with the culture and the management philosophy in NASDAQ OMX. Alex Kramm - UBS Investment Bank: So we shouldn't expect any other significant reviews of other businesses that might underperform at this point?
Well, no, I think I'm saying that all our businesses have to be reviewed on a regular, consistent and compressive basis. So we do that, and we will continue to do that. And what I'm saying is that review in a practical way gets more intense when we have different competition for the use of our pre-defined investable capital. But we review these businesses regularly, consistently and we certainly have to make the hard decisions when to start and when to stop. And I think we take pride in our ability to do that. Alex Kramm - UBS Investment Bank: And let me ask just add something else on the European Cash business. Now obviously, has your outlook for the Pan-European markets changed significantly at this point? I mean, do you think there are opportunities when you look at the Nordic markets and maybe start trading Pan-European there, perhaps lever the business more towards the regional Nordic customers and give them access to the European marketplace maybe at a much better price point or better economics?
Well, I will say this, with respect to Pan-European marketplace, we certainly are fully aware that the value traded in Europe has declined quite dramatically, part and parcel of the credit crisis. And we don't see it reviving back to that debt level. We also see that on the Pan-European MTF basis, unlike in the U.S., the capture rate went right and the ECN world declined over time, and that decline over time was closely correlated to an increase in volume over time. So Europe, we didn't have that experience [Audio Gap] in MTF that wants to put together a market data product. We have to have a very large share of markets. So that drives us. But we also -- when we look at Pan-European, we certainly see in the world going forward, there is and will be segmentation opportunities to look outside your whole markets. I think you would look to our experience in Oslo as informative of how we might take our Pan-European efforts in the future. We are, at this point, the largest MTF in the Oslo marketplace, and we have just really begun there. So we'll look at segmentation opportunities.
Our next question comes from Roger Freeman of Barclays. Roger Freeman - Barclays Capital: I'm just actually following up on our Alex's question there. If I hear you right, it sounds like you don't have a desire to acquire any MTF basically market share. I mean the issue being the volume as a consideration giving, as you pointed out, base pricing went low very quickly, buying the market share doesn't get you where you want to be, right?
Well, I didn't quite say that. I was speaking about our build strategy on a Pan-European basis. I think the key is segmentation going forward, directly leveraging the core platform that we have in place today. And obviously, the fact that we converted the Nordics to INET in the first quarter, it gave us the ability to think about our Pan-European operation on a different way. As we're running the old platform, it really didn't give us a point of leverage from Stockholm, now we have that. With respect acquisition opportunities of MTFs, as we've said previously, it is something that we recognize as our job is to understand the different assets on a global basis across the different asset class to consider any reasonable opportunity in Europe on an MTF basis. Roger Freeman - Barclays Capital: I mean, what would you characterize as having been the biggest challenge sort of aside the pricing? Because actually, when you went into this, I think you yourselves, you're going to come in with basically U.S. level pricing, which was rock-bottom. So I mean, is the bigger issue just been the ability to get dealers on board and partnering with them successfully?
Well, as I said, I think the value traded numbers that are in the models today were not in the models two years ago. We certainly believe that, that three-year ago number, which we thought was going to increase is not real. So that's the single biggest determinant. Roger Freeman - Barclays Capital: And then on IDCG, a follow-up there, so that some of the technical issues that have to get worked through, is this more on the IDCG side? Is this getting dealers from some of the operational aspects on board? Or is it issues still with the FHFA because they said, they were going to do it within two months, that was two moths ago. So it's either starting any day or somebody's behind?
First, I'm talking about the market in general. As all the focus has been in Washington, at the end of the day, the plumbing infrastructure between the industry ecosystem is fundamental to the success. And I said, we have several customers of some of our existing FCMs who would trade tomorrow, but we have to make sure that we give them a seamless environment in working on that. And there are vendors involved with this value chain, it's not exclusively under our control or the FCM's control or the end-user customer. So we're working on it. And again, we wish it was done today, it's not. But this is normal course of business that you've got to do. And obviously, vendors have different priorities and they don't have to naturally line up with ours as being the top of list. So we're working through it. Roger Freeman - Barclays Capital: And then just lastly on BX, looking at the price and the rebates that have brought in higher volumes and lower price stocks. Is that something that, given the negative impact in the market data pricing formula or market data revenue sharing formula, that you need to re-evaluate there? I mean, is the benefit you're getting on the volumes there or is it from the launch of any market data?
Definitely. We think BX from a market data perspective will always be a relative underperformer. But we also recognize that the first quarter was probably extreme in terms of how the formula played out. But overall, it's been a great new initiative for us.
Our next question comes from Niamh Alexander of KBW. Niamh Alexander - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods: Can I go to the Options business where you've had consecutive revenue growth again, and your share has been very strong, congratulations. Help me understand because you've lived through the growth of the high-frequency trading community in the equities world. How far along do you think you are in the uptake in there with respect to the options because it seems us like it's early stages, but you would see a lot more of that and then have a lot of information on that, should would say?
Sure. Let me just start by saying that our success in the first quarter with respect to market share with PHLX has continued in April where in the first quarter, we averaged 21.3%; April, we're up to 23.4%. And as I previously mentioned, the average daily number of contracts is up to 16% from 13.1%, so all very good drivers. With respect to the high-frequency question, I will say this, that by and large, the equity high-frequency trading shops have been at this point a minimal impact on the options marketplace. We know there's a large number of them endeavoring to get their models to work in this environment. Several have been relatively successful. But if you have made a prediction that a year or 18 months ago, you would've thought it would have a stronger impact. So I think with the early stages, I believe the high-frequency firms in the fullness of time will figure out how to be a significant player in this space, but they're not quite there yet. Niamh Alexander - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods: And with respect to the pricing, Bob, do you feel that there's maybe some more tweaks to the pricing, there's always tweaks to the pricing, shall we say? Do you think that maybe as more of these get on board with the exchanges that the competition for our price pressure intensifies from here? I know you've been rather innovative in kind of moving towards maybe, shall we say, a hybrid-type pricing structure?
Well, I think there will always be pricing considerations, and we certainly spent a lot of time thinking about it. And our pricing and the options world is, in certainly way, is fundamentally more complex than in the equity world. But I would caution you to recognize that the options market structure and the aggregation of order flow in the options world is in some ways fundamentally different than in the equity world. So they're not going to follow the same path per se. It will be a different world but it will be competitive. Niamh Alexander - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods: And if I could, IDCG, help me understand, if you got the buyside that want to clear a product, typically, right now the way the market structure is most often a dealer that's on the other side of the particular trade. Could the buyside put something into a clearing house and the dealer? And would this dealer have to also agree to go into that same clearing house? Or they both need to agree on which particular clearing house they want to clear at? And right now, have you had many positive and supportive conversations with the dealers with respect to participating?
Well, we're having many conversations with the dealers. As I said in my early conversation, it's really a very few that are not talking to us in some full way. But we're not naive also and I think the dealers are talking to us because they are receiving pressure from their customers to do so. And we're probably not their first choice with respect to the clearing house they would pick if they have complete control of the decision. So we're working hard to gain the dealers' trust and we're certainly open for input from the dealers with respect to what would make the product that much more appealing to them. But we're not going to sacrifice our core mission, and that is to make sure that this marketplace is allowed to open up to a greater variety of competitors and competitors both from the FCM point of view and the liquidity provision point of view. So I think there's a common path we can find with the dealers and we're working towards that. Niamh Alexander - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods: Have you had any -- should we kind of, shall we say, expect maybe some public announcements of some cooperation, is that what you're working towards?
Well, we're anxious to get the first trade. It's a little frustrating and that we are ready, our customers, we have customers who are willing. And as we've said, we just have to have the plumbing right in this business. That is fundamentally important because there is a strong risk element to it and we have to manage and make sure that we're properly automated. So I would say if you hide the highlight one thing, it's the push to get the systems integration done so we can get the first trade. Niamh Alexander - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods: And if I could go back to acquisitions, you've laid out many times how you think about levering the existing top performance, so I'm not going to ask you there. But can you help me understand the pace of discussions with respect to potential acquisition targets, now that your balance sheet signed off and your cost structure, you've kind of worked through what was left there? Have the pace of discussions increased recently? Are you seeing more opportunities or seller expectations coming more in line with what you're looking towards?
I would say this, that there are always discussions with respect to possible strategic maneuvers. I think as compared to '09, '10, the discussions are at evaluation points, which would make sense for shareholders. For whatever reason in '09, whatever discussion you had, it was as if the credit crisis did not happen. So I think you'd see more people dealing with reality at this point in time, so I think that would bode well.
Our next question comes from Howard Chen of Crédit Suisse. Howard Chen - Crédit Suisse First Boston, Inc.: Bob, pretty good structure on the organic growth and the opportunity to buy back the stock here. I guess how do you think about the potential pace of repurchase activity versus the M&A landscape, which you just touched on, and just organic deployment?
I'll let Adena take part of that question, but let me just start as kind of continuation to the last point. With the fact that we now have our balance sheet in shape and we are engaged in a share repurchase program, it's important for our investors to recognize how we look at acquisitions. So for the past number of years, we have always said that the acquisition has to accrete to our shareholders within a year, slightly longer if it's a larger acquisition, but certainly not so much longer that we're in the business of predicting the future. And the second thing we said, it had to be strategically significant. And you could easily define that as being something that levers the mothership in some fundamental way. But it really is a third dimension to how we look in acquisitions today, and the acquisitions essentially have to provide a return superior to the share buyback program. And at this point in time, that in many case is the highest hurdle that we look at. So we're using that discipline. As I said, there are more targets that we're dealing with realistic valuations, but we use that as our fundamental guiding post.
And, Howard, in terms of the share buyback, we've been pretty systematic in the way that we've been buying back shares. And I think we would expect to continue to follow that discipline as we continue to have the plan in place. We have a fairly narrows and windows that we do tend to put in, what I would call, the 10b5-1 plan, which will create more of a systematic approach of the buyback and we certainly intend right now to continue to do that. Howard Chen - Crédit Suisse First Boston, Inc.: And then just another follow-up on IDCG. In the past, Bob, you've helped us frame the overall opportunity calling a nine figure opportunity. Adena, I think you've given some surprising the past of just $1 per 100,000 of notional value. Anything that you see on a competitive landscape or within the current legislative proposals that make you changed that broad financial picture you painted?
No, not at all. We certainly expect it to be a competitive marketplace. And right now, the discussions are not about fees, but how we're changing the world and how we're changing their daily lives. But certainly in the fullness of time, like anything else, there will be competition.
I would also say on the fees, just recognize, that's kind of a look at it in an average across kind of essentially the durations that we would anticipate coming in. So there are variable fees based on the specific contracts that have come into the clearing house. But that's kind of the average that we've been looking at across the duration.
Our next question comes from Bob Napoli of Piper Jaffray. Robert Napoli - Piper Jaffray Companies: Another follow-up question on the Options business. Looking at the structure of the Options business, it's starting to look like the barriers to competition may be no higher than it is for the Equities business, given the way market share is moving around. Like for example, your market share is up a lot but I mean your gross revenue was up 19% quarter-over-quarter, but your rebates were up 62%. I mean, obviously, your other competitors are not going to just sit back and seed market share permanently. I mean, the Options business, does that mean that the operating margin inevitably is going to be much lower? I mean, you can never compare this business to many of the future businesses that the market has, and other barriers of entry are just too low, is that fair or not?
I don't believe it's fair. When I say it's not fair to directly compare it to the Cash Equity business because it is a fundamentally different business. The number of players involved with the options market place is different at this point in time and the competitive characteristics are different. The market structure is different, and I do need to highlight that. And certainly, with respect to the great gains in share we've had at Philly, it's been through the innovation of trying to combine the maker-taker of market structure that we know in the equity world, but put it in the context of the existing options market structure. That's proved to be the right place to be, and you see it. I mean, that number for NASDAQ OMX has been a reasonable success, certainly relative to the investment we made and the new initiative that's providing an outside return but it didn't sweep the world the way maker-taker price time did in the equity world. It's only when we combined it within the existing infrastructure in Philly that we had a greater return. So if I was to point to any single fact that tells you that there are differences, that would be it. Robert Napoli - Piper Jaffray Companies: I mean, your pricing share, Bob, you said is up strongly again. I mean, it's up in April. Was there any pricing adjustments in April? Were there any pricing adjustments in April versus the first quarter?
Well, there weren't pricing adjustments. What I would say this, for sure, our capture rate in April has improved as compared to the first quarter, and that's been as a result of the different mix of business, the improved mix of business. So we look at April from the options we see, overall, industry volumes are higher, our share is higher and our capture is higher. So we call that a trifecta.
Our next question comes from Matthew Heinz of Stifel, Nicolaus. Matthew Heinz - Jefferies & Company: Just another question on the Clearing business. As you move forward with customer discussions with IDCG, how are you thinking about balancing their competitive aspects I guess in terms of margin requirements versus the duty of risk management for the clearing house? And just what are your thoughts as to how the competitive environment play out assuming the legislation comes down as expected?
Well, one, anytime you run a clearing house, the risk manager walks their own path, and that path is independent of the particular business requirement. So we've spent a lot of time with the risk model. We feel quite strongly that it represents the best of breed for clearing houses, so we feel strong. We feel comfortable with how that is constructed. And it's important to recognize, we are taking this over-the-counter product and putting in futures wrapper on it. So we're, as a reference point the clearing house model in the future's world, not in the over-the-counter world. So we feel good about that. I'm not sure I remember the first part of your question. Matthew Heinz - Jefferies & Company: Really just kind of getting down to how will you compete other than just the fee that's charged for clearing contracts, will you compete on margin requirements? And how do you feel that conflicts with...
No, you don't compute on margin requirements here. We have, at this point in time, a unique product instruction. And as I said, we've taken on over-the-counter product and given the flexibility you would in the future's environment. So we clearly have a product lead with that. Our clearing house represents best of breed, so that's a plus for us. Others will be able to follow that more closely. We have spent a lot of time making sure the technology is in place to make this as seamless as it can with our customers. And as we've discussed in this call and other meetings, we've spent more time with integration efforts, so we clearly have a head start in that arena. And then you have the basic model of the clearing house. As I said, our core principle is that we want this clearing house to be, in all-to-all market, a true clearing.house. And that at this point in time is unique in the marketplace. Matthew Heinz - Jefferies & Company: And then how do you think the NFX futures business? Within all this, do you think there are pretty significant clearing opportunities -- or for capital efficiency opportunities along side the futures?
I think with the beginning of time with over-the-counter derivatives coming into the cleared the environment. So I think that's the dominant decision point. Who can take these products, move it forward into a clearing house environment and process the work in a seamless way and provide not just to our clearing house but our FCMs and their customers the proper risk management tools. And that's how we'll compete and win in this space.
Our next question comes from David Grossman of Thomas Weisel. David Grossman - Thomas Weisel Partners Equity Research: Back to BX just quickly, I mean, given what it's doing what it's supposed to do, is the first quarter really an aberration or would always be a few low-priced stocks that will be high-volume names and we'll see that impact on market data so we kind of have to just until the anniversary kind of that impact out four quarters?
I think I've said this before, I think BX will always underperform with respect to the market data formula as it exists today, so that's a constant. But we also believe that the first quarter was extreme. So there will always be some negative drag. It's not likely to be as strong as it was in the first quarter. Do you want to add anything Adena? Adena used to run market data, so I should let her answer these questions.
The BX formula has been something that things can move around based on the way that you quote, the way that you trade, what stocks you trade in. So it is something where the way that the market develops, which stocks end up with more volume, which stocks -- the way that the quoting behavior changes and could change even under any sort of SEC rules that come through. I think that it is something where you'll always see some movement around. And as Bob said, I think that the first quarter was more extreme for BX. But BX being strong marketplace for the lower-priced stocks is something that will create some level of market data challenge within the formula, but it will be to a varying degree every quarter, really.
So this would be the extreme, but there will always be some impact. David Grossman - Thomas Weisel Partners Equity Research: I think, Adena, if I heard you right, and maybe I didn't get this, all the information you put forth, but it sounded like you expect the $68 million benefit sequentially from the pricing actions that you took. And if that's kind of what you said, I think you said also market share would be flat sequentially. How should we think about the volume growth assumption that gets into those numbers?
Well, I think we're not going to give any specific projections. But I would tell that, as Bob had mentioned, the volumes are up in April over the first quarter. And if we continue to see some level of recovery there along with the pricing move, we feel comfortable in saying that we should see $6 million to $8 million sequential quarter-over-quarter increase in revenues for the U.S. Cash Equities business. And I did say, assuming market share remains constant, and I think that's really mean remains relatively constant to the first quarter levels. And so far, the pricing action has been very well-received. And I would say that our market share has been relatively consistent. So we're not going to break it down completely, but that's essentially where we're coming out and looking at the second quarter and beyond.
I'll add a couple of things. With respect to the volume, the first quarter, we averaged about 8.6 billion shares in U.S. equities. April, we've been averaging 9.7. Yesterday, we did 10.8. So those are all positives. With respect to the revenue item that we gave you for growth, it obviously represents, which has brew different impacts and our motive is to not have the effect of the price increase be out there clear to everybody but to put it all together. But it's working very well, I would say.
Our next question comes from Edward Ditmire of Maguire (sic) [Macquarie]. Edward Ditmire - Macquarie Research: Just a quick question on the market data. You talked about lower number of subscriptions along with the formulaic aspects. Can you just clarify, were you talking about NASDAQ proprietary products or is the Consolidated Tape Association pool been reset at lower levels?
It really was log set from slightly lower populations and what we call the level one product, Consolidated Tape product. And that product really is more indicative of overall industry populations, people, the financial industry in place. And it does tend to lag behind. So both on the way down and on the way back up, it tends to lag behind the economic downturn and recovery. Also, what we also tend to see is some level of seasonality to the retail use of market data. And that can swing things a little bit here and there. But that impact was relatively minor both the professional and non-professional decline was pretty small for level one. In the proprietary products, we've seen actually very continued strong demand and strong populations, and it definitely has not followed the same trend for as the consolidated team. Edward Ditmire - Macquarie Research: The financial perform package does seem to contemplate equity index derivatives following under CFTC regulation as it reads day. Can you talk about maybe implications both through your options exchanges, also if there's any potential to kind regain revenues around licensing, your indexes, if that were to happen?
Well, Ed is on the phone. But my understanding is that Blanche Lincoln has stepped away from that position and in the revised Dodd-Lincoln bill (sic) [Lincoln-Dodd bill], options would say underneath the SEC. So, Ed, am I correct on that?
Our next question comes from Mike Carrier of Deutsche Bank. Michael Carrier - Deutsche Bank AG: Adena, two questions on the Market Technology segment. Did you say that the $34 million would be a decent run rate for the rest of this year? And then I guess the second question on it is, there tend to be some big revenue numbers, not just for you guys, but just across industry in this Market Tech segment? And I'm just trying to understand, when I look at that $500 million in order value, and I think you did a good explanation in terms of the timing of that. But just trying to understand, are these contracts over like five years, three years, just so we can kind of gauge expectations for 2011, 2012?
Sure. So the $34 million was specific to second quarter. And each quarter, we'll give you guidance for the next month. But one thing I did say in my comments is that in 2010, we are anticipating a relatively, I would say, less chunkiness in the quarter-over-quarter revenues as we saw in 2009, that was my comment. But we will also be providing guidance for the second quarter right now. In terms of the order value and the duration of the contracts, it does vary by customer. Most contracts are probably in the five- to seven-year time frame, but we do have some longer-term contracts, like ten-year contracts, that we are starting to see come across and was particularly with some of our long-term clients. So I think that -- I would say on average, you can look at five- to seven-year time frame for the order value. And as I said before, the orders are comprised of licensing fees, as well as maintenance and service contracts. And in some cases, facilities management, but not very often. And the way that the fees will work is that if there's an annual service and maintenance contract, that will be brought in annually, but then the license fee will be amortized over the life of the contract. Michael Carrier - Deutsche Bank AG: Bob, just in IDCG, it seems like most players in the industry, just from a due diligence standpoint, should be testing each of the platforms, because they really aren't that many out there at this point. So just trying to understand, the dealers, they're siding with LCH because they've been using them for a while. The buy side, they're kind of mixed but not in any rush. I'm just trying understand, when we look at the different aspects of the different platforms, it seems like it there's obviously fees and you guys mentioned competitiveness, and then there's also the capital and the margin requirements. And based on what we understand, it seems like CME and LCH, their margin requirements are based on a little bit more of a robust standard so far of like five to seven days versus is IDCG being one to two. I'm just trying to understand, all of this is in flux, so nothing has down path, but just trying to understand from your guidance perspective, what's the differentiation that brings whether it's the buyside, probably the buyside to that platform?
With respect to the margin, we certainly believe that our margin is the proper margin. And I know IDCG put out a paper on that last week. So we'll be happy to cover that with you off-line in more detail. With respect to our product offering and its core benefit, is one, it's here, it's real today. But as I said previously, you have to recognize that it is, in many ways, fundamentally different than the other offerings, which has some appeal or less appeal depending upon who you are in the space. But it's important to recognize that it's meant to be on all-to-all platform. It's meant for the FCM model to allow more entrants into the space. So clearly, we're looking at a space where there are five players controlling 95% of the environment. And we think in the new world, that will change, and our platform is welcoming to those new players in the world. And similar to what we saw in the U.S. equities, that doesn't mean bad things for the five players. And I think out of the five players, some of them certainly recognize that, and it's a question of moving forward. And it could be opportunities for all. I mean, this market has the ability or will, I should say, transform and not look anything like it does today several years after the regulatory change. So we're there as an all-to-all platform, the only true all-to-all platform in the space where operational, and we're ready to go.
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Celeste Brown of Morgan Stanley. Celeste Brown - Morgan Stanley: Just a quick housekeeping question first. I assume you bought the shares back late in the quarter. Just wondering what your quarter-end share count was?
Our share count was -- well, our average for the quarter was 214.7 million shares. Our quarter end was around 213 million or a little under 213 million shares. So we can give you an exact number after the call. But I think that we did started on March 2, so that just recognized we only had one month in the first quarter to buy back shares. And that's why we also gave you the up-to-date number for essentially the end of April. Celeste Brown - Morgan Stanley: And then in terms of the NECC, or I guess renamed NOCC acquisition, was this driven by reform as well, certainly commodities are going to be one of the products that will need to be cleared in the new environment?
Not so much and that you have to look at our experience now at NASDAQ OMX. So we have acquired Nord Pool, which is basically has 100% share of power trading in the Nordics. We were invited into the U.K. based upon the trade associations wanted to bring some additional organization to the marketplace. And these individuals have spent their career, we've chartered them well over a year ago to look at the U.S. market report back and tell us where there were opportunities. So as a result of that experience and that effort over the last year that we uncovered this opportunity, and that's why we've made the move.
And I'm showing that our final question comes from Daniel Harris of Goldman Sachs. Daniel Harris - Goldman Sachs Group Inc.: Just last question on the access services. Any change in what's going on with co-location on the equities front here in the U.S. that would be different from what we've been seeing on the trend in the last few quarters?
No, it's I think a strong demand for collocation services. We have more than enough capacity to meet the demand in the co-location account, so we're very comfortable about our position. You want to add anything, Adena?
I thank everybody for their time here today, we appreciate it. And we look forward to talking to you certainly in this format next quarter. And we'll be available through the next days or weeks to answer any questions you may have. So thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. You may all disconnect, and have a wonderful day.