ArcelorMittal S.A. (MT) Q2 2013 Earnings Call Transcript
Published at 2013-08-01 15:01:30
Daniel Fairclough - Director of Investor Relations London Lakshmi Niwas Mittal - Chairman, Chief Executive Officer, President, Managing Director of Operations and Member of Group Management Board Aditya Mittal - Chief Financial Officer, Principal Accounting Officer and Member of Group Management Board Peter G. J. Kukielski - Former Chief Executive of Mining and Member of Group Management Board Louis L. Schorsch - Chief Technology Officer of Research & Development - Global Automotive, Member of Group Management Board and Member of Investment Allocation Committee Gonzalo Pedro Urquijo Fernandez de Araoz - Member of The Group Management Board and Chairman of Investment Allocation Committee
Alexander Haissl - Morgan Stanley, Research Division Stephen Benson - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division Michael Shillaker - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division Luc Pez - Exane BNP Paribas, Research Division Alessandro Abate - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division Anthony B. Rizzuto - Cowen Securities LLC, Research Division Carsten Riek - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division Jeffrey R. Largey - Macquarie Research David Adam Katz - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division Neil Sampat - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division Cedar Ekblom - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division Bastian Synagowitz - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division Alexander Hauenstein - MainFirst Bank AG, Research Division Thomas Joseph O'Hara - Citigroup Inc, Research Division
Okay, Daniel, you may go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon, and good morning, everybody. This is Daniel Fairclough from ArcelorMittal Investor Relations. Thank you for joining today's conference call. [Operator Instructions] And can I also remind everyone that this call is being recorded. So with that, I'll hand over to Mr. Mittal.
Thank you, Daniel. Good day to everyone, and welcome to ArcelorMittal's second quarter 2013 results call. I'm joined on this call today by all the members of the group management board. Before I begin the presentation, I would like to make 3 key points. My opening point would be that while the second quarter market trends were not favorable, the outlook today is better than it was a couple of months back. These trends have been more positive, and as we move to the remainder of the year, I expect the year-on-year datas to improve. The second part I would like to make is that second quarter results demonstrate further improvement in our underlying performance as compared to the second half of 2012. I continue to believe the second half 2012 marked the trough in ArcelorMittal's profitability. Again, this quarter will show improved sequential and year-on-year performance in our flat Europe business. I believe this provides further evidence that our optimization efforts have been successful. My final point would be on our balance sheet. We have more than achieved our net debt target for mid 2013. Our balance sheet is now very well positioned. We are well within our covenants and significantly could replace net debt [ph] in a strong position to deal with upcoming maturities. While I expect net debt to increase slightly by year end, we will still be broadly free cash flow neutral in 2013. Moving to the agenda on Slide #2. As usual, I will begin today's presentation with a brief overview of our results and update on our strategic priorities. I will then spend some time on the outlook for our markets before I turn the call over to Adit, who will go through the results for the second quarter in greater detail, as well as an update on our guidance for 2013. Turning to Slide 3, I will start with safety. The loss time injury frequency rate in second quarter remained flat at 0.9X. On the left-hand side, you can see the clear progress we have made in recent years. We recently held our 7th Annual Health and Safety Day to reinforce this message and make sure that all levels of the organization are focused on this primary objective. While I'm pleased to see our focus are first being reflected in this improvement, I'm disappointed with the number of fidelities at our operations. Let me reiterate that I expect ArcelorMittal to make continued progress in our safety performance, particularly in further reducing the rate of civil injuries and fatality prevention. Our ultimate objective is Zero Harm. Turning to the highlights of the second quarter as shown on Slide #4. EBITDA for second quarter was $1.7 billion. On a comparable basis, there was a clear improvement in our operating results. This was driven by higher steel and mining volumes across the business and the benefits of a positive price cost impact in steel, partially offset by negative price cost impact in the mining business. Our net debt declined to $16.2 billion, which is below our half year target level of $17 billion through improved cash flow from operations and M&A proceeds. We remain committed to medium-term target of $15 billion of net debt. The expansion of our AMMC, which is Canadian operations, from 16 million tonnes to 24 million tonnes is now almost complete. And we should start to see the benefits of the additional high-margin capacity and the ramp-up production in the second half of 2013. I'm also satisfied to see that the actions we have taken and continue to take to optimize our cost positions, and our cost positions are delivering results. I will talk about this in some more detail later. I want to spend a moment on net debt. As you can see on this Slide, we have improved our balance sheet position dramatically over the past 7 quarters since third quarter of '11. Through a combination of asset sales, we generally combine offering and focus on working capital. We have reduced net debt by almost $9 billion over the period. With net debt of $16.2 billion at the end of second quarter, we have successfully surpassed the target we set ourselves earlier in the year of $17 billion. Our medium-term objective remains in net debt position of $15 billion. This is the level of debt that we believe the business can sustain at any point in the cycle. Ultimately, this will be achieved through free cash flow, so I do not want to put a specific timeline on this target. What I will confirm though is that we do not intend to ramp up metal steel growth in CapEx nor increase dividends until $15 billion target has been achieved and market conditions improve. Moving to the next Slide. I want to emphasize the progress we have made on reducing our cost base. We acted quickly and pragmatically to the Eurozone crisis. Despite what you may have read in the press, we have stuck to our goals. Capacity has been closed, including the recent mothballing at Florange, and the savings are being realized. As you can see on the chart on the left, including residual cost effects, we have now exceeded the targeted $1 billion level of savings on a run rate basis. As was the case in the first quarter, this residual cost will disappear from the system as we passed through the various legal and process milestones. Importantly, we are now seeing the actions in our financial results. Excluding the impact of DDH, EBIDTA [indiscernible] carbon segment was over $300 million higher in the first 6 months of 2013 as compared to the same period of 2012. Considering the team of cost cutting, at our Investor Day, we announced a new $3 billion cost optimization program. This new program focuses more on variable cost reductions in our plants than on fixed-cost savings, although these will continue to be substantial. This is very much a bottom-up process rather than a top-down objective. The individual components that make up the total $3 billion plant are based, not on theoretical calculations, but rather on actual KPIs that have been realized at our existing operations. This is a very powerful program, and I remain convinced that this is not something that all of our competitors can match. As a result, I expect the business to retain the majority of these savings. The program is still in its early days. But in the first 6 months of the year, we are on track with annualized savings of $600 million, which we have achieved so far. This remains a key support to our leaders. Moving on, the subject of CapEx on the next slide. Although most still CapEx remains suspended in light of improved market fundamentals in the Brazilian long product, we have restarted our Monlevade expansion project. This will essentially involve 2 phases: the first phase focused on downstream activities, including a new wire rod mill in Monlevade as well as further investment in Juiz de Fora to raise meltshop and rebar capacity. The total CapEx for phase, for first phase is $180 million and the projected schedule to be completed by end of 2015. Second phase will focus on the upstream facilities in Monlevade, with additional crude steel capacity of 1.2 million tonnes per annum. This is on -- when to restart this phase will be taken in the future. At the same time, we continue to fund our mining growth projects. We are making progress on our plan to take iron ore production capacity from our own mines from 56 million tonnes in 2012 up to 84 million tonnes in 2015. We are pleased to report the completion of construction of the additional capacity at ArcelorMittal Mines Canada. In June, we produced the first concentrate from the new Line 7, and production will now ramp up over the second half. The estimated CapEx for the project was $1.6 billion. This was above the initial budget, and we have taken a number of actions internally. And the results will show that lessons learned are not repeated in Liberia. I'm very disappointed by this overrun. Nevertheless, the economics of the project remain favorable, and we continue to expect a healthy return on this investment. Moving to Liberia. We are also progressing with our second phase expansion from 4 million tonnes per year direct ship ore or 15 million tonnes per annum premium concentrate. Due to commercial considerations, we have changed the product specification to a central feed, which we believe will be more marketable and will not carry value and use discounts, which Liberia is carrying today. We still aim to complete the expansion before the end of 2015. Next, I will discuss our market outlook for 2013. Global indicators are slowly turning, particularly in developed markets. This supports our expectation of a mild upturn for global growth in the second half. Leading indicators, which were pointing to weaker growth as we entered second quarter have now rebounded. ArcelorMittal weighted global PMI has moved back on the 15th of June. The July investor [ph] release today show a further rebound and signal growth in industrial demand. In the U.S., all the economic growth in the first half of 2013 was only 1.4%. This was mainly due to the sequester, and underlying fundamentals remained positive. Rising [indiscernible] confidence, employment growth and expanding credit underpinned by web demand. Total sales remain robust. Supply and demand continues to grow strongly supported by strengthening residential sales. In comparison, demand from nonresidential construction and machinery has been weaker than expected. However, year-over-year decline in FX demand in the first half of 2013 was mainly due to [indiscernible] cutting over 1 million tonnes of inventory. Inventory in the United States is now low, and a slow rebound in underlying demand in second half will be supported by mild restocking. Because of the weak start of the year, we have reduced our steel demand focus for 2013, but still expect a strong year-on-year growth in the second half. In the Eurozone, leading indicators confirm the beginning of a slow turnaround in Europe. For the first time in 2 years in the Eurozone manufacturing, EMI is over 50. This points to our stabilization and underlying steel demand in Europe and the prospects to some slow improvement, but for very low levels. Although sales hit a 20-year low in June and all major markets declined except U.K., we remain cautious at high unemployment, and ongoing vertical uncertainties will weigh out growth. Demand will slowly rise from an [indiscernible], but construction is slightly to continue to decline, albeit at a slower rate. Inventory datas for Europe is still unavailable, but with imports of steel passage declining during the courier, inventory levels are likely to have fallen further. Again, the stock cycle is beginning to help the business, and we are seeing stronger order books than at this time last year. Moving to China. Chinese GDP growth declined to 7.5% in second quarter due to weaker growth in investment, exports and industrial output. While manufacturing has slowed, the whole steel-intensive segments have continued to grow relatively strongly during first half '13. There's a robust growth in auto production, and infrastructure investment continues to benefit from previous stimulus measures. Housing starts have also begun to pick up recently. Therefore, despite high steel production level during the second quarter, inventories at mills have been reduced so that the prospects for efforts and [ph] demand in the second half are better than previously expected. Overall, we continue to focus global FX steel demand to grow by approximately 3% in 2013 and expect ArcelorMittal's [indiscernible] expense to increase approximately between 1% and 2%. With this, I hand it over to Adit, who will discuss the financial business guidance in more detail.
Thank you. Good afternoon, and good morning to everyone. I'll start with Slide 11, the EBITDA bridge from Q1 to Q2 2013. Shipping out the effects of the onetime gain of DJ galvanizing sale and impact of DDH income from Q1 results, underlying EBITDA performance of the business in the second quarter improved by 19%. You can see this on the top where EBITDA -- comparably that was $1.4 billion; and now for the second quarter, we're reporting $1.7 billion. The bridge also showed that our steel business was positively impacted by both volumes and the price cost effective in Q2. More than half of the volume impact came in the Long Carbon business, followed by Flat Carbon Europe. With the exception of Flat Carbon Americas and AMDS, all steel segments saw a positive price cost benefit in the second quarter. Flat Carbon Americas was particularly impacted during the quarter by labor and unforeseen operational issues in the U.S., as well as higher costs. In our mining business, there was an overall increase in marketable iron ore shipments driven by improved volumes in AMMC, our business in Canada following the seasonally constrained first quarter. However, despite positive impact from the effect of like pricing on a portion of our shipments, the overall decline in seaborne iron ore prices this quarter resulted in a negative price cost impact of $42 million in our mining results. Moving to our P&L bridge, which is on Slide 12. We'll focus on the chart in the upper half of the slide, which shows the second quarter results, but comparative figures are there for the previous quarter in the lower half. I'll point out the key differences below the EBITDA line. During the second quarter, we booked a noncash impairment charge of $39 million, primarily relating to the closure of the organic coating and template lines in Florange. That's in our facilities in Europe, [indiscernible] Europe. In addition, we booked restructuring charges of $173 million, out of which $137 million represents costs incurred for the long-term idling of the Florange liquid fees. This includes cost, such as voluntary separation, theme cost, site rehabilitation cost, as well as temporary [ph] obligations. Both these charges represent our efforts to improve our asset base and are part of the asset optimization program. Net interest expense in the second quarter was comparable to Q1, but foreign exchange and other net financing losses were greater in the second quarter at $530 million as compared to $155 million charge in the first quarter of 2013. This delta is primarily due to a foreign exchange loss of $249 million in the second quarter as compared to a gain of $96 million in the first quarter of 2013. The loss in the second quarter is driven by a 9% devaluation of the Brazilian real versus the U.S. dollar, which impacted loans and payables denominated in foreign currency, which are largely in the company. This is largely noncash and is reversed within the other nonoperating activities like in the cash flow statement. After recording an income tax expense of $99 million for the second quarter, we reported a net loss of $0.8 billion for the quarter. Moving on to the next slide, Slide 13. Although we reported an accounting loss for the quarter, the cash flow performance is strong as you can see on this slide. This shows us the waterfall taking us from EBITDA to free cash flow. Cash flow generated by operating activities for the second quarter included a $1.3 billion release in operating working capital. Cash outflow for net financial costs, tax expenses and others is $0.6 billion. After CapEx of $0.7 billion, we had positive free cash flow for the quarter of $1.7 billion. Finally, we show a bridge on Slide 14 for the change in our net debt. The main components of cash generation during the quarter, are free cash flow as described earlier of $1.65 billion and M&A proceeds of $290 million from the second tranche of the sale of our $15% stake in AMMC. So during the second quarter, net debt fell by $1.8 billion to $16.2 billion. Over the course of the first half of 2013, net financial debt has declined by $5.6 billion from $21.8 billion at the end of 2012. This is more than the total proceeds from the capital raise and divestments. Let me now address guidance, that's on Slide 15 of the presentation. As you know, we are today revising our full year EBITDA guidance to greater than $6.5 billion. Let me make a few points regarding this change. First of all, I want to highlight that this revised guidance still implies an improvement in underlying profitability, I compare it to 2012. This is being driven by an expected 1% to 2% increase in steel shipments, approximately 20% higher marketable iron ore volumes and the benefits of our cost optimization efforts. Nevertheless, we have adjusted our guidance due to lower than forecasted parent demand primarily in North America and Europe where we have seen a parent demand decline in the first half in excess of 5% and this impact on group shipments. Lower-than-anticipated coking coal prices, including the impact on vertically integrated operations, lower premiums for high-quality iron ore concentrate and additional R&M spend, following production incidents during the first half. Secondly, moving on to our debt position, it gives you an expected investment in working capital and the payment of annual dividend, net debt is expected to increase in the second half to approximately $17 billion. The $15 billion medium-term net debt target is unchanged. Finally, 2013 CapEx is now expected to be approximately $3.7 billion, reflecting the increase at ArcelorMittal Mines Canada and the restart of our Monlevade project. That concludes our presentation. And now, we'd like to open the floor to your questions. Thank you.
[Operator Instructions] So we'll start off with the first question from Alex Haissl at Morgan Stanley. Alexander Haissl - Morgan Stanley, Research Division: It's Alex Haissl from Stanley. My first question is on your Canadian mine from the cost overruns. I mean basically, we have now one third cost overrun. Can you explain in more detail what was the main driver behind it, and why basically it's just visibility, very end of the process? Because clearly, the invested capital now per tonne is USD $200. At current prices, you make decent returns. But if my calculations are right, breakeven in terms of cost of capital is slightly below 100. If you can comment on what happened here, and what makes you more confident that nothing happens like in Liberia? And the second question is not on guidance, it's more on the cash flow. I mean you produced net debt in the first half by $5.6 billion and some $5.1 billion came from the offering, as well as the divestment. And now, $700 million came from working capital reduction, so underlying free cash flow generation was slightly negative. So my question is what's your source of cash? Would you consider more asset divestments going forward if underlying situation is not changing dramatically from the year?
So Alex, let me address your second question first. If you -- it's related to the first. So our CapEx in the first half also includes growth CapEx, right. So investing in the future. Out of the $3.7 billion, there's $1 billion in growth CapEx. So if you strip out growth CapEx, underlying free cash flow for the business is positive. Secondly, I do believe it is very aggressive to take our working capital effects, because working capital at the end of the day reflects how the business is doing. So it always acts like a buffer. In case volumes are falling like they had in the first half, you have working capital relief. In case prices are falling like they have in the first half, your working capital relieves. So in many ways, the working capital from a cash perspective buffers the falls or increases in EBITDA. So I think there are real working capital effects that are current. And therefore, we have been a free cash flow positive for the first half. I believe on an operating basis, including working capital. And if you strip out the investments we're making for the future, i.e., Canada and Liberia, we're even more positive on a free cash basis. So the underlying steel business and the mining business is healthy. In terms of the returns, I'll get Peter to start talking about it. And if I have any other further comments, I can chip in on the viability of our investments in our ArcelorMittal Mines Canada. Peter G. J. Kukielski: I think the primary question that you ask was related to the quarter's underlying and overrun in Canada. The primary cause really was construction contract productivity that we experienced in the region, especially in the winter in the latter stage of the project, which was quite a bit lower than we had anticipated. We were constructing at the same time as a couple of others were in the region, which strained the system, contracts the productivity resulted in extension of the schedule, which of course impacted indirect costs, such as camp and transportation costs. But construction is now practically complete, and the same contractor, as Mr. Mittal indicated, is being ramped up. How will this impact or what will do we do in Liberia differently? First, I should point out that the construction environment or the global construction environment is not nearly as saturated today as it was while we were completing the AMMC expansion. So that means that, that translates into a better construction skills available, but at the same time, we have substantially reinforced our [indiscernible] project management team both in terms of area project managers, overall project director, project controls staff. And we're working very, very closely with our contractor to make sure that there are complementary skills. But the lesson learned really is one of resource availability and project management expertise. And I'm absolutely confident that the team that we have in place for Liberia will deliver this successfully. Alexander Haissl - Morgan Stanley, Research Division: Okay, is there any operational risk in ramping up the volumes, or is everything on schedule here in terms of volumes? What would you get out now? Peter G. J. Kukielski: Yes, I think that the ramp-up is proceeding quite well. Initially, you always get a couple of hiccups associated with control systems and stuff like that. And we've had our fair share of hiccups in the last 6 weeks, but we're finding that as we progress now, we are, in fact, achieving quite sustained stability. I would say that over the course of the last couple of weeks, we've reached 75% of nameplate capacity on the first half line, and that's improving on a daily basis. The second half line will start up in the next couple of days, but the mill has already been debugged. So I anticipate that the ramp-up will, in fact, go quite smoothly.
We'll take the next question from Stephen from Goldman Sachs. Stephen Benson - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division: Firstly, in the quarter, it seems that the -- with the mining division, the shipment volumes throughout prices were broadly flat, yet the EBITDA was pretty much flat quarter-on-quarter as well. And we were expecting a slight growth in that EBITDA, and you've touched a little bit on the cost of the overall division. But specifically from Mont-Wright, assuming it's ramped up by year end, should we be expecting this $38 cash cost run rate for 2014? And the second question was just on the net debt target for year end 2013, does that factor in a possible bid for the ThyssenKrupp Alabama plant?
Yes, Steve, I don't think you can expect the $38 run rate immediately. But it certainly will be achieved in the course of the next year or so.
Great. Just on the mining profitability Q1 to Q2, I mean, you do recognize that even though volumes were increased, there was a price fall. On average, prices fell approximately $20 from $146 to about $127. And so that reflects -- affected the price cost. We've -- some of that effect was mitigated by better cost performance, some of it was mitigated by the like effects that we had in our contracts. In terms of our net debt target, I think we've always said that we do not believe that the construct of our bid causes a material impact on our net debt.
We'll take the next question from Mike Shillaker, Credit Suisse. Michael Shillaker - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: I've got 2 questions. Firstly, when I look at the way you're spreading out the year in growth and then I look at how you look at each half, you've got a very weak first half, but obviously, a reasonable acceleration in the second half, maybe down 5%, maybe up 4% to 5% in the second half of the year. Is this purely the second half base effect, or actually, are you experiencing a general underlying acceleration in the absolute as well in the second half of the year? And if that is the case, do you actually think there's scope for further price hikes to come after the summer? And my second question just when you look at the -- I think we always agree that you don't keep management gains, it's part of the business, but the super normal stuff you do. When you actually do the analysis, can you actually give us a sense of how much of the asset optimization gains, the 600 you actually think you've kept in the numbers?
Okay, Michael, in terms of the AOP, I think it's quite easy. You can do the math yourself. If you strip out the noncash dynamic delta hedge gains in the first half of 2012 and you strip it out in Q1, you will see 2 things. Number 1, compare first half 2012 to first half 2013, that's covering Europe results are $300 million plus better. This is in spite of first half 2013 having 2% lower shipments. So you can see that even though shipments are down 2%, so there's no volume positive impact, base EBITDA results are $300 million plus better. So that gets to you the fact that the AOP savings are seen very clearly in our performance. Just on your base effect, I'm sure others can comment on what they're seeing and their specific end markets. Maybe the big end market is North America or the America's, we should look in and comment on. In Europe, we are seeing a slightly stronger order intake into third quarter than we have in the past. Clearly, first half has been much weaker than we anticipated. I mean apparent steel consumption is down 5.7%. We're still forecasting apparent steel consumption in Europe to be negative for the year, but not at those levels, considerably less. So we're seeing a stronger second half than we have purely compared to previous times in the same period.
So I think in North America, it's somewhat similar pattern. We have been -- we have had really, for the last several years, a very strong automotive sector. So year-on-year, we continue to see good strength in that sector, and that's the most important end use market for our operations. In NAFTA, I think we see some weakness in other markets. Energy, I think we still have a longer term, quite bullish perspective on, but that's largely project driven. The projects have slowed down. There's various impacts. I think of the withdrawal of the stimulus that were connected to some political events at the end of last year. So the bright spot is clearly automotive, but we're within 5 points of the precrisis consumption level. We actually see consumption in the flat world market, at least being a bit lower in 2013 than in 2012. But I think that's also an inventory effect, and of course, low inventories, which we're seeing certainly in the distribution sector now. We will support some upside and pricing, if markets tighten it out. And we've seen that over the last 6 to 8 weeks in the U.S. Michael Shillaker - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: All right. I think you've just seen an ISM of 55 as well. What's the normal like between the ISM and that coming through in real demand?
Probably we're seeing that in maybe 2 to 3 months depending on the product.
We'll take the next question from Luc at Exane. Luc Pez - Exane BNP Paribas, Research Division: Two questions, if I may. First of all, if you could quantify the impact of the issues you've been placing in the U.S. with regards to the labor dispute and the production issues, if you have a ballpark number you can provide. Second one related to whether you have had recourse to a securitization as part of your working capital requirement reduction? And finally, with regards to net debt guidance, whether this include or not the disposal of Kalagadi in manganese, and if you could update us on that.
Just to give a bit more chapter and verse on the volume issues that we had, the production issues we had in the U.S. in the second quarter, we had several production problems in our operations in Indiana that basically affected blast furnaces. And we lost about 300,000 tonnes. I'm talking about short tonnes here in that case. And then we had the labor issues ultimately at our Burns Harbor plant where we lost about 250,000. So we lost, in total at a net level, about 550,000 tonnes of production. The impact on shipments though was much, much lower. We were able to pull, reduce inventories, about 280,000 tonnes. And we also sourced material from principally slabs from sister operations within the Flat Carbon Americas group. The slabs alone were about 165,000 tonnes. We also moved some orders around. So the shipments impact was less than 200,000 tonnes for that relative to a more substantial volume loss. We expect that to play out mainly in the second quarter, to some degree in the third quarter as well. And I should comment that I think the operation is actually running ahead of planned today. So knock on wood, these issues are behind us.
I would like to answer on net debt and [indiscernible]. So look, in terms of securitization, we don't provide a breakdown on a quarterly basis, but I can say that it's broadly flat. Maybe we can give the full details when we report on the results. I don't know if there's anything else in the net debt. And on Kalahari, clearly, whether Kalahari happens or not, it's not part of our net debt guidance primarily because the deal is signed, but it's just still subject to financing.
We'll take the next question from Alessandro Abate at JPMorgan. Alessandro Abate - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Just my 2 questions. One is related to Brazil and the effect of the FX, whether you're expecting an acceleration of the export from Brazil and if this can actually offset the weakness that you have relative to the U.S. dollar in terms of translation effect on your P&L? And the second one is related to the bids and the material cash outflow, always related to the part that you're going to take over carbon. Let's assume that you are the buyer of the assets, can we expect basically a cash outflow materially having an effect in H2 2013, or actually this is not included in your structure bid?
Okay, Alessandro, in terms of FX effects in Brazil, I think it's true for any such economy, at the end of the day, depreciating currency relative to the dollar increases the competitiveness of the asset base, as you may, inflation doesn't catch up immediately. We see some of that occur even in South Africa, where there was a weakness in Iran. We see some of that occurring in Brazil. In Brazil, the real weakness is much more recent. So the key aspect here is are we able to match the domestic sales prices in real to the dollar. That is still work-in-progress. If we're able to do that, then that will offset the translation effects because overall margins will be greater than the translation loss. So to the extent that we can increase prices in 3Q, that will be -- that would help our results. In terms of Alabama, I think there are a lot of questions on this, but as we have said previously due to the construct of our bid, I mean, we are providing our net debt guidance. We do not believe that our bid would materially change that. And that's true for the second half of the year as well. Alessandro Abate - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: And just one follow-up, if I may. A detail on Brazil because there is an article in the local press that the Brazilian government will not renew the benefits of the higher import tariffs on the series of products, including steel, that is set to expire in October. Do you have any news or maybe more light on that? Louis L. Schorsch: Yes, I can weigh in maybe building on what Adit just said. I think to date this year as the real has been weakening, of course, that does give us the opportunity to keep things stable to actually raise the prices in real terms, and that's been the case to date. What the future may hold is unclear. But we've actually -- we've seen prices go up in Brazil. It's hard to compensate for that. On the trade front and the regulatory environment there, I think there's 2 key elements and policy changes within the last year or so that improved the structure for the Brazilian steel producers. One is that they've eliminated or greatly reduced import incentives that were applied on the provincial level, and that is a very important event for us. The LETEC tariffs were always temporary. They're part of the Mercosur arrangement that they move from sector to sector. I don't think that those were -- had a big impact on our market. Those are the things that are being removed. The more fundamental issue is the elimination of these import incentives, which amounted to somewhat just shy of 10% in terms of the attractiveness of coming to the provinces that offered those benefits. So that's the bigger event, and I think that's -- if we can say anything, it's gone for good. That's gone for good. The more temporary LETEC arrangements will be removed, but I think it as always expected they'd be temporary, in fact, we don't see them as a significant event. Maybe one other point is I think that if you look at Brazil, the bigger long-term concern we have there, I think, is the competitiveness of that whole manufacturing sector. As you know, it's a relatively expensive place to operate today. And I think the real coming more in line with what would be purchasing power parity levels is just a plus for our customer base and longer-term, that's probably a much bigger event than what happens quarter-to-quarter and month-to-month with our pricing opportunities.
We'll take the next question from Tony Rizzuto at Cowen and Co. Anthony B. Rizzuto - Cowen Securities LLC, Research Division: I've got 2 questions. The first question is in regards to the Chinese dynamics. You had indicated that you see a current steel consumption of about 4.5% to 5.5% for the full year. So far this year, it seems to be far outpaced by crude steel production. And as you alluded to, the inventory data doesn't appear to indicate that inventories or building have actually been coming down, but is possible that inventories could be building elsewhere that are not so transparent? That's my first question. And then my follow-up on a question I think that was asked of Lou, are you concerned about the supply increasing at the time of widening spreads? And how will that likely affect the steel price structure in the United States? Louis L. Schorsch: So if I understood the question, a concern whether there's a supply concern, let's say for the pricing environment in the U.S. I think if you look back at the entire year, we were actually a little bit puzzled that prices were seemingly relatively depressed in the first quarter and into the second quarter. So I think we had expected we would have been higher earlier in the year. The fact that we've recovered now is certainly good news for us, but it really is relatively consistent with our expectations. And, in fact, if you -- if we look at our -- at stock price levels today, they're very, very close to what we expected when we put together our business plan for this year. The pattern now is different that they were lower in the first part of the year than we expected, and we're compensating for that today. So I think the underlying demand and supply conditions support the level that we're at now. The concern is always is that we're in a global market. All these prices move together. There's arbitrage opportunities. There's a lag of several months if prices get out of line for imports to go up or go down, depending on the direction of that arbitrage opportunity. But that's the issue, I think, much more so than the underlying supply and demand conditions in the U.S. Clearly, we have an event with an ongoing strike at -- or lock out everyone at Lake Erie works of U.S. steel. And in Canada -- but that's a -- about 2% kind of event in the overall markets, so -- and as I mentioned, in our case, although we had a lot of issues on the production side, there's crude steel, the shipments impact for us in Q2 was relatively modest because the ways that we were able to compensate for that.
On China, despite that the GDP growth has slowed down in the first half, what we have noticed there, FNC consumption in the first half grew by 8.5% year-on-year, which is a very strong growth of crude steel. And for the year -- for the whole year, we expect 5.8%. We have increased our consumption rate in China, a growth by -- from 4.25% to 5.8%. And what happened in the first half -- because if you want, we could also see from the raw material price, specifically iron ore price, that everyone was expecting that the iron ore prices would drop in the second half, so there has been also destocking in the first half of this year. But since the demand continued to grow and there had been a strong production, we are seeing that the iron ore prices have not dropped as much as everyone was expecting and still it is moving around $130, $128, and -- which means that now, there will be some restocking, and though the second half, we believe that the market will slow down, but iron ore prices will stay around $115 to $120 to $130. And they could be slowed down over the first half, but it's still the average growth will be about 5.8%.
We'll take the next question from Carsten Riek of UBS. Carsten Riek - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division: One question on the African volumes, because I noticed that the production was actually up, but shipments down. Is that entirely a time like effect from the inventories as they have been affected by the fire in the Vanderbijlpark? That's the first one. The second one goes back to your free cash flow. What I've noticed is that receivables and payables moved actually in different direction, freeing around $1.2 billion in cash. Is that one of the reasons why you're actually more cautious towards the yearend with the net debt guidance because usually we see free cash flow release in the second half compared to the first half?
Okay, I'll start with the first one. If you remember in the first quarter, with the fire, we lost about 350 kts. We tried to mitigate that by, on one side, reducing stock, on the other side, we had imports of slabs. So we don't see -- when we compare those quarters, it doesn't mean that in the first quarter, we lost completely those tonnes. So the 350 kt, at least we compensated 150 kt. Now also in the second quarter, we see slower demand in flat products, that is clear. Second, we did not want to increase our order book with exports because we wanted to attend our domestic market. Additionally, to that third and very important reason, we did see imports. When we had the fire, many of our customers got sort of nervous and said there could be a problem of production, but then we were able to reduce this impact, instead of 3 months, 2 months. So we have seen imports. So it's a combination of our mitigation plan in the first quarter and the 3 reasons for the second quarter: slower demand, lower exports and increased imports.
In terms of working capital, we have a release norm in the first half. Even if you looked at the first half of 2012, you would see that in the second quarter, working capital release was $1.381 billion. This quarter, it's $1.272 billion, so slightly less than last year first -- second quarter. I mean, last year first half was approximately $1.1 billion release, and this year is roughly $700 million. So the way we work is we build up because of either the Great Lakes, as well as we build stock in the second half because we produce less so that we can ship more in the first half. So that's a natural operating cycle that we have. I agree with you, the working capital performance in the second quarter from a days perspective was very low. I believe the team is doing an exceptional job. I do not expect that, that level will be sustained into the second half, partially because we will be rebuilding for the winter months and partially because maybe some of this efficiency is lost as volumes pick up a bit.
We'll take the next question from Ross [ph] at Kepler Cheuvreux.
Briefly back on the U.S. market, I think you commented on the situation in the second quarter there, can you -- as far as I know, there is a further outage at Cleveland now, which has a scheduled standstill. How are the incidents in the second quarter impacting your ability to compensate for the blast furnace shutdown in Cleveland? Do you still have enough inventories in your system to mitigate for the volume loss, which is obviously -- I think the blast furnace, it was obviously down for 2.5 months? The second question is on your reduced guidance, can you work out a little bit the various components where you have taken a more cautious stance? All in all, you're revising by $600 million, and when I take the lower coal price, I'm getting to maybe $100 million effect, and if I take the slightly low volume, I'm also getting to some $100 million effect. Could you elaborate what the outage incidents in the U.S. were contributing to the guidance provision? And what are the other bits and pieces, as obviously you're not taking a new stance on the iron ore price? Louis L. Schorsch: I think on the Cleveland realign, that's been planned for quite a while, and I think we expect fully to be able to compensate for that without any interruption in our ability to ship. One of the reasons we were able to compensate for the shortfall we had in Q2 because as I mentioned that the first part of the year was weaker than people had expected and we actually were building inventory over that period, anticipating that the market could turn around at any time rather than straddling back on furnaces or even idling furnaces. So we had a bit more inventory when we went into these production problems, blind luck on some levels, but we were able to use that as the major internal source for compensating for that. And, of course, as you know, we're the largest slab supplier to the global market in the world. We always have that option, and we drew on that option with this production shortfall that's part of the solution also for Cleveland potentially that we can source slabs from Mexico or from Brazil. That means that we ship less into markets in particularly in East Asia, but those are frankly not very profitable markets anyway. So the impact on the results for the company are de minimis. So I think we expect to complete that realign, the parts are all there, the plans are in place, et cetera, on schedule, on time, no disruption on our shipment capability.
In terms of the guidance, if you just -- let's start with the 2 effects primarily. As you said, volume and raw materials, our numbers are higher. For volumes, we are seeing $300 million, so let me break that down for you. We believe we had lost 1% of shipment. This is for 2013. That's roughly, let's say, 900,000 tonnes or 1 million tonnes, and that's because of weakness in Europe and in North America. We believe the opportunity lost on the shipments is about $200-plus per tonne, which means it's roughly $200 million. The costs that we have incurred in South Africa, as well as in the U.S., we estimate them at $100 million. So if you look at the shipment loss plus the $100 million higher cost in U.S. and South Africa, we get to about $300 million. When we look on the raw material side, this is as per what we had budgeted internally, coal prices are much lower than what we had budgeted. Our budgets, on an average basis, were higher. So we produce about 8 million tonnes, a lot of this is to our -- some of this is marketable, some of this is into our operations. So if you take the aggregate of 8 million and you multiply that by $20 or $30, you get anywhere from $160 million to $250 million. The last effect is the IODEX premier, most of our tonnages are sold at 65% Fe plus, and you had seen the premier decline by about $0.80, and that has had some effect. So those are how we get to roughly a $600 million impact, which has led us to revise our guidance.
We'll take the next question from Jeff Largey at Macquarie. Jeffrey R. Largey - Macquarie Research: Two questions. The first one is just about the guidance and outlook. Given the price hikes we've seen both in the U.S. and Europe recently, is there any chance that you'll capture those price hikes in the third quarter, or whether they'll kind of lag into the fourth quarter in terms of the impact on margins?
I think the price hikes mostly will come in September. So the impact on the first quarter will not be that significant. I don't know, Lou, if there's anything you want to say. Louis L. Schorsch: No, I think we'll get -- because the increases started earlier in the States and then North America will capture them earlier. But I want to caution that we have 10% to 15% of our production that's connected to the index contracts, but are lagged a quarter. So that's an offsetting effect as we go into Q3 because those are based on Q2 prices, which for most of the quarter -- April and May were relatively low. Jeffrey R. Largey - Macquarie Research: Okay, that's helpful. And just a quick second question, I think you've, to a large extent, answered it, but a couple of days ago, you had the Chairman of Nucor making some comments that everyone had dropped out of the bidding for the ThyssenKrupp Steel Americas plants. Can I just confirm based on your comments that the bidding is still alive and well? And I guess, the final point is, if you had to compare the rolling mill in Alabama to a car, what type of car would you compare it to?
I can't comment on what Dan Dimicco has commented. [indiscernible] confirm, otherwise this is still an active process, and we are bound by the confidentiality. So we really cannot comment much more on this at this time. But we have always said, Jeff, you can read in my earlier statement that Alabama is an effective, as well as a growing market. So we have appetite but at the same time, Adit has clarified that if this transaction have been different, then it will have a minimal impact on our balance sheet.
We'll take the next question from Dave Katz at JPMorgan. David Adam Katz - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: I apologize if the questions have been asked before, my phone's been cutting in and out. On the expansion in Brazil, it's an interesting change of pace that you're going after steel expansion again. I heard you say earlier in the call that you wouldn't do a large ramp-up of steel CapEx until the net debt target has been realized and market conditions have been achieved. But do you anticipate undertaking additional projects on a small basis? And if so, what regions do you think that would be central in?
So in fact, what we are doing in Brazil is -- so we have the project to increase capacity by 1.1 million, but we have decided only to restart Phase 1, which is, in fact, going for the rolling mill, which is, in fact, an investment of $180 million. Basically it gives us a little bit more steel capacity and it gives us more rolling capacity. And the reason why we are doing it is that simply, that we are today running full in Brazil that we feel that the market is quite good and that we have the customer base indeed to catch up. And so, from that point of view, the aim is really to be on the market, to be with our customers, to be with our market share by the end of 2015. Second step will then come, and that will be a separate appreciation. We will get some more internal SMEs to supply for that rolling mill, and then we will decide to go further on. And when we will decide, we will let you know.
I just want to add one small point on -- in terms of global steel CapEx allocation. I think we've talked about this in our Investor Day as well. We are focused on our franchise business, which is automotive. So we continue to make smaller CapEx to enlarge our franchise and compete effectively, and those will be investments in North America, as well as in Europe. We do see growth opportunity in Mexico, as well as in Brazil, and so I think we're making the first step in Brazil. And I think your statement that significant increase in steel CapEx would have to wait until we achieve our net debt target. But these are franchise businesses, and we need to continue to invest in them to capture the market opportunity.
We'll take the next question from Neil Sampat at Nomura. Neil Sampat - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division: I had 2 questions. Firstly, just to clarify a question earlier on the North American production disruptions that have taken place, did you expect shipments to come back -- the kind of 300,000 tonnes or 250,000 tonnes that were lost to come back in Q3, or is it over Q3 and Q4? And am I right in interpreting the comment regarding guidance coming down and the cost in South Africa and the U.S. being roughly $100 million of that to imply that the actual direct costs of those disruptions in the U.S., which is just over $30 million? And then secondly, a question on AACIS, and can you just give us an update as to how the cost reductions there are progressing, are we going to see any of that hit the P&L in the second half of this year? And is there potential for some sort of restructuring of the production footprint there?
So in terms of the guidance, we talked about the direct cost impact, not the volume impact. The volume impact is also captured, and it declined in iron and steel [ph] consumption. So Lou went through how we have offset a lot of the volume cost impact through a drawdown on slabs, as well as the purchase of slab inventory in other parts of the world. In terms of recovering the 200,000 tonnes in the second half... Louis L. Schorsch: Yes, I think we're planning to recover a good chunk of it. But I think our current expectation as of the -- there'll still be some loss, maybe 100,000 tonnes, and we're reducing to that level. But I think -- and that should happen really most -- some -- maybe some in Q4, but most in Q3 is the program resolve [ph] versus normal plans that we would -- business plan and forecast that we have in place.
Gonzalo, we have any update on construction plan?
Gonzalo Pedro Urquijo Fernandez de Araoz
Yes, Mr. Mittal. Now for third quarter, what we plan is, as we've seen an improvement from Q1 to Q2 continue with that improvement [indiscernible], as Lou Schorsch said. So we do see that intermittent, we should see improving cost going forward, also in activity where we did lose around 100 kt this quarter from some oxygen issues. Now we are concerned, South Africa will be somewhat different because I have to tell you that in South Africa, the third quarter is winter, it's a high month of electricity. So we do have somewhat higher cost. And we do continue in our reliability program, which is already rendered this quarter its first -- had a good result, and we hope to continue in that sense and continue improving our cost base, as we've done in Q2. Neil Sampat - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division: Is there any scope to do anything a bit more dramatic in terms of the production footprint there?
Gonzalo Pedro Urquijo Fernandez de Araoz
Well, we've announced in South Africa the close of the electric furnaces, that is number one. And as for activity of Kazakhstan, we don't think so. We have to continue working hard on our cost, that is on our labor, on our energies, all our transformation cost. That's where we are very focusing on. And as we think back, if you say dramatic, no. I would say more, it's a day to day on reliability and reducing our transformation cost and improving also with our mining ore [ph] cost.
We'll take the next question from Cedar Ekblom of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Cedar Ekblom - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division: Two quick questions. Firstly, in the U.S. market, can you give us an indication of what you're seeing on the import side? We've seen these prices go up, but from here, what's the trajectory? And with the prices rising, has that simply been to full real demand, or has there been any restocking actually going on? That's the first question. And then the second question, again, on the guidance, you probably don't want it. But it feels like you guys are low-balling it a little bit, if I'm missing something, because if I take your first half EBITDA and I simplistically say that shipments need to be flat in order to get to the bottom half of your 1% to 2% shipment growth in 2013 and I look at some cost cuts coming through in the second half of the year from the AOP and from the management gains, I think we've got increase in mining volumes, that $6.5 billion feels pretty conservative. Am I missing something there?
Lou, on the pricing? Louis L. Schorsch: Yes, I think we have not seen -- I think third and then fourth, I think there's always the concern when you see prices moving ahead in 1 region versus in another. Currently, I think the spread, it is about $175 a metric tonne between North American price levels, stock price levels and what we see export prices out of China, let's say, which would be the low-end there. And that's probably a bit higher than is a sustainable figure, but we've also seen the Chinese prices come up, but I think as we see there, prices come up, but we provide some support for that pricing level. So I think we're always [indiscernible] we know that we need to be competitive on a world basis, and we're not seeing the imports flow in now, but with that kind of opportunity, you'd probably see some balancing between those prices over time. How that plays out, we'll just have to see.
Okay. Cedar, in terms of guidance, we wish we were low-ball, but this is our most accurate forecast of what we're seeing in the business today. Just to perhaps what we are seeing in a broader perspective, I think when we start the second half of this year, we're starting from a much lower base of steel pricing compared to where we were in Jan. [ph] So that's why I think a lot of the discussion has been on what do we see in terms of price increases both in Europe and in the North America. Second, when we say average iron ore prices of $1.30, the first half was at $1.35 because Q1 was at $1.47. So when we say average of $1.30, we're implying iron ore prices of about $1.25. So a weaker iron ore price environment clearly does affect some of the EBITDA for mining, but that's offset by the increase in volumes. Then the others are just the effects you see normally in the second half. I mean, we do have higher maintenance costs, as well as there is some impact of August and December in terms of volumes. But fundamentally, I think the 2 key drivers why saying that we should achieve a similar amount of EBITDA in the second half is plausible is primarily because of the other factors you talked about like AOP, management gain, recovery in these end markets, offset by base steel pricing, as well as our assumption of base ore pricing. Cedar Ekblom - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division: Okay, so would it be fair to say that x AOP and management gain savings, you wouldn't be expecting to see any margin expansion in your Steel business? But obviously on a relative basis versus your peer group because you think you're doing more, you would get the margin expansion that no one else will, in an improving demand environment?
Well, to be honest, I have not thought about it that way, so I have to think about it a bit more before I can answer that. But generally, yes -- so I think generally, what we have talked about is we have AOP, we have management gains benefits. A lot of the AOP benefits, though, is in the first half. So we talked about in the second quarter we have achieved the savings in excess of $1 billion already. There are some residual costs in the system. They're not that significant. They're less than 20% of the total AOP savings, that's for $1 million [ph]. I don't see a significant chunk of that coming out in the beginning of the second half, perhaps towards the end. And when we talked about Flat Carbon Europe, Flat Carbon Europe results do not represent 100% of the AOP, right. So I was just giving Michael an example, which is the largest example of how you can clearly see in the EBITDA the results, but there has been AOP effects both in AMDS, as well as in the Long Europe segment. So a lot of the AOP has been done, management gains is continuing. That's going to be a powerful driver of results [indiscernible].
Okay, we've got about another 5 minutes here. So we'll take the next question from Bastian of Deutsche Bank. Bastian Synagowitz - Deutsche Bank AG, Research Division: Two quick ones. The first one on FCE for this year. I guess, we've seen there is more positive signal from truck orders, which is usually a good leading indicator for auto, and you are the largest player in this market. Is there any sign in your order book or also from your discussions with clients supporting this trend? And then the second question is on iron ore shipment. I saw that the internal share and the absolute number of market price shipments has reached a record level, although the market price shipments overall, I think, were below last year's level. Could you please give us a bit of color on the reason for that, and whether your marketing strategy is working according to plan?
Yes, automotive, I think second quarter marked a 20-year low. We're not seeing a change in the order book. We are seeing a stronger order book in the third quarter, which I talked about earlier, but that's not coming necessarily from the automotive side. It's just a general market environment. Because I think [indiscernible] of consumption will be less weak in the second half than in the first half. So there's a smaller restock occurring. In terms of iron ore shipments, I think overall marketable shipments are up, right, whether you look at first half 2012 versus first half 2013 or even the second half, and they will continue to rise. We expect marketable shipments to be 20% higher. You're right, a larger portion of these shipments are going to ArcelorMittal. I think some of this reflects the fact that we have better order flows and a more stable production in Europe. And we're able to avail of the Liberian material, which we were not availing of before. And as we ramp up our production capabilities in a more stable manner in Europe, we can utilize some of the internally [indiscernible] market price tonnes of iron ore. And if you just...
Gonzalo Pedro Urquijo Fernandez de Araoz
The only other thing that I would add is exactly that -- I mean, shipments are for, let's say, Q-on-Q from last year to this year are roughly flat. But remember, AMC expansion is ramping up right now, and that goes straight into the marketable tonnages. And Liberia performance is actually very good now, and it's anticipated that will continue to improve as well.
Okay, so we'll have to take the last question now from Alex Hauenstein at MainFirst. Alexander Hauenstein - MainFirst Bank AG, Research Division: Just one. Could you provide us with an idea of the last -- your EBITDA losses in Liege, Florange [indiscernible], please? Just some idea on the EBITDA level, that would be helpful.
I don't think we -- it's significantly negative, as you can imagine, on an EBITDA basis, and that represents the lion's share of the AOP savings. We have provided to some of the unions EBIT numbers, but I don't think at this point in time we want to get into the discussion on what was a profitability of Liege and Florange. What I would say is that based on the asset optimization program and based on how we're optimizing the footprint and what we intend to do with these facilities, assuming we execute the industrial plan, we intend to make these facilities EBITDA positive, therefore sustainable in the new asset configuration. So we will not be [indiscernible].
Okay, so because that question is quite brief, I think we can squeeze one more question in from Tom O'Hara at Citigroup. Thomas Joseph O'Hara - Citigroup Inc, Research Division: Just a question, in Q1 you spoke about potentially doing some asset optimization in Eastern Europe. Is that still something you're looking at, and are there any further developments on that front?
Yes, Tom, we're still looking at it. There are no developments to report. In Eastern Europe, the AOP program would be over a few years, so the savings would be over a few years. They will not be like the Western Europe, where we could see the savings quite quickly primarily because we have to do more work in terms of the asset configuration to achieve those savings. And therefore, it requires some work on our side to prepare the asset base before we can take those actions. Secondly, in terms of the quantum of savings, the quantum of savings will not be that significant primarily because the fixed cost base in Eastern Europe, because wages are lower, it's not that high. And clearly, we will optimize Eastern Europe over a period of time because the demand patterns there are still evolving, as it is a growth market. So I think that basically covers it. I just wanted to make 1 point, I think this question was asked right in the beginning, perhaps, and I just want to answer the viability of ArcelorMittal Mine Canada to the cost overrun. It's $1.6 billion for 8 million tonnes, that's $200 per tonne. [indiscernible] requires 15%, that's about $30 per tonne of cash profit. Knowing the cost structure, the quality capability of that product, clearly that return is still achievable on a long-term basis.
So this concludes our call this quarter, and looking forward to talk to you again. Since we -- there may be still a lot many questions but, since -- in view of the time constraint, we are closing the call now. But if you have any questions, you can always call Daniel on his line. Thank you very much, and enjoy the summer holidays.