Montrose Environmental Group, Inc. (MEG) Q4 2013 Earnings Call Transcript
Published at 2014-02-27 17:00:00
Welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2013 Media General Incorporated Earnings Conference Call. My name is Ellen, and I will be your operator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Lou Anne Nabhan. Ms. Nabhan, you may begin. Lou Anne J. Nabhan: Thank you, Ellen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Media General's Fourth Quarter 2013 Conference Call and Webcast. Earlier this morning, we announced fourth quarter and full year 2013 results. The press release is on our website. A transcript of comments from today's call will be posted immediately after the call, and a replay also will be available. Today's presentation contains forward-looking statements. They are subject to various risks and uncertainties. They should be understood in the context of the company's publicly available report filed with the SEC, including the section on Risk Factors. Media General's future performance could differ materially from its current expectations. Our speakers today are George Mahoney, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Woodward, Senior Vice President, Finance, and Chief Financial Officer. I'll turn the presentation over to George now. George L. Mahoney: Thank you, Lou Anne. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for tuning in. We are very pleased to be able to give you this morning, the first installment report on the new Media General. A lot has happened since our last third quarter call on October 31. Specifically, less than 2 weeks after our last quarterly call, we closed on our all-stock merger with Young Broadcasting. We said then that the November 12, tax-free combination of our 2 companies would be immediately accretive to free cash flow, and we talked about our strong balance sheet and attractive synergies. And soon after the closing of the merger, we paid off all the existing debt of both companies using new credit facilities we'd arranged over the summer. This refinancing lowered our annualized cash interest expense by about $36 million compared to both companies pre-merger costs. And our good performance and the strong balance sheet we mentioned now has allowed us to deliver on the net leverage we promised. When we announced the merger, we estimated leverage at 4.3x by the end of 2013. In fact, we closed out 2013 at 4.27x. We also have promised $30 million of total operating and financing synergies when we announced the merger. And we said they'd we realized in 12 to 15 months from the closing. Today, our projected synergies stands at $44 million, including $29 million of financing synergies and at least $15 million of operating synergies. We believe the operating synergies will go higher. Let me pause for a moment to give you an overview of our company. We own or operate 31 network-affiliated television stations in 28 markets. Our stations reach 16.5 million, or 14%, of all U.S. TV households. We operated across the full range of market sizes, from San Francisco, the sixth largest DMA, to Rapid City, South Dakota at #173. Eight of our stations operate in the top 50 markets, and an additional 14 stations are located in the top 100 television markets. Our merger provides new geographic breadth and diversity, better shielding us from the impact of any particular region or local economy. The merger additionally balances our network affiliations. In addition to this portfolio diversification, our larger size, of course, increases our buying power and our negotiating leverage with vendors and others. All of our stations have earned excellent reputations as leading local content providers. Local is the name of the game for us. Our stations rank #1 or 2 in more than 60% of the 28 markets, in which they operate. In this election year, our presence in 7 battleground states provides a strong opportunity for political advertising. Media General legacy stations already operated in Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, and Ohio. We've now added Young stations in Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin. In 2014, there are 7 open Senate seats nationwide. Four of those races are in states where we operate: Georgia, Iowa, Michigan, and South Dakota. Additionally, we expect hotly contested Senate races in our markets in Louisiana, North Carolina, and Tennessee. There also will be 2 Senate races in South Carolina where we have a large presence. Further, in this even-numbered year, we expect 7 competitive gubernatorial races in our states of Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. And we'll benefit from competitive house races in a number of our districts. One current example is a special March '11 election in Tampa, Florida to fill the seat of the late congressman Bill Young. You're also reading almost daily about the strong audience and advertiser response to event programming, especially in sports. And in this, our 9 NBC stations have benefited nicely from the 2014 Olympics in Sochi. Legacy Media General had 8 NBC stations, and we've now added a very strong NBC affiliate in Davenport, Iowa. In the 2010 Winter Olympics, our combined total revenues were $7.8 million. This year, we beat that amount by nearly 50% for a total of $11.6 million. Sochi was very good for Media General. And there's more of this in store. The merger allowed us to add 4 CBS stations to our Legacy Media General count of 8. And for that reason particularly, we're delighted CBS has been selected by the NFL to air 8 more games on Thursday nights in the fall. In the nearer term, our 12 CBS stations already are seeing strong advertiser interest in the March Madness, NCAA basketball tournament beginning next month and running into early April. A huge driver of our industry's consolidation has been the quest for increased retransmission revenues. With our 31-station group, we're participating more effectively than ever before in the rising retrans market. In 2013, our retransmission revenues reached $94 million. That's up from $65 million in 2012. And this year, we expect to increase our retransmission revenues by more than 40%. We also have strong and growing digital and mobile platforms for all of our stations. Here again, size matters. With our merger, we have the infrastructure, the products, and people in place to grow audience and revenue at an accelerating rate. A year ago, we talked about increasing our digital revenues by numbers that were in the teens. We delivered more than that. Today, our expectations are growing, and our 2014 expectations exceed 20%. So as I said, we're very pleased to bring you this first installment report on the new Media General. We're delivering exactly as we promised. And now I'd like to turn this over to Jim, who will discuss some highlights of 2013, and provide additional perspective on our expectations for 2014. James F. Woodward: Thank you, George, and Good morning. I'll first provide some highlights for the full year 2013 that I think will be helpful as you build your models for 2014. Before I begin, let me explain that in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, the merger was accounted for as a reverse acquisition. While Media General Inc. is the legal acquirer, and the name of the combined entity for financial reporting purposes, the historical financial statements of Young, which was deemed the accounting acquirer, are now the historical financial statements of the new Media General. Consequently, the official consolidated financial statements reported in our press release, this morning, included the Young operating results for periods prior to November 12, 2013. That means that these results do not include most of legacy Media General's results in 2013 or any in 2014, I mean, 2012. Because legacy Media General results represent more than half of the combined company's net operating revenue and broadcast cash flow, we appended supplemental combined company information to the press release. The as adjusted results provide information for the combined company by including legacy Media General revenues and expenses for the period prior to November '12. No adjustments were made to this data. It was simply added together. The combined figures in the supplemental information do not include any of the financing or operating synergies created by the merger. This supplemental combined information does not purport to be indicative of what would have happened had the merger occurred at the beginning of 2013, nor is it indicative of results that may occur in the future. However, we think the supplemental information on the combined company will be helpful to you. In addition, to the extent you want to build any prior year's perspective into your models, you will find a wealth of historical information in the 8-K we filed on January 29, 2014, and other SEC filings related to the merger and in previous Media General earnings release. My comments are going to focus on the combined company using the numbers reported in the supplemental combined company information in our press release. For the full year 2013, as expected, net operating revenue decreased from 2012 as a result of the near absence of 2012's record political revenue. Net operating revenue in 2013 was $543.5 million compared with $587.9 million in 2012. Political revenue in 2014 was $113.4 million compared with $7.9 million in 2013, a $105 million difference. Local gross time sales increased to $313.5 million in 2013 compared with $309.1 million in 2012. National gross time sales also increased in 2013 to $152.3 million from $146.4 million in '12. Total core gross sales increased 2.3% over 2012. Retransmission revenue in 2013 was $94 million compared with the $65 million in 2012. Digital revenue was $19.6 million in 2013 compared with $15.7 million in 2012, a 25% increase. Operating income for the full year 2013, excluding merger-related expenses was $81.4 million. Full year depreciation and amortization for 2013 was $45.1 million, so full year EBITDA adjusted for merger-related expenses was approximately $126.5 million. In 2013, a non-political year, broadcast cash flow was $175.3 million. We continue to focus intently on increasing our broadcast cash flow and BCF margin and particularly when comparing odd-numbered years to odd years and even-numbered years to even. I'll next provide our current outlook for 2014. As George indicated, political revenues are expected to be robust. Combined political revenues in 2012 were $113 million and in 2010 were $69 million. While we are not making a specific forecast today, we believe political revenues will be greater than 2010, due to the number of competitive races in our markets that George detailed and expected heavy issues spending this year. Retransmission revenues should increase by more than 40% depending on the subscriber accounts compared with retransmission revenues of $94 million in 2013. Digital revenues are expected to increase by more than 20% from the $19.6 million in 2013. Expenses will increase in 2014, in particular to employee salary and benefits cost and for fees paid to networks. The major component of fees paid to networks is reverse compensation, which in 2014 is expected to be approximately $50 million compared with as adjusted $34 million in 2013. Corporate and other expenses in 2014 are expected to be in the range of $37 million to $38 million, with core corporate expense accounting for approximately 1/2 of the total. The remainder is primarily incentive compensation and non-cash stock-based compensation. In 2014, we expect the interest expense to be approximately $39 million. At December 31, 2013, the company had $681 million of net operating loss or NOL carry forwards. These NOLs are available to offset future income, enhancing our free cash flow. Capital expenditures are expected to be $41 million in 2014 as we accelerate and complete the remaining build out of HD ensuring that all of our stations at HD from end-to-end. We will also make investments in our product that we expect will grow our audience and market share. This level of capital spending is unique to 2014, and beginning in 2015 and subsequent years, we expect capital spending to return to normal run rate of $15 million to $20 million. To recap our debt, as George reported, after the merger closed, we repaid the existing term loans for Media General and Young, including call premiums transaction fees and expenses. We also redeemed our 11 3/4% senior notes, which completed the refinancing process. This refinancing lowered annualized cash interest expense by about $36 million compared to both company's pre-merger interest costs. As we said before, we planned to use $50 million from the new credit facility for contributions to qualified retirement plans. In 2013, we contributed $6.2 million, and we expect to contribute $46 million in 2014, $45 million of which has already been made from cash on the balance sheet at year end. Lastly, and before I turn it back to George, our net leverage as of December 31, 2013, as defined in our credit agreement, was 4.27x based on adjusted pro forma of 2012, '13 average year EBITDA of $199.4 million. The maximum leverage per our credit agreement is 5.5x. And as George reported, our year-end net leverage was better than the 4.3x we projected when we announced the merger. We expect 2014 to be a very good year, and I look forward to sharing our results with you in future calls. And now, I'll turn it back to George. George L. Mahoney: Thank you, Jim. Before we move to questions, I'd like to add that we're making excellent progress with the integrations of Media General and Young. With our values, management team, and stations aligned, and working together, we're sharing and quickly assimilating the best of what each company brought to our merger. I am very proud of everything we're accomplishing and all that it portends, and it means the new Media General is well-positioned to increase shareholder value. We've also said we expect to be an acquirer in our industry's continuing consolidation. That continues to be the case. And now, we'll be pleased to take your questions.
[Operator Instructions] The first question is from David Cohen with Midwood Capital. David E. Cohen: I was wondering if you could give a sense of your expectations for growth potential in the core in 2014. George L. Mahoney: Yes, David. We're looking for '14 to be quite strong. It started well with January and February especially with the Olympics numbers. March is looking good, we don't have a whole lot of view into the second quarter yet. But we don't see any clouds on the horizon. And as you probably saw in the Journal this morning, there's a front-page story about the housing market and the improvements in the housing market, prices up 10%, sales up nearly 10%. I learned a long time ago the importance of housing on the broadcast industry and on the economy on consumer spending, on confidence, and so we're looking for a real strong year and political on top of that and it should be a blockbuster for Media General. David E. Cohen: And having the strong translate [ph] for 2.2% in 2014 over -- on an adjusted basis over '12. You think you do significantly better than that? I mean is it 5% growth potential? George L. Mahoney: I don't think we're going to put a number on it, David. David E. Cohen: Okay. And then, on -- from an expense standpoint, the reverse comp that you highlighted, the $34 million, I presume that's in your station operating expense? Is that correct? George L. Mahoney: That's correct. David E. Cohen: So if I take that out and I -- then you're roughly $162 million of station operating expenses, excluding that particular cost element. What sort of growth or expansion of that adjusted cost base would you anticipate? So you -- you did say the expenses should grow, I just want to bracket the rate of growth. George L. Mahoney: We expect them to grow in the low single digits. David E. Cohen: That's excluding the reverse comp? George L. Mahoney: Yes.
The next question is from Barry Lucas with Gabelli & Company. Barry L. Lucas: Just a couple of quickies. Jim, do you have an actual share count at year-end? James F. Woodward: No. I don't think I have that. The actual share count at year end, I don't know if I have that with me, Barry. Barry L. Lucas: Okay. What if you look into that, George, maybe you could talk a little bit or provide a little bit of color on categories? Where was auto on a combined adjusted basis in the fourth quarter and what are you seeing in that important category in 1Q? George L. Mahoney: Happy to do that, Barry. Fourth quarter was strong for us in all of our top 5 categories. Auto was up double digits, health was up strong double digits, retail and fast food also were up. So it was a really good quarter for us on all of that. And as you can imagine, Q1 is going in the same kind of way with especially with the Olympics and that creates a lot of noise, but with the Olympics, auto is up very strong, health is up again, home improvements up, groceries up. It's been a real good quarter. Barry L. Lucas: Okay. And maybe bigger picture, George. Since you've indicated previously and again today that Media General is a potential acquirer. What are you seeing in the M&A pipeline? And given your proximity to Washington in the last couple of articles in the Wall Street Journal regarding sidecar arrangements, how do you view the regulatory environment, and what effect that may have on your desire or lack thereof to buy additional stations? George L. Mahoney: Well, we're not seeing anything slowing down at all in the M&A market. But there's a fair bit of activity out there. It does not seem to be impacted by the SEC and any changes that they might make in the regulatory world. I think that it will come to pass, the people will understand that JSAs are good for consumers and they're good for localism. If there are regulatory changes, we know the broadcasters will adopt your practices and adapt. So we don't see anything that's happening at the SEC as anything that we should be particularly worried about.
The next question is from Harper Stephens with Thompson Davis Asset Management.
If one of you could comment on any plans to shares held by the Young holders. Is there an orderly planned exit or is there any lockup in place? Can you comment on that at all? George L. Mahoney: Yes, we sure can. James you want to take that? James F. Woodward: Yes. There's a lockup in place that extends to mid-May. And there's is the opportunity for registered offering in between now and then.
Okay, any timing on that or is it up to them? George L. Mahoney: Yes, we're talking to bankers. We've filed the S-3, and we're getting ready, we're on track to do that -- for the specific timing, no.
The next question is from Matthew Dodson with JWEST LLC.
Just real quick. If you can help us understand your retran revenues gone up 40%, but your retrans fees has actually gone up faster than that? Why is that? Can you help us understand that? George L. Mahoney: Sure, Matthew. Retrans fees are going up as a result of contracts negotiated during 2013, particularly at the end of 2013. And so what you see happening in 2014 at the end of 2014 is more of the reverse comp for networks beginning to kick in at the end of the year. That's it.
So, down the road, we still expect the retrans fee to grow faster than your actual retran revenue? George L. Mahoney: No, I mean, I think all of those things even out. And as you know, retrans revenues have been very healthy and growing at a very healthy pace. We expect that to continue. The retrans reverse comp ultimately, we think, will even out at about a 50-50 kind of a number, and so we've been very fortunate. There are CBS contracts with the legacy Media General stations, have not kicked in, and we are not giving any reverse comp to CBS at this point. But, as I said, that will change as we get through this year and go into '15.
[Operator Instructions] The next question is from David Cohen with Midwood Capital. David E. Cohen: So you've given a fair amount of detail on the building blocks for the forecast here. And I just wanted to -- maybe contrast those with the pro forma from the merger documents and sort of what some of the puts and takes are versus what's your expectations for 2014 were at that time? George L. Mahoney: Anything, particularly? David E. Cohen: Well, figures related to revenue and broadcast cash flow? George L. Mahoney: Well, as you know, that the way the 2013 came in, revenue is in sort of fits and starts. We had each quarter finishing quite strongly, but each quarter also beginning a little bit more weakly than anybody thought it would. That was not just a Media General issue that was across the industry. David E. Cohen: I was literally speaking to your outlook for '14? George L. Mahoney: Right. And so for 2014, what we're seeing is a real nice start based on the Olympics that you've seen. So the Olympics revenues are up significantly over where we were in 2010. The March Madness, the next event, sports event programming on the schedule also is coming in very well, and we're looking for the rest of the year, it is solid, but it's aided in particular for us because of our presence in strong political markets where we expected to do very well. David E. Cohen: Okay. And how about your margins? Anything particular that's driving margins in 2014? Well, so I came out, I mean, I'm just doing some quick math. Kind of mid-'40s broadcast cash flow margins, which are contrast to, I think, low '40s in the pro forma projections? George L. Mahoney: I won't go into the specifics of your numbers and your math, but I will say that is true that in even-numbered years the margins go up fairly significantly because of all of the political revenue that drops nearly straight to the bottom line. And so you're right, that over odd-numbered years, even-numbered years, pickup in margins and we would anticipate seeing exactly that occurring. We know will occur in 2014. David E. Cohen: And again, what was your comment about your expectations of political just maybe incrementally higher or higher than in 2012? George L. Mahoney: Well, I think [indiscernible] -- what we've said on political is it will be higher than 2010, remember 2012 is a presidential year that is red hot. So we expect 2014 to be above 2010 levels.
The next question is a follow up from Barry Lucas with Gabelli & Company. Barry L. Lucas: Great. Just kind of a 2-parter on the retrans, George. So if we're talking about a 40% increase give or take in retrans in '14, and reverse in '13 was 34 going to 50, ballpark numbers would suggest that your net retrans is going order of magnitude from $60 million to $80 million in 2014? George L. Mahoney: Okay. James, you want to take that? James F. Woodward: Yes, that seems right. Barry L. Lucas: Okay. And then maybe if you could talk about any other big contracts or changes that -- or opportunities, if you will, for renewals, for the current year 2014 and 2015? What's kind of on the horizon there? George L. Mahoney: Well, you know that I would love to be able to talk about that, Barry. And you know that I won't. We used to give you a lot more detail on those kinds of things and we found as we're talking to cable companies that information was turned around and used against us. So we really won't get into the specifics. I will say that there is nothing on the short-term horizon for us. James F. Woodward: Barry, shares at the end of the year, 88.5 million. Barry L. Lucas: Actual? James F. Woodward: Yes.
The next question is from Steve Roberts with NorthPointe Capital.
Yes, just trying to get the sense better on the political. How much of the 12 number was from national impact? George L. Mahoney: We don't break, we don't break out the political.
Okay. What was the increase from '08 to or what was the '08 number? George L. Mahoney: I don't have the '08 number. James F. Woodward: We don't have that with us, Steve.
The next question is from Samir Kiroya with Kingdon.
I'm just wondering if you could comment on the corporate expense line in between broadcast cash flow and EBITDA. You know the margin -- that margin between the legacy Media General side and the Young side where it seemed to be a difference of several hundred basis points in margin, and then versus your peers on a pro forma basis seems to be generally higher than some of your peers. So I'm just curious if there's anything structural on there? Or what you can do to sort of close that gap? George L. Mahoney: Sure. Well, there is a stock-based compensation in there. And stock has enjoyed a nice run, so that's stock-based, which is non-cash, that's included in there. And also all the bonus money, even for all the stations within that number as well. So it depends on how the others account for those things and how much stock-based compensation they have to reconcile that to the peers.
Okay, but even on a historical basis, it seems to be running at a higher level. So even excluding maybe the stock noise for this year. I mean, is there anything that you guys -- and I know you got expenses growing up, low double -- low single digits. So maybe a better way is -- what's the normalized number for corporate expense, excluding some of the stock comp? George L. Mahoney: Yes, it's I think it was going to be about half of the 38 to 39, would be the normal -- would be normalized number. And the corporate, the core corporate expenses for Media General, I don't have it right in front of me, but in the last quarter, it was about $16 million to $17 million. And that excludes all of the bonus, legacy pension plan costs, and stock-based compensation.
So that was the combined company. George L. Mahoney: That was in legacy Media General.
Just Media General, okay. George L. Mahoney: So remember that we did not pick up very much from Young corporate and so what we did was over achieve on the corporate savings that we projected, we'd have for 2013. So we're actually quite proud of those numbers. Because we have projected for legacy Media General that would be $20 million number.
So is that a good run rate for an annual basis kind of $16 million to $17 million plus a little bit more for Young, times 4? George L. Mahoney: No. It's about, I said in my comments, it's about half of the $37 million to $38 million.
[Operator Instructions] We have no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Mahoney for closing remarks. George L. Mahoney: Well, thank you, all very much for tuning it. This has been a strong start for Media General and especially because of our combination with the Young Broadcasting, it's a story that keeps getting better. And that's by the quarter, but it's also as you heard this morning, for the long-term for the company. So we will look forward to bringing you further installments. And hope that you will turn into to listen to our progress. Thank you very much. Goodbye.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.