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Medtronic plc (MDT) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2024-08-20 11:36:14
Gary Corona
Thanks, Geoff, and I too want to thank Karen for all her contributions to Medtronic and her support of me personally. I'm energized to step into this role and continue the momentum that we have as a company. I'm honored to lead our talented global finance team and want to send a big thank you to the entire Medtronic organization for your support. I've been able to hit the ground running, and I'm excited to work together with Geoff and the leadership team to drive performance and achieve our financial commitments. I'm looking forward to having conversations with many of you in the investment community over the coming weeks. Now I'll recap our Q1 financials and give you some additional details on our outlook. We started this fiscal year by continuing to deliver on our commitments with revenue growth at 5.3%, a full point above the midpoint of our guidance. This translated into EPS that was $0.03 ahead of our guidance midpoint. We are driving diversified growth, and you can see this strength come through when you look by business or by geography, as both new product innovation and commercial execution is fueling our results. Our cardiovascular portfolio accelerated to high single-digit growth, and we saw continued momentum in neuroscience and diabetes. Our US growth also accelerated on contributions from cardiac rhythm management, PFA and neuromodulation. And our international markets grew in the high single digits, including mid-teens growth in emerging markets. Moving down the P&L. Our adjusted gross margin was 65.9%, down 50 basis points, but ahead of expectations. As expected, the decline was entirely driven by the 80 basis point impact of currency. However, we continue to make progress on our underlying margin improvement activities. In Q1, pricing from our new innovation and our cost-out programs offset inflation, resulting in a 30 basis point increase in our gross margin on a constant currency basis. Our adjusted operating margin was 24.4%, in-line with expectations. This was a decline of 40 basis points versus last year, but up 60 basis points in constant currency. Turning to capital allocation. Our philosophy hasn't changed. We continue to balance investments for future growth, including tuck-in M&A, with returning capital to shareholders primarily through our dividend and from time-to-time, through opportunistic share repurchases. This calendar year, we've seen a significant value opportunity in our shares and allocated more capital to share repurchase. Since our Q4 earnings call in May, we repurchased an incremental $1.5 billion of our shares and in total, $4 billion over the past two quarters. We believe these buybacks will have an attractive return given the conviction we have in growing our revenue, earnings and free cash flow. And as we go forward, we'll continue to focus on tuck-in M&A. Now let's cover guidance. Given our Q1 outperformance and positive momentum, we are raising our full year revenue and EPS guidance. We now expect fiscal 2025 organic revenue growth of 4.5% to 5%, an increase from the prior range of 4% to 5%. For Q2, we are expecting to deliver another quarter of mid-single digit growth in the top line. And we'd have remodeled organic revenue growth of approximately 4.5%. Based on recent rates, FX would have an unfavorable impact to fiscal 2025 in the range of $110 million to $210 million, including $10 million to $60 million in the second quarter. Moving down the P&L, we continue to expect our operating margins to expand this year, as we drive efficiencies while also investing behind our product launches and in our long-term pipeline. And based on recent rates, currency becomes much less of an impact to our margins and bottom-line after the second quarter. Taking this all together, we're raising our fiscal '25 non-GAAP diluted EPS guidance to a new range of $5.42 to $5.50, an increase from the prior range of $5.40 to $5.50. For the second quarter, we expect EPS of $1.24 to $1.26. The fiscal year '25 guidance range continues to include an unfavorable 5% impact from foreign currency, including an 8% impact in Q2. Further details on our annual guidance can be found in the guidance slide in our presentation. To wrap up, I want to emphasize that we are laser-focused on driving top-line growth and restoring the earnings power of the company. You saw that in our Q1 results, and you see it in our outlook for the rest of the year. We expect our EPS growth to accelerate in the back half as the impact from currency lessons, exiting the year with high single-digit growth. Geoff, back to you.
Geoff Martha
All right. Thanks Gary. Now before we go to the analyst questions, I want to close with a few thoughts. Since becoming CEO, we've made a lot of changes to this company, all designed to improve performance. Chief among these strategies is how we allocate capital to disproportionately focus our R&D, our venture and our M&A investments on the highest growth market opportunities, while still making sure our other businesses are competitive. And now you are seeing the payoff, as we are at the front end of some exciting new product cycles. You're seeing it in diabetes and in neuromodulation, in TAVR and PFA. And as I look at our pipeline, I expect this momentum to continue, as we invest heavily in future growth opportunities like hypertension and surgical robotics. We've also been working on the fundamentals. The foundation of this company is now much stronger. Quality and operations are in a better spot. And we're investing in enhancing our digital capabilities across the company to improve our speed. We're playing more offense. We're building capacity in strategic growth areas. We're looking to further increase organic investments and are on the hunt for the right tuck-in M&A opportunities. We've integrated a performance-driven mindset and an incentive structure that reinforces this. And in some cases, we've changed leadership, to add increased operating rigor to our mission driven culture. Now taken all together, this is now translating into the top-line growth momentum and improved earnings power that you are seeing in our results. And as we continue to execute, this will create meaningful value for society, and for shareholders. Finally, I would like to thank all of our employees around the world. I realize that we've driven a lot of change, and that can be uncomfortable. I appreciate all that you've done to embrace these changes, and it is rewarding to see your efforts paying off. As we look to the next 75 years of Medtronic, I'm excited about the possibilities before us. Together, we are building a stronger and more resilient company. So thanks for all that you do to fulfill our mission and to serve patients. So with that, let us move to Q&A where we are going to try to get as many analysts as possible. [Operator Instructions] If you have additional questions, you can reach out to Ryan and the Investor Relations team after the call. With that, Brad can you please give the instructions for asking a question? A - Brad Welnick: [Operator Instructions] Lastly, please be advised that this Q&A session is being recorded. For today's session, Geoff, Gary and Ryan are joined by Que Dallara, EVP and President of Diabetes; Mike Marinaro, EVP and President of the Medical Surgical portfolio; Sean Salmon, EVP and President of the Cardiovascular portfolio; and Brett Wall, EVP and President of the Neuroscience portfolio. We'll pause for a few seconds to assemble the queue. We'll take the first question from Vijay Kumar at Evercore ISI. Vijay, please go ahead.
Vijay Kumar
Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. Geoff, congrats on a really nice quarter here. Maybe my first question here is the organic execution in the quarter, well above your guidance expectations, I think north of 100 basis points. It is also about your annual guidance, right? It seems like it was pretty broad based. Based on your current outlook implies like your back half should be below what your 1Q performance was right. So maybe just talk about sustainability of 1Q, why these trends can sustain in the back half? Were there any one-offs that drove Q1 performance?
Geoff Martha
Hi, Vijay, good to hear from you. Yes, let me just answer that question directly. There was no one-offs that drove the performance. And overall, I'd say, it is sustainable because like I said in the commentary, we are in the beginning stages of some really exciting product cycles here into high-growth markets. In our Q1, I'd see a couple of things sort of like neuromod getting to double digits. That is really all about the new technology that we've missed the first quarter, we had both our pain stim closed-loop therapy inceptive, as well as DBS closed-loop therapy out there at the same time. And that growth is really driven by -- that's -- we think that's the new foundational technology sensing in the neuromod market and it's -- that growth is driven strictly by demand of these new products and pricing uplifts that came with them. Structural Heart, there's a lot of questions around the market there. And we're seeing consistent market growth as we've signaled in that high single digit and we're just really getting -- launching FX+ going from limited market at least a full market release, which is exciting. Plus the accumulation of all the data, smart, low risk, et cetera, is a real tailwind for us. Two businesses that had a particularly strong Q1 that I'm not sure is going to -- at that high level that throughout the year, one is Diabetes. Diabetes should continue to have growth well above the company average. But we're now annualizing the US launch of 780G. And so I can see diabetes in the teens last quarter. I'm not sure we are going to be able to sustain that the whole year. And CRM also had a really good quarter, some great -- we have a really nice product portfolio across the CRM, all the CRM segments. But we are not banking on CRM growing 8% every quarter. Those two -- there was nothing onetime about them, but just really strong execution. And I think across the company, I could just keep going on the list. There's just a lot of new products out there in the early stages. So overall, we feel good about the underlying fundamentals and where we are headed, and we're focused on delivering on our commitments and issuing guidance, issuing guidance sets us up for success.
Vijay Kumar
That's helpful, Geoff. And maybe one follow-up related to that on the guidance question. Gary, welcome to your first earnings call. The gross margin performance here in Q1 really strong. But your guidance still does assume a pretty meaningful step up in operating margins for back half, right? And when I look at your EPS guidance, [low-end] (ph) was tweaked, but it looks like there was some benefit from share repurchases. I don't know if your prior guidance had baked in a [1.5 billion share repo] (ph). So maybe just talk about your margin visibility for second half and did that change over the last three months?
Gary Corona
Yes. Thanks, Vijay and it is nice to meet you. I look forward to having a chance to meet all of you in person. Let me tackle your question about buyback first. And I'll take you through the puts and takes of the first quarter EPS. Our EPS starts with our top-line. And as Geoff mentioned, our revenue growth was really strong, a full point higher than the midpoint of our guide. And Geoff talked about the highlights. The midpoint of our guide, $0.02 of the $0.03 was really driven by the top-line strength that he mentioned. Gross margins were strong, about 40 bps ahead of consensus and operating margin was in-line. Below the line, there were some moving pieces, and that netted to about $0.01 with the benefit that you mentioned from the share count helping. But we also had lower interest income and some pressure on the tax rate. So that's a little bit more visibility into Q1. As we think about the leverage first half, second half, the underlying leverage we are driving is pretty similar on a constant currency basis with high single digit every quarter. The ramp is really an FX story. Significant pressure on the first half due to FX, and that will wane in the back half. Constant currency growth ticks up slightly, as we drive stronger revenue growth as a number of our therapies get to full market release. And as you know, we tend to have a pretty strong fourth quarter on the margin front. So that's the story on how the leverage will play out throughout the year. Vijay Kumar : Great. Thanks guys. Geoff Martha : Thanks Vijay. Take the next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Robbie Marcus at JPMorgan. Robbie please go ahead.
Robert Marcus
Great. Thanks for taking the question. And congrats on a good quarter. With my one, I wanted to ask about Diabetes. This is a pretty big shift in strategy for you. You've always been the provider with both the pump and the algorithm and the CGM, all in one. Now with Simplera about to launch, maybe just walk us through the strategy of why partnering with Abbott was in your best interest. Does this change your strategy at all? And how do we think about external versus internal investment in Diabetes moving forward? Thanks.
Geoff Martha
Yes, Robbie. I'll let Que answer that question. Go ahead, Que.
Que Dallara
Thanks, Robbie. I would say our strategy hasn't changed at all. I think what's really changed in the market is really a widespread recognition that AID really does provide better outcomes than CGM alone or MDI alone. And we always knew that there was a large installed base of users that wanted access to our technology, our AID system. We still believe in the system benefits exceed the sum of the parts, as you mentioned, wrapping it all together with our algorithm, the CGM, the pumping devices. And the typical integration you see in the market is puts a burden -- puts a technology burden on the part of patients. And so we wanted to find a way to provide the one Medtronic experience, the one phone number you can call for patients that may prefer a different sensor. And we are pleased to say that we found a path that works for patients from an experience standpoint, as well as for Abbott and for ourselves. And so that's what I would say, would be in response to your question. The strategy hasn't changed. We've just found a way to expand access to a broader installed base. And I think what hasn't changed is really our commitment towards the system, our confidence in our CGM. The Simplera launches, Simplera and Simplera Sync launches in Europe have gone very well. We are very pleased with the early experience. And we're pleased that we now have FDA approval for Simplera in the US, and we are working with the agency to get Simplera sync approved as well for integration with the 780G system. Robert Marcus : Great Thanks for that. Geoff Martha : Thanks Robbie. Next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Travis Steed at Bank of America Global Research. Travis please go ahead.
Travis Steed
Hi guys. Congrats on the quarter. I'll ask my one question on TAVR. And I just wanted to get kind of what you're sensing in the market today given some of the comments from the competitor there? And looking forward, when you think about the FX Plus launch, how do you expect that to impact the market, impact the share? And is that going to help you with some of the smart data and how you see the TAVR market playing out? Thanks a lot.
Geoff Martha
Hi, Travis, I'm going to hand that one over to Sean.
Sean Salmon
Perhaps thanks for the question. Look the TAVR market, we think is pretty solid. I think we're growing in line with the market in high single digits right now. And of course, the data momentum that we have, the low-risk data versus surgery. I think that's been very compelling, and we're going to read out 5-year on that data in the coming year here as well. And of course, SMART Day has really gotten a lot of attention for the right treatment strategy for small annulus and particularly in women, and that's resonated really globally to as small annulus is sort of a function of body habitats as well. FX Plus has done exceptionally well and its early launch. We did a full limited market release in the month of July, and we saw that momentum really pick up. So I think that will afford a really good continued access or continued growth of that part of the segment. What people really like is those bigger windows, you can then align onto the native coronary anatomy. So overlapping the costs to making sure that you get that material alignment and preserving future access. So that's all done without any trade-off and deliverability. It's got the features of FX, which really improve the usability of that device. And of course, the US is moving into full market launch right now. And within this year, we'll also obtain approvals in other geographies, which will keep the momentum going. So for us, I think the market is working really well and we're excited to bring this new technology. Travis Steed : Great. Thanks a lot. Geoff Martha : Thanks Travis. Next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Danielle Antalffy with UBS Securities. Danielle please go ahead.
Danielle Antalffy
Great. Thanks so much for taking the question. Good morning everyone. Congrats on a good start to the year here. Que, I just wanted to follow up on diabetes. And just how should we be thinking about this partnership with Abbott. Appreciating you're not giving time lines here. But how are you thinking about it and how it could grow the installed base, sort of what are you thinking about? I mean, Abbott has a pretty large installed base today. So should we be thinking about that as low-hanging fruit for the pump side of the business. Any more color you can give on how we should think about this changing the trajectory for the Diabetes business. Thanks so much.
Que Dallara
I mean I think the most obvious opportunity are for a very large installed base of users that prefer the Abbott sensor to now have access to our technology. So unfortunately, I can't give you time lines, but rest assured that we're working as fast as we can to get to incorporate that sensor into our system and really providing that one Medtronic experience where there's one single app patients can choose between 2 sensor options, but still experience our AID system and the automation that comes with our algorithm. And so that's the user experience we want to bring to the market. We think that's pretty differentiated, and it allows us to tap into the largest CGM installed base in the world in addition to our own -- growing our own installed base. Danielle Antalffy : Thanks Danielle. Next question Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Larry Biegelsen at Wells Fargo Securities. Larry please go ahead.
Lawrence Biegelsen
Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. For my one question, I wanted to ask about the progress with Hugo for Mike and Jeff. So it sounds like you've reached the targeted enrollment in EXPAND Euro, the pivotal US trial. When are we going to see the data? What's the time-line for US filing? Could we see potential launch this year or next year? And Geoff, there's still questions around your commitment to Hugo. Just maybe put any of those concerns to rest here. Thank you.
Geoff Martha
All right. Thanks, Larry. Well, maybe I'll let Mike answer the first couple of questions, and then I'll come in afterwards.
Mike Marinaro
Yes. Good morning, Larry. So on Hugo, we are happy with the progress we're making in the clinical work. As mentioned, we have reached targeted enrollment. There is still work to do as we reach the final endpoints and then completing the filing. So we won't be giving a specific date in terms of submission, but very good progress, and very appreciative of the work that we're doing together with our surgeon partners and our teams. Also, as noted, we are making good progress in the enrollment of both hernia and the gynecology clinical series that will allow us to then have a cadence of indications, which will be critical to the US launch. So very good work across the clinical series and again, appreciative of the work of our surgeon partners and teams. Geoff?
Geoff Martha
Yes. So look, as Mike said, look, there's a couple of things on Hugo here, 2 inflection points that need to happen for us to see the impact at the Medtronic level, the US approval and then just getting our leading instrumentation onto the robot and other capabilities. And as Mike mentioned, we're making progress on both. So this is like a midterm growth driver for us, I'd say, beyond the fiscal year. But get back to your question on our commitment, Larry. We're absolutely committed to this. And with all due -- it's -- we do think robotics is really across many different surgical areas, including orthopedics, where we play in Spine is a big driver in the space. And we're committed to being not just part of it, but being -- helping to lead that like we are doing in Spine. And with -- now we are up against a really strong entrenched competitor here in the soft tissue space. But we are committed -- we have levers to pull. We have a great surgery franchise. We've learned quite a bit about robotics over the years. And also the understanding that it's more than just the robot. It's a lot of other technology that goes in there imaging, navigation, the instrumentation AI, so the digital piece. So there is a lot of levers to pull, and we are committed and we are confident. And I'd just point back to a couple of years ago, other franchises that people were questioning, can you compete whether it is spine or whether it's diabetes or neuromod. We're focused on it. You've seen those all get to a much, much better spot with the focus and investment, and that's where we are on surgery. And my level of confidence on this is high because of the levers we have to pull, the team we have in place, the franchise we have. But knowing that the entrenched competitor is very strong. So understanding that, but still knowing having confidence in our team. Lawrence Biegelsen : Thank you. Geoff Martha : Thanks Larry. Next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from David Rescott at Baird Equity Research. David please go ahead.
David Rescott
Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the strong start to the year here. Geoff, I heard your comments on being on the hunt for M&A. I'm curious if you could help us kind of understand maybe what areas strategically you think make the most sense in the portfolio when you -- and think about the size of the Medtronic portfolio, I guess how do you balance that kind of near term, what can be needle moving versus what can move the needle over the two-year to three-year period and three-year to five-year period? Thank you.
Geoff Martha
Thanks for the question, David. Yes, I mean, look on the M&A side, this is one of the areas, just as part of our larger capital allocation strategy, right? Our -- we talk about little C capital allocation and big C capital allocation. We're talking about allocating our money to the areas of highest growth. And the M&A strategy has to play with our organic strategy and both are pointed towards the highest growth areas. Ablation -- AFib ablation is a case in point where we do the [Affair acquisition] (ph) as well as a needle crossing acquisition. That's -- those are the areas that we're pointed to. But we are still focused on value-creating tuck-in M&A. So with that growth and margin profile that I just talked about. So it's -- I don't want to point out specific areas other than the high-growth areas that are whether they be a product tuck-in to an existing business or an adjacency to an existing business tuck-in. That's where we are focused. And I think nothing is changed there, except that I think over the last 1.5 years or so, we've had a lot of operational focus areas that we've had. And that's been the focus is really getting the operations. Our operations footprint in a better spot, our back order is down, things like that, quality in a better spot. We are in a much better spot there, and I think can focus more of our energies on M&A. And the explanation I just gave is where we'll be focused. Geoff Martha : Thanks David. Next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Matt Taylor at Jefferies. Matt please go ahead.
Matt Taylor
Hi, thanks for taking the question. I guess I wanted to double-click on some of the comments that you made on the Structural Heart market. And I'm really curious about your thoughts on capacity now and going forward. And I know you said that you haven't seen signs of a slowdown in the market. But do you have concerns about capacity there longer-term or more broadly, is that a limiting factor in that business or any of your businesses? And how would you deal with that as an organization to help free up more capacity to help your therapies run through?
Geoff Martha
Well, look, I'd say overall -- I'm going to hand this over to Sean, Matt. But the structural heart space, TAVR, Mitral is coming, tricuspid. It's very underpenetrated still. So I do see a huge and then patient benefits are clear. Sean mentioned the data, whether it be low risk or now our SMART trial. The data is clear. It's underpenetrated -- and so I still think this is a strong growth market. I'll let Sean touch again on kind of where we are, where the market is, if you will, on capacity and what we're seeing and then maybe come back. Go ahead, Sean.
Sean Salmon
Yes. Thanks for the question. We're not hearing from our customers about capacity constraints, of course. So our sample size may be a little smaller than our competitor. But we ask about the future with the service line as they add additional things into the Structural Heart component of it. It doesn't seem like at the operator level, there's concerns in the US, of course, the freedom of beds for post procedures that goes beyond TAVR. That's been a challenge. But we are seeing some shifting of procedures to lower acuity settings to make room. And of course, the valve clinic, which works these patients up. That's something you just add capacity too when you need future capacity to expand it and you get a long runway to look at it. So I think with the expanding indications, we're pursuing a moderate [aortostenosis] (ph) population, which is about 2.5 million people in the US and transcatheter mitral replacement valves and things like that. So we'll work with centers to make sure that they have adequate training of operators and help them to expand capacity if it needs to be. But in the short run, I really don't see a challenge. And I think hospitals have a long enough runway to plan for the space that they need it. So I don't think it's a constraint on the future growth prospects of Structural Heart in total.
Geoff Martha
Yes. And look I agree with you on this one. And when we see situations like that, when there is capacity. In the past, we've stepped in and helped hospital -- our hospital partners with capacity. Like in Europe, many -- several years ago, we helped build out a number of -- and managed a number of cath labs when there was cath lab capacity constraints across Western Europe, I could see us doing this in the ASC space in the US to help build out that. And we'll partner, we talk with the imaging companies because a lot of the capacity is tied to imaging and work with them and work with our health care delivery partners to build out that capacity. So that's how we would handle it, if we were to see an issue, but we're not -- as Sean said, we're not hearing that in TAVR. Matt Taylor : Great. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Geoff Martha : Thanks Matt. Next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from David Roman at Goldman Sachs. David, please go ahead.
David Roman
Thank you. And good morning. I was hoping you could go into a little more detail on [Affera] (ph). Geoff, you mentioned that it's still -- obviously, pending FDA review and that you're in limited market release outside the United States. Can you maybe give us a little bit of perspective of what you've seen in Europe now about a year post CE Mark and whether we should use that as a proxy for thinking about how this product ramps in the US.
Geoff Martha
Sure. Thanks for the question, David. A lot of interest, obviously, and in our cash business and Afib right now. And maybe I'll go back to Sean on this one.
Sean Salmon
Yes, Dave, thanks for the question. The demand for PFA has really been unbelievably strong. And we're ramping up our capacity, as Geoff mentioned, meet that stronger growing demand right now. And those gains that we are seeing are more than offsetting that Cryo business, of course. And we're really in a unique position having this offering of both a single shot approach with our PulseSelect and then the point-by-point approach with Affera. PulseSelect, it's really gotten more case volume so far as we're moving that launch both within Europe and the United States. And what we're hearing from customers is the precision and predictability of the handling of the catheter. And importantly, that it shows up really well, both on mapping systems and on ultrasound. And that's important because you got to put the electrodes in the right spot of tissue, so you get you get good ablation in isolation without doing extraneous injury, and that's really been appreciated. And of course, the point-by-point approach with a Affera is really unique and differentiated for us as well. The same catheter being able to create this beautiful map and you can use either energy source, depending on where you want to be anatomically to avoid things like coronary spasm and the Isthmus lines. And also, the lattice tip, it's a really maybe underappreciated part of this Sphere-9 catheter. It's got this lattice that has excellent electrode stability, and it's 3 times wider than a normal kind of ablation electrode, you use for RF. So the precision and speed of that is really fantastic. So look, on the technology side, everything is going really well. You're asking about ramping in Europe, there are more cost constraints in Europe, of course, than what we see in markets like the US and Japan, where new technology even at a higher price seems to get adopted. So the uptick of PFA would be relatively slower but still robust as we go ahead with this technology. I think there's some lingering questions on durability, and we'll see some data at the upcoming AP HRS meeting, where we'll show longer-term durability of our PulseSelect catheters. We've already demonstrated that with Sphere-9. And I'd say, look, the opportunity to offer patients something that's really safe, really effective last a long time I think really just open up the aperture for more and more patients to flow through. Waiting list or a challenge for that business, and I think having a more efficient procedure with great workflow really helps. And then, of course, we can leverage the larger portfolio of Medtronic to help with sort of the economics of this in any country and around the world. So look, I think the future for pulsed field ablation, we're just getting going, but this is going to be a really robust growth market for a long time to come.
Geoff Martha
Yes. And just to emphasize something Sean said, we're really excited to be the only player with differentiated offerings in both the single shot and this point by point segments of the market. Both PulseSelect and Affera have differentiated features. Sean mentioned the handling of the catheter in PulseSelect, and that's really ramping for us quite well right now. And Affera, the ramp, obviously we don't have approval yet in the US and the ramp for that will be a bit a little behind where we are with PulseSelect. But PulseSelect is doing really well. And I think it's -- I think you just don't -- yes, I think the analyst community is kind of has moved past PulseSelect a little bit. And I'm not sure that's the right call. I mean it's doing really well. Geoff Martha : Thanks David. We will take the next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Jayson Bedford at Raymond James. Jayson please go ahead.
Jayson Bedford
Can you hear me okay?
Geoff Martha
Yes, we can, Jayson.
Jayson Bedford
Okay. Maybe just to follow on just on the [CAS question] (ph). One, I guess do you find that folks are waiting for in the US for Affera/Sphere-9? And then second, you did talk about an acceleration in [CAS revenue] (ph) going forward and acceleration in growth. Do you expect to be in a position to grow faster than the market exiting the year?
Geoff Martha
Sean, do you want to take these?
Sean Salmon
Yes. I guess on the first question, Jason, of course, people really, really want Affera. The vast majority of the ablation market favors point-by-point solutions with mapping in the United States, in particular. So the appeal of that product is really strong, but no one is waiting for it. I mean there's -- we're getting as much usage, maybe actually more from traditional point-by-point users, as we are getting from single-shot users. And as we bring that technology out I think the uptake is going to be pretty robust and rapid on top of what we are already doing with PulseSelect. So yes, I think that we've got the opportunity to grow faster than the market within this fiscal year, depending on the launch timing. Geoff Martha : Thank you Jayson. The next question please Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Joanne Wuensch at Citi. Joanne please go ahead.
Joanne Wuensch
Good morning and thank you so much for taking the question. Can we spend some time talking about the renal denervation market and the CMS NTAP for simplicity. How do you see this market developing now that reimbursement is getting behind the product? Thank you.
Geoff Martha
Yes. Thanks for the question, Joanne. I mean, look, we're -- like I said before, I'm super excited about our [end] (ph). And it's good to see the reimbursement taking shape. With the CMS with the outpatient payment determined I'm sorry, the inpatient payment now determined and the outpatient payment on the table here it's getting closer to that unlock, that reimbursement unlock. And I'll let maybe Sean comment on this as well.
Sean Salmon
Yes. Thanks, Geoff. And Joanne, thanks for the question. The payment is one part of it. We have coating and coverage, most importantly that need to come. So the coats are already established. We've got the -- as you noted, an NTAP we have inpatient coating, but outpatient is going to be more of the kind of procedure volume. We think less than 10% of the procedures are going to be done with more than a single midnight stayer on the inpatient setting. So really, it's that TPT or transitional pass-through payment that we're really waiting on. And we did hear from CMS on that this summer just this month where they're supporting our approach here for that application. This is a breakthrough device, so that helps to get into those kind of payment codes. And we expect to see that happen pretty soon. And of course, we are working really closely with CMS and with commercial payers on making sure we have coverage policies that are going to facilitate patient access. And again, being a breakthrough technology that helps you with the kind of urgency and speed at which we'll see CMS move. So look, I think all things on the reimbursement front are pointing exactly in the direction we are hoping to get them. And we're excited to ramp this technology up and make it available. The -- I will say that the level of excitement we're getting from physicians and from hospital systems about this new service line they can offer, as well as patients and the early outcomes for patients that have been treated on the sort of case-by-case basis have been really phenomenal. So look, I think that unlock, as we've said all along, is going be reimbursement, and we are marching toward that. So we're excited about the opportunity here.
Geoff Martha
Thank you, Joanne. I think we've got time for maybe two more questions. We’ll take the next question Brad.
Brad Welnick
The next question comes from Matt Miksic at Barclays. Matt please go ahead.
Matt Miksic
Hi, thanks so much for the question. And I just -- If I could -- two quick follow-ups on some of the topics that have already been kind of explored here. The first for Sean, just on TAVR, I seem to remember that with the FX launch, there was some effect of price premium. There was some period of kind of stocking as you got into the launch. And I'm just wondering if you could shed any light on the sort of shape of the next few quarters, as you really begin to roll out FX Plus. And then the second for Gary on FX. I think there's some questions around the fact that the top line FX impact actually eased a little bit, but the FX impact on the bottom line, the headwind, 5% remain the same. If you could maybe just flesh out for us again where some of the impacts of FX are in the P&L and how we think about those as the year progresses. Thanks so much.
Geoff Martha
Sean, do you want to take the question?
Sean Salmon
Yes, sure. So we are -- across the board, we price for value. And we think there's more value so while modest price premium is built into our TAVR launch but it really is about picking up more volume on cases, more implants. And the dynamics that you typically see when you bring a new product out are customers burning down their shelf inventory as they put a small amount of stocking per valve size, like a par level as they ramp up for new technologies. And we saw both those dynamics occur in the early launch accounts where people are picking up a little bit of inventory, but also taking down inventory for the prior model, the FX in the case of the US. So it's always a sort of switching dynamics. But I think that, that's already baked into everything we are forecasting for the continued growth of this product.
Gary Corona
Matt, this is Gary. And yes, as you mentioned, the US dollar has weakened a bit in the first quarter, and you'll see the benefits of that in the top line where we've communicated an improvement in the impact. If recent rates hold, we now expect FX on revenue to be a negative impact of $120 million to $210 million, and that compares to $275 million to $375 million. On the bottom line, the benefit is delayed due to our hedging program. But we do expect to realize the benefits in future years where FX will show up for us this year, will be a little bit different. It's going to show up a bit more in the gross margin line for us this year. And as we mentioned, the impact of foreign exchange will wane in the back half of the year and as our strong underlying earnings growth on a constant currency basis continues after we delivered a really nice shape of the P&L in the first quarter. We'll see that benefit flow through to reported EPS in the second half.
Ryan Weispfenning
Okay. Thanks, Matt. We've got time for one more question. If we didn't get to your question, if there's any analyst on the line that still have questions, feel free to follow up with me after the call. We'll go to our last question, please, Brad.
Brad Welnick
The final question comes from Patrick Wood at Morgan Stanley. Patrick please go ahead.
Patrick Wood
Beautiful. Thank you so much for taking the question. Quite a high level one. But you guys are now, I guess getting the benefit of some heavy investment in previous years in the base business. And so I guess the question is, does that -- how does that make you feel of the interplay between reinvesting for growth on the product support side, on innovation relative to margins over the next, I don't know, year or two? Like how do you see that interplay going forward of earnings leverage and investing in the base business versus trying to drive the top-line? Any updated thoughts there would be great. Thanks.
Geoff Martha
Sure. Thanks, Patrick. Look, we are committed to driving leverage down the P&L a company of our size. I mean that's something we should be able to do. We've got a lot of levers to pull that a lot of levers to pull to achieve that things and free up, at the same time free up even more money for investment, which I'll get to. But we are doing a number of things, measures to hold our kind of overhead and enabling expenses low -- flat to low so that we can reinvest more in the top-line. So we're doing things that we've really focused on -- just like we have capital allocation focus, we also have a focus on our headcount and allocating human capital where that goes and got that under in a good spot. We are driving -- we're holding our -- really trying to hold our G&A flat as a base case and then target areas we want to add for growth like for example, as the Ardian reimbursement comes in, we'll be adding more on our direct distribution for that. So a very disciplined process to put -- hold our expenses flat as a base case for G&A and then invest in the high-growth areas. And also through a number of programs to drive efficiencies in our enabling functions, including the use of AI to drive some of these efficiencies. So a lot going on there and really committed to investing back into the business for growth, whether it be on the direct distributor or the sales side, but more importantly, even on the R&D side. And so we've raised that organic investment of -- despite some of the challenges we've had over the last couple of years, we've raised that organic investment. And look, the tuck-in M&A, as I mentioned earlier, we'd like to kind of maybe over time here, increase the cadence of that to support the -- because of the cash flow of the company is strong to support the organic -- that organic R&D. So that's how we're thinking about it. I think we can drive that earning that leverage down the P&L. We've got a lot of different levers to pull to do that, at the same time, freeing up even more investment both from our income statement into R&D, but also using the strong cash flow from the balance sheet for tuck-in M&A. That's how we're looking at it, again prioritizing these high-growth areas, but at the same time, making sure that the rest of our businesses are competitive. And I feel like we've gotten to a good spot on that, and we'll see. We're seeing the benefits of that now, and we're going to continue to see the benefits of that on into the future.
Ryan Weispfenning
Okay. Thanks, Patrick. Geoff, please go ahead with your closing remarks.
Geoff Martha
Okay. Thanks, Ryan. And thanks everybody, for the great questions. And we certainly appreciate your support and interest in Medtronic. And we hope you'll join us for our Q2 earnings broadcast, which we anticipate holding on Tuesday, November 19. Now that's the week before Thanksgiving in the US this year. Again, as usual, we'll update you on our progress against our long-term strategies and our commitments both short and long-term. So with that, thanks for joining us, and have a great rest of your day.