Leggett & Platt, Incorporated

Leggett & Platt, Incorporated

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Leggett & Platt, Incorporated (LEG) Q2 2016 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2016-07-29 17:32:48
Executives
David DeSonier - SVP of Strategy & IR Karl Glassman - President, CEO and Management Director Matt Flanigan - CFO Perry Davis - SVP and President, Residential Furnishings Susan McCoy - VP, Investor Relations
Analysts
Bobby Griffin - Raymond James Daniel Moore - CJS Securities Mark Rupe - Longbow Research Dillard Watt - Stifel Keith Hughes - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Herb Hardt - Monness, Crespi and Hardt
Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the Leggett & Platt Second Quarter 2016 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. David DeSonier, Senior Vice President, Strategy and Investor Relations for Leggett & Platt. Thank you. You may begin.
David DeSonier
Good morning and thank you for taking part in Leggett & Platt’s Second Quarter Conference Call. With me this morning are the following: Karl Glassman, who is President and CEO; Matt Flanigan, our Executive VP and CFO; and Susan McCoy, our VP of Investor Relations. Perry Davis, who is Senior Vice President of the company and also President of the Residential Furnishing segment is also joining us this morning to participate in the Q&A. The agenda for our call this morning is as follows. Karl Glassman will start with a summary of the major statements we made in yesterday's press release and provide segment highlights. Matt Flanigan will discuss financial details and address our outlook for the remainder of 2016. And finally, the group will answer any questions that you have. This conference is being recorded for Leggett & Platt and is copyrighted material. This call may not be transcribed or recorded or broadcasted without our expressed permission. A replay is available from the IR portion of Leggett’s website. We posted to the IR portion of the website, a set of PowerPoint slides that contains summary financial information, along with segment details. Those slides supplement the information we discuss on this call, including non-GAAP reconciliations. I need to remind you that our remarks today concerning future expectations, events, objectives, strategies, trends or results constitute forward-looking statements, actual results or events may differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties, and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise these statements. For a summary of these risk factors and additional information, please refer to yesterday's press release and the sections in our 10-K entitled forward-looking statements. I'll now turn the call over to Karl Glassman.
Karl Glassman
Good morning and thank you for participating in our second quarter call. Yesterday, we reported another quarter of strong earnings despite softer than forecasted volume. For the full year, we continue to expect record earnings per share from continuing operations, strong EBIT margins and a significant improvement in operating cash flow. Second quarter earnings per share from continuing operations were$0.72 and included a net $0.06 per share benefit from unusual items. Excluding this benefit, earnings per share from continuing operations were $0.66, up 25% versus the $0.53 that we earned in the prior year. This increase reflects several factors including higher unit volume, favorable product mix, operational improvements, a lower effective tax rate and reduced share count. Second quarter sales decreased 4% to $959 million, from divestitures and a 1% decline in same location sales. Unit volume grew 2%, but was more than offset by raw material related price decreases and currency impact, which combined to reduce sales by 3%. Adjusted EBIT grew 9% in the quarter and adjusted EBIT margin increased 170 basis points to 13.8%. During the quarter, we settled, as plaintiff, a long-standing anti-trust claim, and received cash proceeds of $38 million. Since this claim was primarily related to the Prime-Foam business that we divested in 2007, the majority of the benefit was recognized in discontinued operations. The remaining $0.03 per share benefit related to our carpet cushion business and was recognized in continuing operations. Late in the quarter, we completed two small divestitures. The first was a wire products operation with annual sales of approximately $50 million. This divestiture was completed in early June, and was part of the Industrial Materials segment. The second was a CVP operation with annual sales of approximately $30 million. This divestiture occurred in late June, and was part of the Specialized Product segment. The $0.05 per-share divestiture gain that we’ve recognized in the second quarter related to this CVP transaction. The $0.02 per-share goodwill impairment charge that we recognized in the quarter also related to the CVP business, but was associated with the operation that remains. During the quarter, we purchased the minority interest in our automotive joint-venture in China. This is a strong performing business that we’ve controlled and operated for several years, and we are pleased to now have full ownership. Now, on to the segments. In Residential Furnishings, second quarter same-location sales were down 6%, unit volume decreased 2%, and raw material related price deflation and currency reduced sales by 4%. Sales trends for the major businesses and product categories, excluding deflation and currency, were as follows: US Spring Component dollar sales were flat. Innerspring units decreased 4% and boxspring unit volumes were down 6%. The favorable mix shift in innersprings continued, with comfort core units up 9% during the quarter. International Spring sales grew 6%. Furniture Component sales were down 6%, with sales in the seating and sofa sleeper business up 2% and motion hardware unit volume down 18%. Volume also increased Geo components. The segment's reported EBIT, included a $7 million benefit from the portion of the litigation settlement that was related to corporate cushion. Excluding this gain, segment EBIT and EBIT margin increased in the quarter with the impact from lower unit volume, more than offset by pricing discipline, a favorable product mix within US and European bedding, and the non-reoccurrence of last year's foam litigation expense. In the Commercial Products segment, second quarter same-location sales decreased 4%. Growth in Work Furniture was more than offset by lower sales in adjustable bed, with those units being down 5% during the quarter. Adjustable bed sales also reflects a decrease in industry-wide AUSP, as more product introductions are occurring at lower retail price points. Segment EBIT was flat and EBIT margin increased slightly, with operation and all improvements offsetting the impact from lower sales. In the Industrial Materials segment, second quarter same-location sales were down 13% from steel-related price decreases and lower unit volume and drawn wire. Total sales also decreased versus the prior year from two divestitures. The first was the Steel Tubing business that we sold in late 2015, and the second was the small wire products operation that I mentioned earlier. The segment's EBIT increased in the second quarter, primarily from operational improvements, partially offset by lower unit volume. EBIT margins in the segment have improved significantly this year, and were up 350 basis points to11.1% in the second quarter. The segment's margins have structurally improved, as a result of the divestitures. In the Specialized Product segment, second quarter same-location sales increased 9%, with a 10% volume improvement, partially offset by currency impact. Excluding currency changes, Automotive sales grew 13%, machinery sales grew 4%, and commercial vehicle product same-location sales were up 29%. The Aerospace same-location sales decreased a 11% in the quarter. The segment’s reported EBIT, included an $11 million divestiture gain and a $4 million goodwill impairment charge, both related to CVP. Excluding these items, EBIT grew and EBIT margins improved 360 basis points, primarily from higher volume, currency benefits and cost reductions. I'll now turn the call over to Matt.
Matt Flanigan
Thanks, Karl, and good morning, everyone. Cash from operations was a very strong $151 million in the second quarter. Operating cash flow increased $56 million versus our second quarter last year, in part due to the collection of our $38 million of proceeds from the litigation settlement that Karl discussed. Operating cash flow also benefited from continued working capital management. We entered the quarter with adjusted working capital as a percentage of annualized sales at 10.4%. In May, we increased the quarterly dividend by $0.02 to $0.34 per share. This was our largest quarterly increase since 2007, and marked a $0.03 per share or 9.7% increase versus the second quarter of 2015. Our target range for dividend pay-out is 50% to 60% of net earnings. Actual pay-out had been higher until last year, but with earnings growth, we are now within our targeted pay-out range. At yesterday's closing price of $54.53, the current yield is 2.5%, which is one of the higher yields among the 50 companies that comprised the S&P 500's dividend aristocrats. During the second quarter, we repurchased 1.2 million shares of our stock at an average price of $49.39, and issued 300,000 shares to employee benefit plans and option exercises. Our financial base remains very strong, and this gives us considerable flexibility when making capital and investment decisions. During the quarter, we renewed our bank facility, which supports our commercial paper program and increased the capacity to $750 million, up from $600 million previously. We also extended the maturity by two years to May 2021. At June 30, we had $467 million available under this program. We entered the second quarter with net debt to net capital at 37%, well within our long-standing targeted range of 30% to 40%. We also monitored debt-to-EBITDA. At the end of June, our debt was 1.6 times our trailing-12 months adjusted EBITDA. We assess our overall performance by comparing our total shareholder return to that of peer companies on a rolling three-year basis. Our target is to achieve TSR in the top one-third of the S&P 500 over the long-term, which we believe will require an average TSR of 12% to 15% per year. For the three-year period that will end on December 31, 2016, we have so far generated compound annual TSR of 27% per year. That performance places us within the top 6% of the S&P 500. As we announced yesterday, we are narrowing our 2016 EPS guidance, and now expect record full-year earnings from continuing operations of $2.45 to $2.60 per share. This revised range includes the $0.06 per share of unusual items that we recognized in the second quarter, $0.03 of which was in our prior EPS range of $2.40 to $2.60. Full-year guidance now anticipates our 2016 sales to be roughly flat with 2015 at $3.9 billion. This assumes unit volume growth in the mid-single digits, offset by 3% reduction from divestitures, net of small acquisitions and a 2% decrease from commodity deflation and currency impact. We expect another year of strong margin performance. Based upon our guidance range, our full year adjusted EBIT margin should be between 12.6% and 13.1%. Margins in the back half of the year are forecasted to be lower than our first-half margins, primarily due to the expected pricing lag associated with passing through recent inflation in commodities. The three main assumptions that have changed from our prior guidance are: the level of unit volume growth; the divestiture impact on sales; and the tax rate. Unit volume growth is now expected to be at the lower end of our prior range, which was mid-to-high single-digit growth. First half unit volume was roughly flat versus strong prior-year comps. We expect unit volume to grow in the back half of the year. We also have more sales impact from divestitures following the two transactions that were completed in the second quarter. The $100-million decrease from the midpoint of our prior sales guidance is evenly split between lower unit volume growth and divestitures. EPS guidance is also impacted by the lower unit volume growth assumption, but this is offset by an expected lower effective tax rate. This tax rate change is driven primarily by the new accounting treatment for stock-based compensation. The implied full-year adjusted margin of approximately 13% is consistent with the margin derived from prior guidance at the mid-single-digit unit volume growth level. Full year cash from operations is now expected to exceed $500 million. Dividends should require about $175 million of cash and capital expenditures should approximate $130 million for the year. As has been our practice, after funding capital expenditures and dividends, remaining cash flow will be prioritized toward competitively advantaged acquisitions. Potential acquisitions must meet stringent strategic and financial criteria. Should no acquisitions come to fruition, and if excess cash flow is available, we have a standing authorization from the board to repurchase up to 10 million shares each year. No specific repurchase commitment or timetable has been established. However, we currently expect to repurchase 4 million to 5 million shares in 2016, and issue approximately 2 million shares primarily for employee benefit plans. With those comments, I'll now turn the call back over to Dave.
David DeSonier
That concludes our prepared remarks. We thank you for your attention, and we will be glad to answer your questions. [Operator Instructions]. Melissa, we're ready to begin the Q&A.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Budd Bugatch with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.
Bobby Griffin
Good morning, everybody. This is Budd filling in for Bobby, I mean this is Bobby filling in for Budd. Thank you for taking my questions. It’s been a long earnings season as you can tell. I’m sure everybody will have a good reading the transcript with that matter, but thank you for taking my questions nonetheless. Karl, just real quickly on the reduction and kind of the unit volume expectations, can you give us a little bit of color on maybe what segments you're seeing that at more versus some other areas in the business?
Karl Glassman
Yeah, Bobby, good morning. Sometimes I don't know who I am either by the way, especially today. It's pretty broad-based that there's some softness in residential that continues, feels a little bit more like Home Furniture than Bedding at this point. The strength continues to be Automotive, but it's more of a step function change down from a macro perspective that we perceive to be impacting us. There's a - from a forecast standpoint, there's some softness in our European forecast that it's yet to be seen as to what the BREXIT impact will have, maybe we're a little pessimistic, I don't know. So that's a change from the previous forecast. But, I certainly can't isolate it to any one business unit.
Bobby Griffin
Okay, I appreciate that color. And then, just real quickly, on the raw material and kind of the pricing outlook has much changed since the last time we spoke going to the back half of the year?
Karl Glassman
Yeah, a little bit in that. If we look at second quarter to first quarter scrap, it was up in excess of $50 a ton, which is about 30%. So, as the quarter continued, we continued to see scrap inflation that will manifest itself into on the flat products side, US steel cost inflation in the third quarter, the forecast is about a 30% level. And we're now passing through pricing on the long products, the rod and wire. That impact we told you about last quarter that we have launched some of those increases, we continue to implement increases. There's no real good visibility as to how scrap is going to move in the back half of the year. It traded down slightly in July. We think August maybe flat to slightly up bias. We'll see, but really what's happened, the way to think about it, Bobby, is that commodities deflation was a tailwind and now inflation has turned into a bit of a headwind, remembering that we have about a 90-day lag of pass-through time.
Bobby Griffin
Okay. And following the 90-day lag, you should start to see some of the actual reported revenue start to reflect some of the higher prices and everything going there?
Karl Glassman
That's correct.
Bobby Griffin
Margin headwinds on a higher revenue number would be the way to think about it in our model, right?
Karl Glassman
Absolutely.
Bobby Griffin
Alright, I appreciate the detail and best of luck moving forward.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Daniel Moore
Thank you, and good morning. I wanted to hone in a little bit on the Adjustable Beds. Obviously, you mentioned some introduction of lower price points, I think. Is it simply tough comps or their changing consumer buying patterns out there?
Karl Glassman
Dan, I think it's more of a tough comp issue in there. Our adjustables in 2Q15 were up 70%. So, and the fall back, actually in this quarter was very much early quarter-weighted. April was tough, and then we saw a recovery as the quarter progressed. We expect units to be positive in the back half of the year, in part because of the significant rollout of a new retail program, and frankly, the fourth quarter comps are very, very easy. So I don't think it's a step function changed at all, Consumer demand is real, I think it's just a by-product of a tough comp.
Daniel Moore
And maybe one more, just Specialized Products, obviously, auto remains really strong, commercial vehicle products in particular was strong, maybe just talk about the sustainability of those growth rates as we look out in the back half of the year.
Karl Glassman
The forecast now, by the way, the CVP business is just one single location after the series of divestitures that we've gone through. That's a Atlanta-based facility. It was actually the largest of the CVP businesses at least in recent years. Their volume had really been good. They had a very, very good first quarter as well. So, we see some pickup in demand, but I'm not willing to claim victory yet. That business is inherently choppy. Our current forecasts show a little bit softer demand in the back half, which is typical that we'll see some choppiness in that business, but everything said, it is performing much better than it had in the past.
Daniel Moore
Thank you, again, for the color.
Karl Glassman
Thanks, Dan.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Mark Rupe with Longbow Research. Please proceed with your question.
Mark Rupe
Good morning, everyone. Nice execution.
Karl Glassman
Thank you, Mark.
Mark Rupe
As it relates to the innerspring demand, I think, Karl, you’d mentioned through maybe the first part or the first three weeks of April, demand from a unit perspective was flat. So, that kind of implies May and June being a little bit tougher than that, I just wanted to confirm that. And then, how does that relate versus the Adjustable comment you made that was, April was tough, and May and June was a little bit better?
Karl Glassman
Perry, you don’t you take it.
Perry Davis
Yeah, Mark, this is Perry. Although, we don't really provide color now on a period-by-period basis because it's so confusing with the different period ins amongst our customers and some of the information that's out there from an industry standpoint, but we did find it pretty choppy throughout the quarter. We had demand that was well below where we had earlier thought we would be. However, if you look at the quarter overall, in 2015, in innerspring volume, we were up 17% last year year-on-year. So, this year being down about 4%, if you took the two years and put them together, it would be a 13% rise over 2014. If somebody had told me that, that two years we double, I would [indiscernible].
Mark Rupe
Yes. Okay. And just really quickly on Furniture Hardware, I had to ask on the last quarter when it was down, I believe high singles maybe in the first quarter. The commentary was the first half with tough comps with the port issues last year, I assume it's the same answer on that tough comps, but I think given that it's minus 18, and I at least want to ask whether or not there is anything else going on from a furniture hardware component standpoint.
Perry Davis
Yeah, Mark, we did have some small benefit last year, the second quarter still pertaining to the port situation, but there have been some shifts within the market. We are seeing right now raw material, primarily steel, a delta in US versus China pricing at a - the highest level that I have seen. It's north of 40%. In some cases, on the flat steel, we're using mechanisms. We produce both here in the US and China obviously. What that has caused is a shift of product being sourced out of China over the last three or four months, we've seen a significant shift. Along with that, we've seen some bounce back by some of the manufacturers and retailers, and that they will take a product that may not be quite as high of quality as they had before, but it's still acceptable to them with that big delta in steel pricing. And we consistently are saying business volumes that are generating below last year's numbers and it's been that way pretty much for the full year.
Mark Rupe
Okay. Perry, thank you and good luck.
Susan McCoy
Thanks Mark.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dillard Watt of Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Dillard Watt
Thanks. Good morning, everybody. I just wanted to maybe confirm on the change in the EBIT margin guidance. Is that solely related to the slightly lower unit volume assumption? I know, Matt, you made that comment, but I just wanted to make sure there's nothing else going on there.
Susan McCoy
Dillard, it's very much in line with what our prior guidance would have suggested if we would have then been guiding for unit volume growth to be in mid-single digit instead of mid-to-high single digit.
Dillard Watt
Okay, great. That does it for me.
Susan McCoy
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Keith Hughes with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please proceed with your question.
Keith Hughes
Thank you. This maybe a repeat, I've gotten disconnected a couple of times here on the call. But on LIFO, any sort of sense in the second half of the year, what that's going to look like given the inflation? Is it going to turn into a negative on the future quarters?
Susan McCoy
Keith, we booked a little over $7 million of LIFO expense in the second quarter, which was basically first half catch-up given where quantities have moved during the course of the second quarter. Our current best view of the LIFO scenario would put us in a little over $14 million for the full year, but as you well know that has a tendency to move around and we'll continue to revisit that estimate each quarter.
Keith Hughes
Okay. And I just - but the bias on that turned to the negative given the information that’s going on?
Matt Flanigan
Yes. Keith, this is Matt. Basically, it's reflecting inflation that's occurred from the beginning of the year to where we find ourselves now. It gets a little bit confusing when you think about last year and all the deflation that was happening. So, LIFO is a calendar quarter sort of phenomenon. And so sure enough, just like Susan said, it was $7 million recorded in the second quarter. Full year expectation, as we stated today, is $14 million. So that means in the next two quarters, if that turns out to be exactly right, you'd see another $3.5 million of LIFO expense in 3Q and then 4Q as well.
Keith Hughes
I know this is tough for you to gauge. It could move around a lot from quarter-to-quarter just based on the various ups and downs of what's going on in steel prices, correct?
Matt Flanigan
Correct.
Keith Hughes
Thank you.
Susan McCoy
Thanks, Keith.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes the line of Herb Hardt with Monness, Crespi and Hardt. Please proceed with your question.
Herb Hardt
Good morning. I’ve got two questions. One is on the pension side, with interest rates where they are, is there - what are the thoughts in terms of the next year or two as to the rollover of order volumes and higher rates come through?
David DeSonier
Herb, this is Dave. We're not forecasting any change in our mix. In the frozen plans, we're roughly 60% bond and 40% stock, and we feel pretty good about that. I mean, if you could tell me when interest rates were going to move, we would be able to forecast better what we should do with pension. But we feel pretty good with the mix we've got and we're pretty well-balanced obligations versus asset mix.
Herb Hardt
What's your assumption on discount rate?
David DeSonier
I'll have to get that, Herb. I don't recall offhand.
Herb Hardt
Okay. The next question is part of the Chinese venture that you purchased, could you give out any of the numbers on that in terms of multiple EBITDA, or sales or whatever you would pay for?
Susan McCoy
No. There's - you can see a line item in our cash flow statement that actually isn't in investing activities, because it was a JV before we had when down in the financing section, I want to say $35 million or something in that ballpark. We were already consolidating all of the sales and EBIT under the accounting rules for treating the additions and business where we had the majority ownership already. So, all that’s really change in from our financials relative to the earnings profile is that, the next to last point on our income statement that used to back out the non-controlling interest is no longer going to exist, and that's really the extent of the disclosures that we'll make around it. It's pretty small, but it has been a really important part of that profile for the business unit, more and more happy to have full ownership.
Herb Hardt
Thank you very much.
Susan McCoy
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS securities. Please proceed with your question.
Daniel Moore
Thanks again. Just turning to capital allocation, curious if the expansion of the credit facility, does it indicate any incremental likelihood of M&A activity in the next several quarters or are you simply maintaining dry powder and flexibility?
Matt Flanigan
Dan, this is Matt. Thanks for the question. A combination of things really, first of all, the market is quite receptive as you well know, and we decided it was a good time to go in and extend our facility, the additional two years out to May of 2021. We have done so much divestiture work as everyone is well aware of over the last several years. And so, we do believe that we're basically largely done with that effort, so there's an opportunity to continue, and this has always been the case to be mindful of any attractive growth opportunities that are coming through the M&A pipeline. Certainly, Karl can comment on how he views the pipeline looking right now, but we just wanted to take advantage of the market as it currently resides to make sure we have plenty of flexibility, and that really is the number one driver behind that. And sure enough, we do anticipate that we'll have perhaps a bit more opportunity to look at some growth prospects, not that we haven't been looking at them all along, but since so much of the divestiture work has now been done, that's kind of a natural opportunity it appears over the next 12 to 24 months, and of course, that credit goes up five years. So it's a nice position to be in.
Daniel Moore
Oh, the best time to taking capital is when you don't need it. So I appreciate the color, and again, congrats on a solid quarter.
Matt Flanigan
Thanks, Dan.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is another follow-up from Mark Rupe with Longbow Research. Please proceed with your question.
Mark Rupe
Hi, guys. Just a quick follow-up, and I don't believe it's been addressed, but the aerospace business was down in this quarter, and I don't remember being down in a while. I assume it's probably some timing with some of the projects but I just wanted to see if you had any comment there?
Karl Glassman
Yeah, Mark, you are right. It has not been down in the past, it actually was up greater than double digits in 2Q '15, so that's what the comp was out there. The newly acquired or more recently acquired businesses are performing very well. Those are the more value-added businesses. We'll say the French operation continues to exceed all expectations. Our people in France are doing a great job. The softness that we experienced was just some demand choppiness and it's back at the original Western nomadic investment that we made in the first quarter of 2012, and you'll remember that was just a straight tube business, and it’s - just aerospace demand is inherently choppy.
Mark Rupe
Okay. And then, just one last real quick one, the wire products divestiture, the rationale, that kind of surprised me, I guess, was there some rationale in that one being divested?
Karl Glassman
Yes. There were a lot of sales and not much EBIT. The return profile wasn't acceptable. We were pleased with that divestiture that we received a long-term supply agreement with the acquirer of that business. So it was originally purchased many years ago to be a wire play. So from a future standpoint, we'll still have those wire tons to run through our operation. We just won't have the low-margin sales associated with the value-added product.
Mark Rupe
Perfect. Thank you.
Karl Glassman
You’re welcome.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is another follow-up from the line of Budd Bugatch with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question. [Operator Instructions]
Bobby Griffin
Hi, guys, it's Bobby, so I was having some issues with my headset. Thanks for letting me jump back in here. Susan, can you give us just some detail on the line items or the segments, I mean, for revenue and operating margins as we typically kind of get?
Susan McCoy
Yeah. This is steeped, and basically the current guidance would say midpoint that we've got sort of an approximate revenue guidance down $3.9 million. At this point, we would assume full year Residential Sales volume that would be down probably low single-digit. We'll have some volume growth, we think, in the segment, but we also have some first half deflation, not sure that that deflation is going to be completely overcome with price increases in the back half of the year. Commercial will be looking at up high single digits, combination of acquisition and some volume growth. Industrial is still looking to be down quite notably, and in fact, kind of mid-20s is where it would be. But keep in mind, that they're taking the largest hit from divestitures. So, simple math would say 15%, 16% off just because of the divestitures and maybe 8% to 10% down organic, which is also a major reflection of steel deflation. And then, specialized up high single digits with continued good growth across most of that segment. The margin profiles, interestingly enough, and it's similar to what we said before, those don't really look very different from what we said last time. In fact, Residential is still kind of 10% to 11% range, up slightly from where they were last year. Commercial up 50 to 100 basis points from last year, which would put them in the 7% to 8% range. Industrial, 10% to 11%, which is up a lot from last year we mentioned structurally a lot of improvement because of the divestitures. And then, Specialized up 100 basis points, still from where they were last year, which puts them in the high teens as well. So when you blend all that together, you're still closing in on about somewhere close to a 13% blended margin for overall.
Bobby Griffin
Thank you, guys, very helpful. I appreciate the further detail.
Operator
Thank you. Mr. DeSonier, there are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the floor back to you for any final remarks.
David DeSonier
We'll just say thank you for your participation. We do appreciate your time and we'll talk to you next quarter.
Operator
Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.