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Iteris, Inc. (ITI) Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2021-02-02 19:57:11
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Iteris Fiscal Third Quarter 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Todd Kehrli, MKR Group. Please go ahead.
Todd Kehrli
Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Iteris' financial results for its fiscal 2021 third quarter ended December 31, 2020. Joining us today are Iteris' President and CEO, Mr. Joe Bergera; and the company's CFO, Mr. Doug Groves. Before we continue, we'd like to remind all participants that during the course of this call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future performance of the company. These statements are based on current information, are subject to change, and they're not going to use of future performance. Iteris is undertaking -- is not undertaking an obligation to provide updates to these forward-looking statements in the future. Actual results may differ materially from what is discussed today, and no one should assume that, at a later date, the company's comments from today will still be valid. Iteris refers you to the documents that the company files from time to time with the SEC, specifically the company's most recent Forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K, which contain and identify important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those that are contained in any of the forward-looking statements. I'd like to remind everyone that you'll find a supplementary report of our third quarter financial metrics and a webcast replay of today's call on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at iteris.com. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Iteris' President and CEO, Mr. Joe Bergera. Please proceed.
Joe Bergera
Great. Thanks, Todd, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate you joining us today. As you saw at the close of the market, we issued a press release announcing the financial results of our fiscal third quarter ended December 31, 2020. Please bear in mind the effect of two recent transactions on the presentation of this period's results. On May 5, 2020, we completed the sale of our Agriculture and Weather Analytics segment to DTN LLC. Therefore, we're reporting the results of that segment as discontinued operations for all periods presented in today's earnings announcement. And as such, I'll be discussing only our continuing operations during the remainder of this call. Conversely, we completed the acquisition of the assets of TrafficCast International Inc. on December 7, 2020. Although a substantial portion of the acquisition costs were incurred in our December 31, 2020 period, the revenue impact for the subperiod was minimal. The results for TrafficCast's commercial business, which is software, is included in our Transportation Systems segment results. And the results of TrafficCast public sector business, which is primarily IoT devices, is included in our Roadway Sensors segment. Given that Doug will discuss the TrafficCast accounting implications in more detail in a few minutes, I'd like to now turn your attention to our third quarter highlights. Our software-enabled delivery model continued to demonstrate its resiliency in our third quarter. However, COVID-19 impacted the operations of some of our subcontractors. This led to milestone and revenue recognition delays on a couple of large projects in Southern California, in particular. Similarly, the Transportation Systems segment experienced some timing issues that impacted our third quarter net bookings result of $20.6 million. Despite these issues, we reported $28.2 million in total revenue, representing a 5% increase compared to the same prior year period. Our year-to-date total net bookings of $188.9 million represents a 3% year-over-year increase. At the end of our third quarter, the company's total ending backlog was a record $76.9 million, which is a 22% year-over-year increase and a 5% sequential increase. The total ending backlog figure does include the addition of $13.2 million in backlog from the TrafficCast acquisition, however, our total ending backlog would have increased on a year-over-year basis without the TrafficCast acquisition. The combination of the company's continued growth and improved cost structure following the strategic actions we took in our first quarter drove a significant increase in adjusted EBITDA and net income even after the impact of the TrafficCast acquisition costs. Now let me provide an overview of our third quarter sales and product performance by segment. Our Transportation Systems segment recognized $14.1 million in third quarter revenue, representing an 8% decrease versus the same prior year period. As referenced earlier, the decline in segment revenue was due to softness in subcontractor revenue, stemming mostly from COVID-related delays on two very large projects in Southern California, which is only partially offset by the revenue contribution from the TrafficCast acquisition. At this time, the various projects are moving forward, and we expect the segment to recoup the subcontractor revenue over the next couple of quarters. During the third quarter, the segment's direct labor revenue, in other words, our non-subcontractor revenue was consistent with our expectations. Similarly, the heightened COVID restrictions led to some delays in a couple of large orders and impacted the segment's third quarter net bookings, which were recorded as $6.8 million versus $13 million in the same prior year period. About 43% of the segment's third quarter net bookings will be recognized in the future as annual recurring revenue. That's up from 26% last year. As a reminder, we typically experience a significant sequential decrease in third quarter bookings due to various seasonal factors. Therefore, the year-over-year comparison is the most relevant. We had anticipated a potential year-over-year decline in bookings due to a relatively higher concentration of large orders in a period often affected by seasonality, but the abrupt reinstitution of COVID mitigation measures in parts of the U.S. exacerbated the situation, causing a larger fluctuation in net bookings than expected. That said, the delayed orders have not been canceled, and we expect to begin booking at least some of these orders originally contemplated for the third quarter as early as our fourth quarter. Notable third quarter contract awards and our bookings in the period include a four-year on-call contract with an $8 million ceiling from Hillsboro County, Florida, for specialized consulting and Software-as-a-Service. As we receive future task orders under this contract, the orders will be recorded as bookings, but they were not recorded as such in the third quarter. A five-year on call contract with a $5 million ceiling from the Florida Department of Transportation District 7 for traffic signal retiming and specialized consulting, again, against which we'll receive future task orders that will then be recorded as bookings; a $600,000 task order from the Virginia Department of Transportation to develop a strategy and roadmap for the commonwealth to achieve connected and automated vehicle readiness; and a contract with an undisclosed multi-line insurance company for an undisclosed value to complete a proof-of-concept related to the use of our mobility intelligence software solutions to help determine auto insurance rates. The Transportation Systems segment ended the quarter with a backlog of $64 million, which represents a 3% sequential increase and a 14% year-over-year increase. The TrafficCast acquisition contributed $9.4 million in backlog to this segment. Now moving to our Roadway Sensors segment. This segment reported record third quarter revenue of $14.1 million, which represents a 23% increase versus the same prior year period. This rate of growth is well above the category, 6% to 8% historical growth rate, demonstrating that we continue to take market share based on our superior product performance and customer support. In addition to strong revenue performance, the Roadway Sensors segment made tangible progress against various other important initiatives. For example, the segment received an approximate $3 million contract that provide the Coachella Valley association of Governments, a combined detection, travel time and cellular vehicle-to-infrastructure communication system that will be booked and deployed over the next several quarters. The segment continued to develop our Cisco relationship by, among other things, finalizing a new contractual mechanism for Iteris to provide Cisco products to Texas public agencies on preferable terms. The segment completed a successful pilot and launched a new managed service that utilizes process virtualization to continuously and proactively monitor intersections and arterials equipped with Iteris advanced detection sensors. And the segment continued to deliver against critical launch milestones for our next-generation detection platform that will include, among other competitive new features, high-definition video and artificial intelligence for best-in-class object classification. With that, I'll let Doug comment on our financial results, after which I'll conclude my remarks. Doug?
Doug Groves
Thank you, Joe. Good afternoon, everyone. As a reminder, please see the company's 10-Q filing, press release and supplemental financial metrics document, all of which are posted on our IR website for a further description of matters under discussion during the call today. As Joe noted, the results of the Agriculture and Weather Analytics segment are reported as discontinued operations in our SEC filings. And today, my comments will be focused only on our continuing operations. Likewise, the TrafficCast acquisition, which closed on December 7, 2020, are included in our results for the quarter, albeit one month. The commercial business, which is all software, is included in our Transportation Systems segment results. And the public sector business, which is primarily IoT devices, is included in our Roadway Sensors business results. Consistent with the last several quarters' results, we've seen the performance of the business in the third quarter continuing to improve with favorable year-over-year trends in certain key metrics, including top line growth, increasing backlog and margin expansion. We continue to diligently manage our costs, which is helping to drive the year-over-year operating margin expansion. Now I'll move on to the details of the third quarter results. The total revenue for fiscal 2021 third quarter increased 5.4% to $28.2 million compared to $26.7 million in the same quarter a year ago. Our gross margins in the third quarter were 41.4% compared to 39.8% from the same quarter last year. The increase in gross margins was driven primarily by better product mix and increased volume in the Roadway Sensors segment. Operating expenses in the third quarter were $12 million and flat compared to the prior year quarter. As we mentioned on our second quarter earnings call, we're continuing to improve our profitability year-over-year and remain focused on solid execution to drive improved results. We reported a GAAP operating loss in the third quarter of $300,000, which included $300,000 in acquisition costs compared with a GAAP operating loss of $1.35 million in the same quarter a year ago. The GAAP net loss from continuing operations in the third quarter was $261,000 or a loss of $0.01 per share as compared with a $1.25 million loss or $0.03 loss per share last year. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter increased $1 million to $1.45 million or 5.2% of revenue, which compares to $512,000 or 1.9% of revenue in the third quarter of last year. Now let me turn to our segment results. Our Transportation Systems revenue for the third quarter was $14.1 million compared to $15.3 million in the prior year quarter, a decrease of 8%. As Joe mentioned, this segment was negatively impacted by temporary COVID-related supply chain and logistics issues that affected some of our subcontractors and led to project and revenue recognition delays, particularly in Southern California. During the period, the segment's direct labor revenue was consistent with our expectations. Segment level operating income for the third quarter was $2 million compared to $2.7 million from the prior year quarter, and the related operating margins were 14% compared to 17.4% last year. The margin decrease was primarily driven by the decreased volume in the segment. Our Roadway Sensors revenue the third quarter was $14.1 million compared to $11.4 million in the prior year quarter or an increase of 23%. The segment operating income was $2.7 million for the quarter compared to $1.5 million last year, and the related operating margins were 19.2% versus 13% last year. The improvement in margins was driven primarily by the increased volume and improved product mix. Corporate expenses in the third quarter were $4.3 million compared to $5.2 million in the prior year. The prior year period did include $553,000 in executive severance and transition charges. Turning to liquidity and capital resources. The total cash and short-term investments were $22.5 million at the end of the third quarter. The decrease quarter-over-quarter and over prior year was a result of the $15 million payment made in closing the TrafficCast acquisition. We spent $283,000 in capital expenditures and capitalized software costs in the quarter, and we expect these expenditures to remain under 1% of revenue for the whole year, reflecting our asset-light business model. Operating cash flow from continuing operations was down $898,000 compared to Q2 and was impacted by the decreased profitability, but also the timing of certain inventory and accounts payable activity. We remain focused on improving our profitability and cash generation to fund our expected future growth. So in summary, we're pleased to report another solid quarter of performance, along with closing the TrafficCast acquisition despite seeing some revenue impacts in Q3 due to COVID-19. We remain focused on improving the business and vigorously managing our working capital and cost structure to improve margins despite a difficult operating environment. With that, I will turn the call back over to Joe. Joe?
Joe Bergera
Great. Thank you, Doug. Although we expect the economic environment to remain volatile and uncertain in the near term, we do expect our rate of revenue growth in the fourth quarter to increase compared to the rate of growth in our third quarter, and we remain bullish about the long-term prospects for the smart mobility infrastructure management market. Indeed, mobility of the service, vehicle electrification, vehicle-to-infrastructure integration and connected and automated vehicles represent favorable secular trends. We'll continue to shift the allocation of transportation infrastructure budget from traditional pick-and-shovel projects to advance technology initiatives. And these same trends will foster new software-enabled service delivery models that will continue to change our transportation agencies at all levels of government fulfill their missions. Vitesco mobility platform is a key element of our strategy to capture these public sector opportunities. And with the recent acquisition of TrafficCast, we've added intellectual property to our ClearMobility platform that positions us to address new commercial markets as well. TrafficCast commercial line of business developed software that collects, filters and models real-time traveler information and traffic incident data for global media companies and other commercial customers. The public sector line of business provides sensors and related software that helps state and local agencies measure, visualize and manage traffic flow. We believe the acquisition of TrafficCast will enhance Iteris' leadership in the smart mobility infrastructure management market by among other things, accelerating the development of our clear mobility platform. On a related note, we recently announced the general availability of the initial release of our ClearMobility Cloud, which is the mobility data management engine, API framework and microservices ecosystem for Iteris' ClearMobility platform. The initial release of ClearMobility Cloud includes a unified portal that enables users to access multiple Iteris software applications for easy navigation between modules within Iteris' ClearGuide transportation performance measure solution. The initial release of ClearMobility Cloud also facilitates integration between ClearGuide and the IRS open-sourced advanced traffic management system. From an operating perspective, both our Transportation Systems and Roadway Sensors segments continue to experience healthy demand despite the overall economic environment. And at this time, we believe Iteris has instituted appropriate measures to minimize the probability of direct disruptions to our business. That said, some of our revenue, especially associated with large multielement projects, is dependent on the ability of third parties to navigate COVID-19, and recent history does suggest this will continue to represent a source of near-term risk. The total value of our Transportation Systems sales pipeline is near historic highs, though the pipeline does have a higher than normal concentration of large sales opportunities. This concentration suggests the segment will remain more susceptible than normal to some timing effects or some lumpiness. Similarly, our Roadway Sensors segment continues to experience healthy order flow and an increase in the size of certain purchases. We recorded a $1 million-plus order from the city of Moreno Valley, California in our second quarter. And as mentioned in my earlier remarks, we received an approximate $3 million award from the Coachella Valley Association of Governments in our third quarter. This award is yet to convert to bookings or recognize revenue. In general, the increase in the number of very large orders is a positive development, but it could cause the Roadway Sensors segment to experience some atypical sequential fluctuations in revenue due to the timing of revenue recognition on such deals. Notwithstanding our overall long-term bullishness, we will continue to provide financial commentary only 1 quarter at a time until the economic environment reestablishes some form of equilibrium. And accordingly, our guidance commentary today will focus only on our fourth quarter. As for our fourth quarter, we are pleased to enter the period with a record backlog and an active sales pipeline. But our Transportation Systems segment, as I've said has a high degree of exposure to subcontractor revenue during the fourth quarter period and an unusual prior year comparable compounds that situation. As you may recall, the Transportation Systems segment realized a significant revenue and contribution margin benefited in the prior fourth -- prior year fourth quarter due to the timing of certain project milestones. Given the circumstances in front of the Transportation Systems segment, meaning high exposure to large deals and also the challenging comparable, we expect the segment's revenue growth to be in the mid-single digits in our fiscal 2021 fourth quarter due to our near term -- again, due to our near-term exposure to subcontractor revenue, whereas we expect the revenue growth for our Roadway Sensors segment to be in the mid-teens. This should result in total fourth quarter revenue for the company in the high-single digits. Please note that we are cautiously optimistic about a potential nationwide infrastructure investment initiative, and our expectation regarding fourth quarter results does not assume or anticipate any such investment having an impact in our fiscal 2021 fourth quarter. In terms of profitability, we anticipate the Transportation Systems segment to report a decrease in year-over-year segment level gross margin and operating income dollars due to the segment's current exposure to further short-term delays in subcontractor revenue and again, the unusual prior year comparable. However, we expect the Roadway Sensors segment to report an increase in year-over-year segment level gross margin and operating income dollars as well as an expansion in both margin rates. With corporate expenses expected to be in line with recent quarters, our total net income and adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter is likely to be similar to our third quarter results. Now with that, we'd be delighted to respond to your questions and comments. Operator, do we have any questions?
Operator
We do. [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Jeffrey Van Sinderen with B. Riley. Please go ahead.
Jeffrey Van Sinderen
Maybe you can just talk a little bit more about the supply chain issues with some of the subcontractors, just, I guess, kind of what the nature of those are maybe the status at this point, expected duration? It sounds like it's still going to be a headwind in Q4. And when do you kind of expect those to ramp and the segment to resume organic growth?
Joe Bergera
Yes, Jeff. So excellent questions. And obviously, we're spending a lot of time thinking about those varied things. I don't want to comment on the specific operational issues of specific companies. So I'm going to talk in generalities here, but hopefully it'll provide some useful color. In the particular projects that I talked about, we have a dependency on some equipment which is provided by third-parties. Some of this equipment is signal controller equipment. And in the case of this particular company, the signal controller equipment is actually manufactured outside of the United States. And this particular vendor experienced about 4 to 6 weeks during which manufacturing facility was shut down. It's an international manufacturing facility that was shut down due to COVID. They subsequently resumed manufacturing, but then they encountered issues importing that equipment into the U.S. As a lot of people may be familiar, there is a lot of backlog at a number of our ports right now. And when the equipment was finally received by this customer, the customer is unable to take possession because they had recent -- this figure customer in Southern California was being impacted by some of the more aggressive mitigation measures or shelter-in-place measures that were instituted by the state, and so those measures were particularly severe in Southern California and impacted this agency's workforce. So it's just a series of events that led to an approximate three month delay and prohibited us from proceeding to a critical milestone at which point we would have been able to recognize revenue. At this point, the equipment has been shipped. And I -- actually, I believe it has been received. I'm not sure whether we've cleared the technical milestone, but we would anticipate to do so shortly. So that particular issue, we think we're going to get over and we'll put behind us. But what we're trying to say here is that based on the experience in the third quarter and the fact that the overall environment hasn't changed a lot, we are anticipating that there could be other similar situations like this that might occur in the fourth quarter, and therefore, we're taking a slightly more cautious note. With respect to your question about when we expect this to lift, no one has a crystal ball. These questions are obviously being asked of many people, including all of our public health officials who would also say that this is a very dynamic environment. But I would hope that as we get into our first quarter, we'll start to see some higher degree of renormalization in the broader economy. And as a result, I would like to think that our business would begin to renormalize. But obviously, there's a lot that can happen between now and April 1, and we'll be monitoring that closely. But again, we do feel that, in general, with availability of the vaccines, some other measures that are being taken, not the least of which is potential additional stimulus, we would expect to see things begin to resume some normalcy, hopefully as early as our first quarter. But we'll have more to report on that in March or April.
Jeffrey Van Sinderen
Okay. That's really helpful. And then if we could turn to ClearMobility Cloud for a moment, I know you talked about that during your Analyst Day. You talked a lot about ClearMobility during the Analyst Day, and you spoke to the Cloud launch in your prepared comments today. But could you speak more about the kind of partners that you're aiming to bring on board to integrate with ClearMobility Cloud? And also if you could remind us of the commercial opportunity there?
Joe Bergera
Yes. Sure. There are a number of different types of partners. One obvious partner would be different data providers. As we've talked about in the past, we have a quite mature partnership with Clear technologies, which provides, in particular, a lot of connected vehicle data that we use extensively. There are other potential sources of similar data, and then there are sources of entirely different data that would further enrich our overall data set. And some of these relationships are somewhat not necessarily proprietary, but there's some level of trade secrets, so I don't want to get into discussing all the various parties that we're in conversations with because we think that our know-how is a competitive differentiator, and we don't want to share that with the competition. But I would just say that there are certainly additional data providers that we would like to develop relationships with, and those data sources would be ingested and processed in ClearMobility Cloud. As today, we do with Clear technology data, various agency data and some other third-party data sets. Another logical partner for us would be other application vendors. As I mentioned on this call, in the first release of ClearMobility Cloud, we certified out-of-the-box integration with Iris, which is an open source commonly used ATMs that operates in the cloud. We would expect -- or you can expect that we would likely be announcing relationships with commercial -- other commercial software application vendors or integrations with other open-source software applications such as Iris. And then beyond that, we are also interested in working with solution providers that can incorporate components of our ClearMobility Cloud into their own solution sets. And so those potential partners would be -- likely to be like systems integrators or other traffic engineering and traffic operations firms.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Mike Latimore with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Mike Latimore
Great. Guys -- results there, solid profitability. On the recurring revenue side of things, can you kind of update us on what percent of revenue was recurring in the December quarter? And then what should we think about TrafficCast's contributing to the March quarter?
Joe Bergera
Doug, do you want to take that?
Doug Groves
I'll take that one, Joe. Yes. So Mike, in the current quarter, the recurring revenue was about 20% because we only had 1 month worth of TrafficCast's revenue in our quarter. Because that business is almost 60% software recurring revenue, we expect that 20% to start moving towards the mid-20s, like 24% over the next several quarters as we get them under our belt and their results into our consolidated results. So it will increase in addition to the bookings that we've been recording the last few quarters, which have been heavily weighted to annual recurring revenue. So I think we're expecting that we're going to continue to grow that much faster than the top line as part of our overall strategy and improving the business model. As far as the run rate goes, I think in our press release, we put out that they were doing a trailing 12 months at about $14.3 million a year in revenue. And obviously, we're going to grow that as well.
Mike Latimore
Got it. Okay. And then on the recurring piece of your business, are the EBITDA margins on that similar to the overall business? Or are they a little worse because you're investing a little bit better? How should we think about just kind of EBITDA margins on your recurring revenue?
Doug Groves
So the EBITDA margins definitely will continue to improve with TrafficCast in the portfolio. As we've talked about, I think, in the past with investors, to our related SaaS platforms today are subscale. And I think as they grow, we'll use operating leverage, but we're certainly expecting to see margin expansion with TrafficCast and more recurring revenue.
Mike Latimore
Okay. Got it. Great. And then I guess just last one. Will you be able to, over time, bundle some of your hardware sales into these maybe larger deals -- or I guess, small city deals, too? And then could that become part of recurring revenue?
Doug Groves
Well, that's absolutely our strategy. When we think about the platform, the ClearMobility platform, that's all the products and services that we offer. And we've got several initiatives underway to go to market. I'll say more as 1 company than maybe we have been in the past. So product revenues, by definition, are not recurring, but the services that will go along with it that we're able to bundle certainly will. So that's going to be part of what we're doing going forward.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We'll take our next question from Joe Osha with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
Joe Osha
Two relatively simple financial questions and then a product question. We've kind of talked around this, but can you just help us understand what the non-TrafficCast organic rate of growth for the business in aggregate was in the December quarter? If you want to talk about that sequentially or year-on-year, it's fine. I'm just trying -- I think I can take that number out, but it would be easier to just ask you.
Doug Groves
Sure. So year-over-year in that 5% growth, a little less than half of that was TrafficCast-related revenue as we only have them for one month, so it was -- well, it's disclosed in our 10-Q, it was about $800,000.
Joe Osha
Right. Okay. So the -- about half of that year-on-year growth comes from the one month of TrafficCast?
Doug Groves
Right.
Joe Osha
Okay. And then looking into the March quarter, is there a decent amount of linearity so we can just roughly take that in December traffic cash number and sort of multiply it by 3 to get a sense as to how that's impacting the March quarter?
Doug Groves
No. I mean we think it's going to do a little better. I mean the good thing about the business is about half of it is software. It's SaaS revenue, so it's really pretty much straight line. But the hardware, the IoT devices, just like our hardware business can be a little bit lumpy with big orders weighing any given quarter. So I think we're going to do a little bit better the first month under our ownership. We're in to know them, they're getting to know us, so we would expect the fourth quarter revenue to do better than just a straight-line of the one month we had in our third quarter.
Joe Osha
Okay. And by hardware, that the TrafficCast hardware component result moved to -- ?
Doug Groves
Exactly. Yes.
Joe Bergera
Correct.
Joe Osha
I like the name. And then just to help us understand a little bit at the operating level, how should we be thinking your -- your SG&A and R&D, 10.1% and 1.4% in the December quarter, I mean is that -- to what extent is that a reasonable good bogie for a run rate going forward for those line items?
Doug Groves
Well, I think it is. I mean that's what in our comments said. It was flat year-over-year, and that's really been our objective. So I mean I would expect R&D to probably reach about 5% of revenues on an annualized basis, but we should be able to keep SG&A close to what it has been running.
Joe Osha
Well, you're down here in Europe, but you drop some business out. I mean that's -- there's a lot of puts and takes here, that's why I'm asking the question. Last year, it was 14.1%, so I'm just trying to understand what that run rate is going forward.
Doug Groves
It's about what it would be that we experienced in the third quarter, so it's pretty all right.
Joe Osha
Okay. And then the last question is just shifting to the technology side. You talked about Clear and other platforms there. I mean there's an enormous proliferation of these data aggregation platforms out there. At this point, you've got not just Clear and Inrix, but some of the Orbital folks or Jesper, you got Aspire, Plant Orbiting, all this stuff, have you thought at all about maybe kind of broadening the funnel in terms of the type of data set that you invest?
Joe Bergera
Yes, we have. Now that's not to say that we are stepping back from our relationship with Clear. And Clear is a fantastic partner. We utilize both their mapping technology, and they also provide incredibly valuable data to us, and we expect to continue to collaborate closely. But to your point, Joe, there are various data providers. And we think that part of our secret sauce is getting the best data from the best sources and then aggregating that and applying our domain knowledge to present valuable insights to our end customers. So we're very focused on getting the best possible data, again, to benefit our larger data set, like there's no one provider in our opinion that has access to all of the data. And of course, we have access to our own effectively proprietary data through our own detection products as well, so I don't want people to lose sight of that. But again, we're very focused on getting the most robust data set possible. We think that we're uniquely able to do that because of our domain expertise. Our own position at the intersection and in a number of cases, our trusted adviser relationship with agencies through which we're able to get access to data that's not necessarily proprietary because agencies are in the business of providing the public with information, but our know-how we think is unique. And therefore, we think that the resulting aggregate data sets, our data sets, are unique and therefore more valuable than what other data platforms are you able to provide.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Mike Shlisky with Colliers Securities. Please go ahead.
Mike Shlisky
I kind of wanted to start by asking about the kind of medium and long-term outlook here. Given what happened in this quarter and what may happen in the fiscal fourth quarter, I mean, is there any sense as to whether the longer-term outlook for, let's say, the next fiscal year? You've been saying you can get mid-teens organic growth most of the time, is that number at risk? Do you still think you can get that if COVID doesn't get any worse from here?
Joe Bergera
Yes. So Mike, that's -- it's a tough question to answer, and we've been very intentionally just talking one quarter at a time, about one quarter at a time because -- I mean nobody has a crystal ball, and we continue to be amazed at the pace of change in that extremes of the gyrations that we seem to be going through from week-to-week and even sometimes day-to-day. So it's super, super hard to predict. But I would say that there are some things that we're monitoring. And 1 is, for example, state budgets. And there's been a lot of research lately, which is generally consistent with what I think we talked about, to some degree, at our investor conference, which is that its state budgets have actually -- the revenue is coming closer to expectations than most states predicted. And actually, a number of states, including California, for example, which is probably our largest market, is expected to have a revenue surplus this year. So things are not -- at least at the state level or probably not as dire as people had expected. And also, we, being focused in the transportation infrastructure market, benefit from having dedicated sources of revenue that cannot be redirected under most state law. And so we're cautiously optimistic about next year given where things stand in terms of the current state budget situation and the current outlook, but, of course, the market is highly -- or the environment is highly unpredictable, and we'll certainly know more in March than we know today.
Mike Shlisky
All right. And I also want to get a little more information about what you called -- I think they were called awards, that aren't actually being called bookings or backlog right now because you have two or three countries that you mentioned in your prepared comments.
Joe Bergera
Right.
Mike Shlisky
I guess I just wanted to kind of like figure out, is that comment -- I haven't heard that happen too many times with Iteris here, so is that a common thing? And then is this ultimately going to end up being backlog, all of it? Or does it kind of get booked and burned in the same quarter? It's a bit more short-term than other kinds of business that you currently do?
Joe Bergera
Yes. So yes, we don't get a ton of these contracts. We do -- you might recall that in the past, we've talked about our federal highway administration contract or we maintained the connected vehicle reference architecture for United States. We will get awarded large indefinite delivery and definite quantity contracts to support that program, and then there'll be subsequent task orders against that. So we have in the past talked about those contract awards and then the subsequent task orders. But at the state level, it's actually pretty unusual for us to win such large. In this case, Florida calls them on-call contracts, but they're essentially indefinite delivery indefinite quantity contracts, and we don't get many of those at the state level, so that was somewhat unique. And we thought it was noteworthy that we were awarded, between the two contracts, $8 million in on-call contracts from the state. And yes, we would expect that the full $8 million will eventually convert to a formal order. It will become a booking, and then it'll go into our backlog and eventually, it will convert to revenue. It's -- the contracts have different periods to them, but I do want to point out that they're both multiyear contracts.
Mike Shlisky
Okay. So you spent the time, got the bid in, got the award because you just can't efficiently put into your backlog because if not...
Joe Bergera
Yes, it's not showing up -- yes it's not showing up as a booking, and it's not in our backlog at this point. But it is -- those are sizable deals, particularly at the state level, and so we wanted to make sure that people understood that we did receive those awards. They're not in our reported bookings number or a backlog number for the December 31 period.
Mike Shlisky
Got it. And again, just looking at the growth
Joe Bergera
And it will convert to revenue.
Mike Shlisky
Yes. Just kind of -- just trying to look at it from a over versus the prior year or the prior quarter, it was very little of this type of business last quarter and in the prior year. Is that correct?
Joe Bergera
That's correct. Yes, yes. I mean we try to be very explicit when we differentiate between awards and task orders or bookings, and the only notable IDIQ that we've recently announced was that the FHWA contract extension. Occasionally, we'll also win similar contracts in Texas, but we haven't done so recently. And these two deals in Florida we thought were notable, and we wanted to make sure that people were aware that we had won those awards.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We'll take our next question from Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.
Ryan Sigdahl
Just one follow-up for me here is -- so based on the segment guidance you gave, kind of mid-teens growth percent or mid-single-digit systems. Does that include the TrafficCast acquisition?
Doug Groves
Yes, it does.
Ryan Sigdahl
So if I assume kind of the $14 million, break that down by quarter, it implies negative low single-digit organic growth in Q4. Is that correct?
Doug Groves
On the base business, we're expecting it to be about flat and maybe possibly down just depending on timing on a couple of big orders that we're working on.
Joe Bergera
And Ryan, just -- Ryan, just as a reminder, too, I mean, we've got a couple of things that are working against us in this particular period. One is the overall environment, which we talked about. But also, I just wanted to restate that we have a very unusual comparable due to a sizable amount of revenue recognition, which occurred in the prior fourth quarter, and that was due to -- just simply to timing on a number of large projects where we ended up hitting milestones. And therefore, these are fixed price -- fixed time, fixed price deals, and so we ended up taking all that revenue in the period. And also recognizing all that contribution margin, there was no expense associated with that revenue in the prior year. So we have a very unusual comparable, I just want to make sure everybody understands that.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] It appears there are no further questions in our queue. I'll turn the conference back to Joe Bergera for any additional or closing remarks.
Joe Bergera
I appreciate that, operator. Thank you very much. We appreciate everybody's support and the thoughtful questions. This is a very complicated period, and we've done our best to try to explain the puts and takes and to answer various questions. We're always happy to take additional questions from investors, and so we encourage people to reach out to us any time if you have specific questions. Additionally, I wanted to note that we will be presenting at the JMP Securities Technology Conference taking place from March 1 through March 2. If you're participating at that conference, that's a great opportunity to schedule a visit with us, and we hope to hear from you. In the meantime, we're continuing to work very hard through this dynamic period. And we look forward to updating you again on our continued progress when we report our fiscal 2021 fourth quarter and our full year results. And with that, we'll conclude today's call. Thank you, again, everyone.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. We appreciate your participation. You may now disconnect.