Thank you for joining us today for Hovnanian Enterprises fiscal 2008 year-end earnings conference call. By now you should have already received a copy of the earnings press release. However, if anyone is missing a copy and would like one, please contact Donna Roberts at 732-383-2200. We will send you a copy of the release and ensure you are on the company’s distribution list. There will be a replay of today’s call. This telephone replay will be available after the completion of the call and run for one week. The replay can be accessed by dialing 888-286-8010, pass code 95838352. Again, the replay number is 888-286-8010, pass code 95838352. An archive of the webcast slides will be available for 12 months. This conference is being recorded for rebroadcast and all participants are currently in a listen only mode. Management will make some opening remarks about the fourth quarter results and then open up the line for questions. The company will also be webcasting a slide presentation along with the opening comments from management. The slides are available on the investors page of the company’s website at www.KHov.com. Those listeners who would like to follow along should log on to the website at this time. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the cautionary language about the forward-looking statements contained in the press release also applies to any comments made during this conference call and to the information in the slide presentation. I would now like to turn the call over to Ara Hovnanian, President and Chief Executive Officer of Hovnanian Enterprises. AA Thank you for participating in today’s call to review the results of our fourth quarter and fiscal year ’08. Joining me today are Larry Sorsby, Executive Vice President and CFO, Paul Buchanan, Senior Vice President and Chief Accounting Officer, Brad O’Connor, Vice President and Corporate Controller, David Valiaveedan, Vice President of Finance and Jeff O’Keefe, Director of Investor Relations. As you are well aware, the housing market remains challenging. Some of the obstacles we face today include rising unemployment levels, a steady stream of foreclosure, dwindling consumer confidence and continued disruptions in the credit and financial markets. This presents a very difficult backdrop for just about any industry today and makes for particularly hard times for home builders. If you turn to Slide One, you can see the impact these factors have had on our full year results. We gave all this data and more in our press release which we issued yesterday so as we did in prior quarters I’m not going to review all of the data points but instead I’m going to focus on the key parameters driving our performance and the current market conditions as well as what we’re doing to manage through this current time. Our results are reflective of the challenging market conditions that persist and have, in fact, deteriorated since we reported our third quarter earnings in the beginning of September. Our goal today is to maximize cash flow even at the expense of margins. We are happy in this environment to clear land off of our balance sheet as long as our cash flow is positive. On Slide Two you can see that with that broad operating principal in mind, we generated $175 million of cash flow during the fourth quarter of 2008. Increasing and preserving our cash position is very much a focus with every decision we make today. We ended the year with $838 million in cash as you see in Slide Three. This was slightly above the guidance of about $800 million of cash that we gave on September 3rd. The world has changed a number of times since the beginning of September but we were able to reach our cash generation targets. Looking forward, given the continued deterioration in the housing market, generating cash flow is clearly going to be more challenging. However, we will continue to move forward with projects when cash flow makes sense in order to maximize our liquidity. Of note, we do expect to get our federal tax refund in February of ’09 for about $145 million. On Slide Four we show a breakdown of the 23,000 thousand plus lots that we have owned at the end of the year. Approximately 53% of those lots were 80% or more finished, 18% had between 30% to 80% of the improvement costs already in place, the remaining 29% were less than 30% finished. Given the fact that more than half of the lots that we own are largely finished and our net contracts for ’08 were down 41% year-over-year we did not feel the necessity to spend a significant amount of cash on land development this year. We perform a lot recovery analysis to determine the amount of cash we can generate by building and selling a home on an owned lot. If we are unable to obtain a reasonable recovery of our land costs relative to the perceived long term value, we will mothball the community. We will save that land until such time as the market improves and we can generate higher returns and more meaningful cash flow. So far, we have mothballed land in 54 communities. An additional 22 communities were mothballed during the fourth quarter, most of these were in California. The book value at the year-end of these communities was $550 million net of an impairment balance of $290 million. For our option land, we continue to actively renegotiate, extend and modify land option take downs as well as walk away from others. Our operating teams regularly review each of the option contracts and renegotiate the lot price at the timing of take downs. We use a rigorous analysis and review the most current comparative information on sales and pricing for our market competition to predict potential absorption and pricing going forward. We only move forward in taking down additional option lots when the terms have been successfully renegotiated to where the terms make a compelling economic case. In some conditions this includes assuming that the sales pace and price decline further. Before we take down a single lot it has to be personally approved by me. Slide Five shows the declines we have seen in our owned and option lot position. As of October 31, total lots were down 67% from the peak that we reached in April, 2006. While we are currently focused on reducing our consolidated land supply, we’re cognoscente that at some point the market will hit bottom and banks will let more non-performing real estate assets and will mark the assets down to the levels that will allow them to move it off their books. Our goal is to team up with joint venture partners to take advantage of the land prices that will inevitably become more attractive both directly and through the purchase of loans. We continue to have discussions with potential JV partners to establish ventures that would take advantage of land at the bottom of the market. Some of the names of the private equity and hedge funds that we are talking to today have changed from the ones we were talking to months ago. Given the turmoil in the capital markets, some that were interested this past summer have stepped aside but, new interest have developed from others that have stepped forward. We are not ready to buy land today given the market dynamics but getting the venture structure set up ahead of time when we do see opportunities to buy land, we can move quickly. We’ll keep you updated on the progress in completing this joint venture structure. Besides reducing our land supply, one of the other levers that we continue to pull is managing our SG&A costs. One of the largest components of this is the dollars for salaries and benefits for our associates. If you turn to Slide Six, you see that through the end of November, we’ve reduced our staffing levels by 65% from the peak level of associates in June of 2006. As our community count, net contracts and backlog continue to shrink, we will continue to right size our business based on the current activity that we are generating in each of our markets. While we continue to make good progress in reducing the absolute dollars spent on SG&A, on the right hand of Slide Seven, you’ll see that our total dollars were down 26% year-over-year. The biggest challenge is with respect to the SG&A percentage of total revenues. This percentage has increased again in 2008 to 13.9%. For the fourth quarter, the percentage was even higher at 15.2% but that is slightly lower than the 15.6% or the 15.3% in the second and third quarters of ’08. If you look at the left hand side of the Slide, you’ll see that our average SG&A costs has been about 11% over this period of time so we still have more work to do in order to lower our SG&A costs down to traditional levels. It’s been hard to cut SG&A as fast as our business has slowed down particularly when you look at the absorption levels we are achieving at a community level. We will likely not be able to get back to historical levels of SG&A until the sales pace per community returns to more normalized levels. Slide Eight shows a 14 year history of net contracts per community. In ’08 we hit a new low with 18.3 net contracts per community. The average over this span was about 42 net contracts per community so we’re significantly below normal levels. If you look at a quarterly rate, on Slide Nine, you can see that the fourth quarter was below the pace of the second and third quarter and furthermore, sales in November continued to be weak and remain at even weaker levels. It remains a very difficult environment out there. I’ll turn it over to Larry Sorsby to discuss gross margin and the charges we took in the fourth quarter as well as some other topics in greater detail. LL The slow homes sales pace and lower home pricing trends have dramatically decreased our revenues and adversely impacted our gross margins. Our gross margin has been in the single digits for the past couple of quarters as you can see on Slide 10. During the fourth quarter of 2008, our home building cost of sales was reduced by $41.7 million from the reversal of land impairments taken in prior periods. The fourth quarter gross margin of 4.7% was lower than we anticipated primarily for a few reasons. First, we continued to be more focused on cash flow than on our margins. We’ve been aggressive on lowering home prices in order to spur sales activity. Second, when we walk away from lots in a community or adjust land development budgets where we have already delivered homes and continue to deliver homes, we need to spread the common costs over a fewer number of homes overall and over the homes previously delivered during the year which negative impacts our gross margins. We walked away from 6,233 lots in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2008. The impact was meaningful in the fourth quarter because we needed to make adjustments for increased common costs for all deliveries that took place in every one of those communities for the entire fiscal year. Another of the reasons that our gross margin is low is that we were relatively aggressive on company and land acquisitions late in the housing cycle. So, the land that we own is at a relatively higher basis when compared to today’s home prices. The good news here is that we don’t own as much land as some of our peers do on a comparable basis. If you turn to Slide 11, you can see how our owned land position stacks up to those of our peers. It is sorted according to owned land supply based on trailing 12 month deliveries. This is what I call the race to zero. Even at a 2.2 year supply based on trailing four quarter deliveries, we still own more land than we would like to own right now but compared to our peers we are in relatively good shape. The good news is that each quarter we work through more of our owned land and we will eventually get through all of it and we’ll be able to replenish our land supply with lower cost land at the bottom of the housing cycle which will help our gross margins increase back to normalized levels. Turning to Slide 12, you can see our land supply by our publically reported segments. I’d like to point out that our owned land position in the west which is entirely made up of California for us actually increased by about 1,300 lots this past quarter. However, we did not buy any new lots in California. This increase in lots is a result of us consolidating a previously unconsolidated land development joint venture after our partner was unwilling to pay his share of property taxes and reengineering costs going forward. There was no debt associated with this joint venture and no further financial obligations required for us. Of course, we will have to continue to pay property tax on the land going forward. I want to reiterate that there was no new money put in to this land. We had already invested the money in the lots via our investment in the joint venture so we could have walked away too but we would have gotten zero dollars from the land had we walked away. We believe that we can still sell the land for something with or without a house on it. So, we now own the lots outright and they are included in our consolidated lot count. While I’m on the topic of joint ventures, at October 31, 2008 we had invested $71.1 million in seven land development and 10 home building joint ventures. This is a significant decline in our investments in joint ventures and a $61.5 million of the decline is a result of the consolidation of our land development joint venture in California I just described. This decrease combined with the write offs we’ve taken in our joint ventures has caused the leverage at our joint ventures to increase. Turning to Slide 13, our debt to cap of all of our joint ventures in the aggregate was 57%. We financed our joint ventures solely on a [inaudible] course basis. The facts speak for themselves, we are now three years in to this downturn and we have not had any margin or capital calls on any of the debt associated with our joint ventures. We do not have any debt arrangements or guarantees at any of our joint ventures that require us to provide equity capital beyond our initial commitment to our joint ventures in the future. Unless we determine that it would be in our best economic interest, we don’t anticipate a need for us to voluntarily invest additional cash to support our joint ventures beyond the amount that was budgeted to be invested by the partners. In some of our joint venture agreements we do have completion guarantees. However, in our largest joint venture with Blackstone there is no completion guarantee. Most of our joint ventures that do have completion guarantees are in advanced stages of construction and therefore the risk associated with completion guarantees are [inaudible]. At this point the majority of our joint ventures are in the latter stages of development and thus the amount of budgeted equity investment has largely already been made. In fact, we expect to generate cash from our joint ventures as a number of them are in the wind down stage of delivering homes without significant additional development dollars needed. During the fourth quarter, we wrote down our equity investment in Hovstone, the joint venture we formed in March, 2005 with Blackstone to buy Town & Country Homes to zero. We are in the process of negotiating with the banks to restructure the Hovstone debt to allow us to build through the remaining land supply. We report significant details on the balance sheet and profits of our unconsolidated joint ventures and our 10Qs and in our 10K so you can look there for more details. I’ll now talk about the land related charges that we took during the fourth quarter. We walked away from 6,233 lots in the fourth quarter and took a write off of $47.5 million related to these option lots. On Slide 14 it shows the geographic breakout f these charges which represent the amount invested in these options through option deposits and also any predevelopment dollars we had invested in getting this land through the approval process. Our remaining investment and option deposits has also dropped dramatically from a peak of $466 million at the end of the second quarter fiscal 2006 to $69.9 million at October 31, 2008. $41.2 million of cash deposits and the other at $28.7 million deposits being held with letters of credit. Additionally we have another $91.8 million invested in predevelopment expenses. The next category of pre-tax charges relates to impairments. As shown on the same Slide, we incurred impairment charges of $215.6 million related to land and communities that we own in the fourth quarter. This is significantly higher than the $80.2 million of impairment charges we took in the third quarter of 2008 and is indicative of continued downward pressure on home prices. More than half of the impairments were on land we owned in California, a market that remains particularly difficult today. We test all of our communities at the end of each quarter for impairments whether or not the community is open for sale. If home prices continue to deteriorate, we will see additional impairments in future quarters. Additionally, during the fourth quarter of ’08 we recorded $21.4 million for our portion of impairments, walk-aways and investments in our joint ventures. Looking at all of our communities in the aggregate including mothball communities, we have a book value of $2.2 billion net of $719 million of impairments which were recorded on 181 of our communities. Turning to Slide 15, it shows our investment in inventory broken out in to two distinct categories: sold; and unsold homes which include homes that are in backlog started, unsold homes and model homes as well as the land underneath those homes. Secondly, land both finished lots and lots underdevelopment which are associated with all other owned lots that do not have a sales contract or vertical construction. We have reduced our total dollar investment in these two categories by 50% since our peak levels in July, 2006 and we plan to make further progress in reducing our inventories during 2009. Turning to Slide 16, you can see that we also continue to reduce the number of started unsold homes. We ended the year with 1,275 started unsold homes which is a decline of 61% from peak levels of July, 2006. Another component of the impairments that we took during the fourth quarter was for our goodwill which was from acquisitions that we made in the Texas and New Jersey in 1999 and in Washington DC during 2001. Each of these acquisitions had been solid profit producers through fiscal 2007. However, based on today’s environment and the accounting rules that dictate the impairment analysis for goodwill, we impaired the entire $32.7 million of remaining goodwill we had booked for these acquisitions years ago. During the fourth quarter we also impaired the remaining balance of our definite life intangibles which was only $2.7 million. That leaves us with the last major area of charges for the quarter which is related to taxes and the FAS 109 current and deferred tax asset valuation allowance. We concluded that we should book an additional $169.5 million after tax non-cash tax asset valuation allowance during the fourth quarter. While our tax asset valuation allowance charge was non-cash in nature, it did affect our net worth by the same $169.5 million during the quarter and $625.3 million to date. The FAS 109 charge was for GAAP purposes only and is a non-cash valuation allowance against our current deferred tax assets. If you add back the impact of this valuation allowance to our equity, our net debt to cap would have been 63.6% as of the end of the October quarter instead of 83.5% net debt to cap including the impact of deducting the valuation allowance. Looking at it without the FAS 109 allowance is a more accurate picture of our leverage compared to our peers because some builders have not yet been required to take the FAS 109 allowances. Let me reiterate what I said on our conference call since this issue raised its head a year ago. The FAS 109 tax asset valuation allowance is for GAAP purposes only. For tax purposes our tax assets may be carried forward for 20 years and we expect to utilize those tax loss carry forwards as we generate profits in the future. On the subject of our expectations to utilize these net operating loss carry forwards, NOLs, and built in losses, we recently approved two steps in a vote at a special meeting of shareholders two weeks ago that should decrease the likelihood that we would cause a change of control that would trigger the IRS Code 382. This has become a relevant topic with one of our peers recently commenting that they had triggered a change in control. We have a reasonable ownership margin before we trigger an ownership change under Section 382 of the tax code and the steps that we just approved by shareholders should keep us out of harm’s way. Now, let me update you on the mortgage market and our mortgage finance operation. If you’ll turn to Slide 17 with average FICO scores at 723, our recent data indicates that our average credit quality of mortgage customers remains higher than national averages. Turning to Slide 18, we show a breakout of all the various loan types originated by our mortgage operations during all of fiscal 2008 and compare it to all of fiscal 2007. Once again, the percentage of FHA/VA loans increased. During the fourth quarter FHA/VA made up 50% of our volume and for the full year it was 36% of our total loan originations. Even though the availability of mortgage products has been sharply curtailed during the housing downturn, we still have more mortgage products available today than we did six or seven years ago but not as many as we did two years ago. The industry is going back to sound reasonable lending practices. Buyers who have a decent credit history, can verify their job and have the ability to make a modest down payment will continue to have no issues obtaining approvals for loans. However, we did notice that even on loans that historically would have been approved before the advent of subprime and ALTA financing, today they must strictly adhere to all of the underwriting guidelines rather than be able to provide a compelling explanation on slight underwriting deviations and still be approved as previously was the case. On Slide 19, you can see that our cancellation rate increased during the fourth quarter of 2008 to 42%. It had come down slightly for the first couple of quarters this year but has increased again as potential home buyers have become skittish by rising unemployment figures and the deteriorating economic environment. We ended the year with $838 million of cash and do not have any significant debt maturities coming due over the next four years. On Slide 20, you can see that our debt maturities are well structured and our first debt maturity is not until January of 2010 and that one is only $100 million issue. After that, nothing comes due until 2012 and even then it’s only $249 million. In a proactive effort to reduce our debt outstanding, we lost a debt exchange offer late in October, 2008 and closed exchanged earlier this month. While we did not capture as big of a discount as we would have had the exchange been fully subscribed, we did reduce our outstanding debt by $42.1 million and recognized ordinary income at $42.1 million as well, both of which are first quarter 2009 events. We did not undertake this exchange as a distressed proposition. We are pleased to have reduced our total debt and recognized the corresponding increase to our equity. We look at this as a first step. We believe there are other initiatives that we can take to reduce our debt in the future. We intend to look at a number of options that are available to us including additional exchanges. Now, I’ll turn it back over to Ara for some closing comments. AA Over the long term we have faith that a equilibrium balance will be restored. Home building is a cyclical industry that overbuilds for a period of time and then must under build in order to absorb the oversupply. According to the Joint Center of Housing Studies at Harvard University, the long term growth rate of the US primarily household formations supports a substantially higher levels of home building activity than we are currently seeing today. If you turn to Slide 21, you’ll see a table that uses some of the data from the Joint Center of Housing Studies at Harvard. You can see that the components for Harvard’s projections for long term housing demand driven primarily by household formations. Average long term demand is about 1.85 million homes per year. The projections of Moodys and [inaudible] Institute are very comparable. Actual production including mobile homes ranged from about 1 million to 2.2 million during those same 10 years. While there is a cumulative over production based on this methodology from ’03 to ’07 compared to long term demand, the sharp drop off in housing production in ’08 has actually swung us in to a housing deficit from the long term demand perspective. The situation will worsen in ’09 at the current production rate. This creates pent up demand and perpetuates the cycles that our industry is famous for. This of course is based on long term data. In the short term, in the current economic environment, people postpone forming new households, again creating longer term pent up demand. If you turn to Slide 22, you see a significant drop from 2002 to 2006 in the affordability index. This contributed to the housing problem that we are facing today. This occurred primarily because house prices increased significantly during that period. A positive factor for recovery however at the moment is that affordability is now at the highest level its been in decades thanks to continued low rates and dropping home prices. If you turn to Slide 23, this shows you the details that go in to the calculations and I’ll just move right over to the right hand column that shows the October data adjusted for a 5.5% mortgage and actually in the recent days its dropped even lower than that. The median priced home in October was about $182,000 and with a 5.5% mortgage that requires a monthly P&I payment of $826. That represents 16.3% of median income with compared to 25% that’s used in qualifying for the affordable housing index. The annual median family income is $60,840. Annual qualifying income is substantially less than that $39,638. That leads to an affordability index of 153. Again, among the most affordable housing conditions we have seen in decades. If you turn to Slide 24, we show total housing starts over the last 37 years. There are many data points on this Slide that are interesting from a historical perspective but in the interest of time I’ll just point to the last two recent additions. First, you’ll see the dramatic reduction in new home starts, a critical component to reduced inventory and prepare for a recovery. The current production is at historic low levels, 625,000 homes per year is the current annual rate. I think that is the most reduced level of housing production since World War II. Incidentally, some have said housing production should be zero right now to reduce the excess supply and as I showed you earlier, clearly demographically that’s not the case. The real problem is the lack of demand for fear. I’ll get more in to that in a moment. Second, you’ll note the familiar pattern of falling house production driving the economy in to a recession which officially began in the beginning of ’08. That’s characterized on this chart by that grey cross hatched area. We’ve now officially been in a recession for four quarters. If you look historically there was one period where we had a consecutive string of quarters that was longer than that back in the early 1970s. As an industry, we feel that the housing market and economy has deteriorated so significantly that government intervention is needed. A similar situation existed over 35 years ago in the 1970s. If you turn to Slide 25, you see a chart of some of the key metrics at that time. You go to the first column, housing starts, from ’72 to ’74 you can see that housing starts feel during that period from about 2.3 million starts per year to 1.3 million starts per year. That, as if often does, drove GDP to a negative situation in 1974. The unemployment rate began to creep up from ’73 to ’74. The Dow Jones Industrial Average declined about 40% and in fact, peak to trough dropped more than 50% and that helped contributed to Consumer Confidence Index dropping precipitously from 116 to about 43.2. In the middle of the next year following this crisis situation, housing stimulus was introduced. It was a two pronged stimulus of both tax credits and reduced mortgage rates. Unfortunately, it came too late in the year to help the slide of housing starts, they fell to 1.1 million and real GDP continued to be negative as the recession strung on for six quarters. Unemployment shot to 8.5% however, it did change attitudes and confidence. The Dow recovered back to 850, consumer confidence shot all the way up to 94%. The housing stimulus lasted a very brief time however, if you look at the next few years the positive effects continued on for years. Housing starts increased dramatically in ’76 to 1.5 million and then hovered around 2 million for the next couple of years, GDP went positive as the housing recovery pulled the entire economy up with it, unemployment dropped every single year for the next several years, the Dow steadied, consumer confidence steadied and interestingly existing homes sales increased dramatically. Now, in the recent years we’ve seen a similar condition of dropping housing starts. In fact, we have to update this Slide because the most recent housing start data was 625,000 starts per year on an annualized basis based on the November data. Our GDP is negative as you know, unemployment is creeping up, the Dow has gone down in a very significantly way and consumer confidence has dropped significantly similar to the period in 1970s. And finally, existing home sales are dropping dramatically also. A coalition was recently formed called Fix Housing First. It is composed of both home builders and suppliers as well as non-housing related groups like the National Association of Manufacturers, the Business Roundtable, various Chambers of Commerce across the company, not for profit housing agencies, although almost everybody in housing can be called not for profit today, and many others. It is a very broad constituency that understands that housing is the root cause of our economic problems today. In addition to endorsing various forms of foreclosure prevention, the coalition is calling for a two pronged stimulus similar to what worked in 1975, a combination of tax credits for home purchasers and lower mortgage rates. The specifics of the proposal are summarized on Slide 26 along with a comparison to the ineffective attempt at housing stimulus that was passed in July of this year. The first component is a $10,000 to $22,000 tax credit based on the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac conforming loan limits for all home buyers, first time home buyers, move up home buyers, active adult move down home buyers, etc., on any new or used home. One limiting factor is that these tax credits would only be for primary residence it would not apply for investors or second home purchasers. The timing of this tax credit is equally important as we’d like to see the tax credit be able to be monetized simultaneous with the closing. The second component is a mortgage rate buy down. Our proposal is that if you buy a home in the first six months of the program you’d get essentially a 3%, 30 year fixed rate mortgage and if you bought a home in the second six month window you’d get essentially a 4% 30 year fixed rate mortgage. Declining home prices are what caused much of the financial and economical turmoil that we are faced with today. There is not a bridge, road or infrastructure today, we have a housing and a housing finance crisis and if the government wants to enact a stimulus policy that will get to the root cause of the problem, they need to fix housing first. Overall, long term demographic trends are strong but buyers are just sitting on the sidelines today given the downward spiral of home prices and the economic turmoil. We’re confident that a housing stimulus similar to what was enacted and was successful over 35 years ago can halt the falling home values and restore the housing market and confidence as well as the entire economy back to normal conditions as it did back in 1975. More importantly, for our future success we believe Hovnanian Enterprises has the liquidity to ride through this difficult environment. By sticking to our long term strategies of offering a broad product array and maintaining a presence in many markets that will once again present opportunities as the industry rebounds, we feel that we will be very well positioned to participate in the eventually recovery. Obviously the fact that a huge portion of the private home builders will have gone out of business during this severe cycle will help those builders that remain to participate in the inevitable recovery. That concludes my comments and I’d be please to open up the floor for questions. David Goldberg - UBS: I’m trying to get an idea given where the backlog is now as you guys look forward into fiscal ’09 the ability to generate free cash flow based on where you are on a backlog perspective now, how are you thinking about it? And I guess that includes maybe, are you going to be bringing down a level of unsold inventory further in your plans? Ara K. Hovnanian: Larry, do you want to address that? J. Larry Sorsby: As we said in the release, cash flow generation is going to be a little more challenging as conditions have continued to deteriorate out there in terms of pace and sales price. Having said that, our focus remains on cash flow generation even at the expense of margins and yes, as we shrink communities you’ll see our started unsold levels come down. We think they’re at appropriate levels given the community count right now David because you’ve got to have two or three started unsold homes at a community level. Many people wait to buy a home until they’ve actually got theirs sold so they want to get into something relatively quickly. Some of the low-hanging fruit has been taken away and we won’t be able to reduce it nearly as much as we did in 2008 but we will expect to reduce started unsolds somewhat during 2009. David Goldberg - UBS: Ara, you mentioned in your opening comments about maybe some changes in the kind of firms that were interested in looking at joint ventures or partnerships. Can you give us some more color about what kind of firms you’re talking to now, maybe what kind of return requirements they would be looking at relative to the deal that you described a couple calls ago? That seemed like it was going forward and obviously without the land opportunities maybe that stalled it. But how it differs now and maybe what your partners are looking for relative to what they had been looking for in terms of return and in the way they want to participate? Ara K. Hovnanian: As you can imagine there was a lot of turmoil in September, October and November in the financial markets. Some firms were very affected, some were not so affected, and some had an actual improvement in their position in appetite. I think it just changed the players. It didn’t necessarily change the type of players although maybe to some extent we’re seeing a little more interest in the private equity capital versus the hedge funds. But suffice it to say we feel there are plenty of interested parties out there; enough for us to meet our needs. We haven’t felt a huge pressure as I’ve been saying for the last couple of calls to finalize a transaction, frankly because we just don’t see the land opportunities just yet. We think they will come up in ’09 but it’s not as though we have 20 deals that we’re waiting to find a partner on. We don’t at this moment. However we’ve been around for 50 years; we’ve been through these cycles every time; we know we have to be patient. Overall the return criteria really hasn’t changed that much. Overall they’re looking for a mid-20s kind of IRR and based on our 50-year history we think that’s very achievable particularly in buying property at the bottom of the market place. David Goldberg - UBS: And it’s still going vertical within the JVs? Ara K. Hovnanian: Yes, that is still the plan.