Good morning and thank you for joining us for our webcast announcing U.S. Global Investors Results for the Third Quarter of Fiscal Year 2020. I'm Holly Schoenfeldt. If you have any questions during the [technical difficulty] enter them in the questions area of the control panel side bar, which is normally to the right of your screen. Also, you may download a PDF of today's slides by clicking on the red handout button. The presenters for today's program are Frank Holmes, U.S. Global Investors’ CEO and Chief Investment Officer; Lisa Callicotte, Chief Financial Officer; and myself, Holly Schoenfeldt, Marketing and Public Relations Manager. During this webcast, we may make forward-looking statements about our relative business outlook. Any forward-looking statements and all other statements made during this webcast that don't pertain to historical facts are subject to risks and uncertainties that may materially affect actual results. Please refer to our press release and corresponding Form 10-Q filing for more detail on factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from any described today in forward-looking statements. Any such statements are made as of today, and U.S. Global Investors accepts no obligation to update them in the future. On Slide 4, you'll see a quick overview of U.S. Global Investors. We are an innovative investment manager with vast experience in global markets and specialized sectors. Founded as an investment club, the Company became a registered investment advisor in 1968 and has a long standing history of global investing and launching first of their kind investment product, including the first no-load gold fund. U.S. Global is well known for expertise in gold and precious metals, natural resources and emerging markets. Now let's go to Frank Holmes, CEO and CIO for an overview of the period. Frank? Frank E. Holmes: Thank you, Holly. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for participating and hearing our story. And as highlighted, our go-to stock has always been for gold and then it evolved the digital currencies with our substantial investment in HIVE. I'll talk about that in a few minutes. But our balance sheet still remains very, very strong. And we have this reflexive cost structure and monthly difference returns on equity discipline. We've maintained a very low yield and we've also buyback our stock, have done it on an algorithm that is on down days and it's very sort mathematically driven. Next one is I want to really thank all these institutions, in particular, the Royce Funds, Perritt Capital Management and Financial & Investment Management Group. Paul Celeron has been just long-term loyal investors, BlackRock and Vanguard become much more of a indexed funds that have invested in U.S. Global Investors. So next one is dividends. We paid dividends for 10 years now as monthly. Current yield at $1.53 was 1.96%, which was slightly higher than what people are making on money market funds today. And I think we went through everything to try to maintain it. But there's always sort of guidelines and rules that the share repurchase program in motion. The Board approved a repurchase of up to $2.75 million of its outstanding common stock on the open market until the end of this year, December 31, 2020. During the three months ended March 31, the company repurchased 69,000 shares of Class A shares using cash of approximately $68,000, which was more than the previous quarter, because we've had to deal with this meltdown in the capital markets. But this program may be suspended or discontinued at any time. And so we'll make sure if we make any changes, we will send out press releases in a normal fashion. The balance sheet remains to us healthy and strong with no debt. And I'm going to jump in to some of the things that have impacted ah our financials and they continue to do that. The next visual is high. We have a 10 million shares of HIVE. We were co-investor of launching this company. We realized several years ago that we couldn't launch an ETF in the space because of concerns and rightly saw the regulated -- regulatory bodies of HACKER is getting Bitcoin and putting them into an ETF listed at the New York Stock Exchange. That just wasn't going to happen. It wasn’t going to happen in Canada. And so we took that intellectual capital and we invested in the creation of first crypto mining company and started off in Iceland and Sweden. And what's happened with HIVE Blockchain is that it's very volatile. It moves as a 82% correlation with Ethereum price and now is tracking with Bitcoin because it expanded with a recent acquisition. But I wanted to point out to investors here that when you look at this year alone, as Ethereum went from $125 to $280, HIVE Blockchain went up 453%. Then Ethereum fell down from 280 level down to 120, 115 level. The stock corrected 65%. Ethereum then runs again starting in March to just recently over $200 a coin and HIVE immediately starts to run with it. So that impacts every three months. So we can have a great win one quarter and we could turn around and have a basically a hit to our earnings mark-to-market. And I think Lisa will come out with more on that, but I want to understand is that it's going to be the same thing that we were able to launch an ETF and there are flows of the ETF itself was up and down volatile like this that could impact the overall management fees. So this has been our proxy into this space. And I'm happy to see that the other company, Touchwood [ph], has been able to be the best performer of all crypto launching companies, mining companies. HIVE was the very first company. Many me-toos and copycats came along, but HIVE continues to become a proxy for the Ethereum and Bitcoin market. But the next visual is just so important for all investors. Every asset class has its own DNA volatility. And so if you buy gross stock, you have to recognize that we are volatile. And when we take a look at the S&P 500, it's almost the same as Bullion. If you look over 1 day or 10 days, that volatility is both 1%, even though many media people think that Bullion is more volatile than the S&P 500. In fact, it's not. But gold stocks have serve to put their column in there, but gold stocks or gold funds, they are much more volatile. 1 day basis is plus or minus 3% versus 1% for Bullion and over 10 days it's much more volatile. Now when we come to Bitcoin and Ethereum, that’s another level of volatility. Bitcoin is 5x greater than the S&P or gold on a daily basis. Ethereum is 4% percent, 4x greater and look at these data points when you’re looking at 10 day volatility. Well, that shows up and that shows up in HIVE because HIVE correlates close to 90%, between 82% and 90% correlations to these crypto prices. And so that definitely has an impact on our financials when we’re now -- the new rules have started a year ago on mark-to-market EBITDA, we need a long-term investment, everything comes into the mark-to-market. The earnings per share for the quarter, they're impacted by this. And Lisa will talk more about it and comment on it. But this is -- we lost $0.11 for this quarter. Now, that's just all negative. These are the parts they try to explain that, and some other positive parts are coming in. But on the next visual is the quarterly average assets under management. This is an average number. And it's important it doesn't show you the flows that come in at quarter end or month end, but you can see that now with divesture of Galileo and the assets of U.S. Global were slightly rising for March. And that was a lot had to do with the GOAU, the gold assets. But also more important is the JETS. But this is an average number. The next one really gives you a more significant impact of JETS. JETS is a total complex, has seen these numbers coming in at the end of March was the big turn. And now we have April. So the total complex is now back over a $1 billion. And so that has a huge difference and going forward it takes several months because money comes in and goes out of EPS very fluidly. But fortunately, it's been unprecedent. In talking and giving the interviews that anyone that any fund that has had attracted so many assets in a falling price and it's interesting for me was bad news, was good news for JETS. And the same thing happened with HACK. HACK was one of those great ETF ideas and nothing was really growing with HACK until they were hacked till Sony was hacked. And that news all of a sudden flowed up into that industry. The stocks and HACK took off not only the stocks, but the ETF went to a $1 billion. And what has been explained to me is that JETS fell 50% and then a lot of investors came in. And we've commented before in our webcast that we have a lot of hedge funds that go long, a one or two airlines that want to be short. They have to derisk their portfolio and on the short JETS. And another one that wants to be short one, one or two airlines, so they want to make sure that they're protected against industry run, they go long JETS. And what we've seen is of unprecedent amount money coming into it, more of a tactical trade looking for the rebound that's taken place in previous cycles. So I'm going to try to highlight what these drivers are. The next visual is lessons learned from 9/11, SARS 2003, financial crisis at the bottom in March of 2009, but started in 2008, on a need to support the airline industry it became very evident that one in 15 jobs are airline related. The CARES Act merely started to cater to the airline industry in supporting this industry because of the multiplying effect of green jobs here have a huge impact on hotels and tourism. When we look at Las Vegas, there's 200,000 empty beds and 300,000 -- over 300,000 people lost their jobs. And so the fact that most people fly in to Vegas, they don't drive into Vegas, they don't take a train into Vegas, they fly into Vegas. And when we take a look at other tourism and we’ve this [indiscernible] when President Trump stopped all foreign flights coming into America in March, that's when the airline industry really went to a tailspin and you saw flight to travel go from or was running at 2 million flights a year, people flying in America fell down to -- I think the bottom was 80,000. And the fortunate part is it's turned. And I'll get a comment on that. The other sort of really shocking news besides the positive news for JETS is the online brokerage boom. Bad news is good news. New accounts just boomed. Charles Schwab reported over 600,000, TD Ameritrade, 600,000, ETrade, over 300,000 new accounts coming in and this excludes Robinhood. And Robinhood has many more accounts than Charles Schwab. However, the accounts are substantially less and that's where millennials go and trade. And we've heard about them going into the oil ETF because oil fell as lots of coverage, new speculators coming in and trading, and that's what we've seen with JETS, because the airline industry is volatile. It is volatile just like oil is. And it's more volatile than the S&P 500. And so we've seen this new boom. And I think that's very positive and constructive of being energized. The capital markets with new flows coming in and new people staying at home and focused on building their wealth. Airline stocks, the next visual as I show you there on sale. Most discount since 9/11 and that dramatic fall all of a sudden. Eric Balchunas did an interview and I remember vividly it was an all-time low and an isolator looking back, as you can see here and what that really created, another awareness for the JETS ETF as a way to play the space. So we see them talking to people that speculated this industry, it's let's take a look at these visuals. Airline stocks bounce back 6 months after various processes. So this one is looking at 9/11. The bounce back was 80%. Now, this doesn't mean this is going to happen this time because every cycle is different. But there is a probability of enough stimulus and we've seen unprecedented stimulus coming into this economy. Airline stocks bounced back after SARS. So this is looking at what took place in Asia predominantly and in March 2003 to September it was 127 -- 120% bounce back in the stocks. And then we'll go back to the 2009 bottom, March 2009, from the low to the bottom to the top, then we're seeing an 18% bounce. So it's just important for when people say, well, why was all this money coming in? And then Buffett recently came out with all of this negative news. But it's really not just Buffet. Buffett's a phenomenal investor and his webcast was just a great lesson. But you have to remember, he's turning 90 this year. His risk tolerance has changed. And he's really made very few investments. He's done nothing but piling cash. So the airline industry got lots of publicity with it. But there's many other categories that he's sold down and it's been piling in his cash looking for where he feels a bottom. But what I believe is we're in an election year. In election year the spigots open water flows and it's just unprecedented of the G20 collaboration around the world to print money for fiscal stimulus and monetary stimulus. And I think we're getting some traction. So the new indicators, what I've discovered is the TSA started publishing how many people were screening every day. And it's not going to become clearly, a data point, just like looking at stock prices every day. How is it trending? And we can see that the laws on April the 14th and as is -- as the trend has been turning up, it's more than doubled now from its lows. The daily people, the daily people being screened in America at the fly. We've got a long way to go. We've got 2 million, and basically over 2 million people are flying a day domestically. When we do international flights its about 2.7 million. We flow down to 87,500. So there's a whole thesis on betting on this. The other one that really surprised me, which I found interesting, was looking at Google trends and looking at the balance that took place in Asia, and look at how it's going to apply here that you track people looking up for tourism. People looking to fly, trying to book hotels and as that change -- that trend changes week over a week, it's usually a precursor that we're going to have more people flying, booking hotel rooms. And Raymond James in their recent report analyzed that Google, it's tracking in Asia and they found a rebound. So I hope that this is you find this interesting that you can be using TSA data points as another factor, along with Google trends. Warren Buffett, he -- I think he's as I said, he's one of most brilliant investors. But as he said I was too dumb to realize it did not think Jeff Bezos to succeed on the scale he has and explaining how he missed Amazon. In another annual meeting, he talked about how he missed Google. So, he's not he can't catch every trade. He's brilliant. And so the thought process is that he's just going to buy one of these airlines when he thinks the economy is turned around. And 100%, he's talked about it prior. So maybe that takes place. But it creates so much news and so much interest in the airline industry that JETS has become the proxy. And we're thrilled about it. Just like, HIVE has become the proxy for people who do not want to buy Bitcoin and Ethereum. The trade stocks are high became a proxy for those crypto currencies. And I thought interesting this week, Bill Miller said he's very positive of the airline industry. And he basically is of the opinion that if you don't believe in it, then you don't believe there's going to be a vaccine to solve the problems. And he thinks that a lot of the negative news is just kind of 6 months old. So from his lips to God's ears, I hope he's right. And I believe he is a brilliant investor. And I would bet on the airline industry in his capacity to rebound and people want to get back to doing business. I also got to chuckle that Buffet isn't a fan of Bitcoin either. And it was a billboard ad that was put in front of his office. Warren, you said you were wrong about Google and Amazon, maybe you're wrong about Bitcoin. So it's just a jump ball for a lot of people as its going to be a D economy, it's going to be Nike swish economy turn around or a W. And so I believe that his age of 90, I believe that he's got to think about risk differently. And I think that when the economy turns, like I said earlier, a high probability, he basically takes a look at buying all industry. It's a jump ball. What will recover? Recovery looks like and so I remain quite constructively bullish. And I'm seeing people going back to work. Yes, there's going to be more coronavirus outbreaks because more people are going back to work. But there's new procedures. So people are going to be cleaner and people are going to learn from it. So let's come back to just to show you, the inflows are unprecedent. It's down 50 straight days of money flows. And as Eric said, this never happened before. As you can see, the next visual, he comments at the hottest theme in ETF industry with bargain-hunting day-traders from sites such as Robinhood taking the other side of the trade with Warren Buffet, who recently sold carrier JETS. So I think I'm thrilled about it. It's been recognized by it. Eric Balchunas this week flew to the Panhandle with his son. He was sharing on a podcast were during together and see his father he's not -- who's single, retired at 70, I think 75 years old and so he's on testing the airlines and he'll have a lot of insights on his experience of flying. I believe it was Delta. So this is another visual showing you the unprecedent growth in assets. And then the jet trading volume is also a precursor. It jumped 22 fold. And this is something that's important from liquidity as more funds come into buying and using as a proxy. We did expand as the next visual JETS ETF. As you roll there's lots of various entry of launching a new ETF. For many of these platforms, it will put it on unless it's over 50 billion and then it's 100 billion and then other platforms are 500 billion. But the most egregious is this play that -- play the play by the major wirehouses that they're looking for hundreds of thousands of dollars to be on their platform. And if a client wants to come and buy then they have to find [indiscernible] disclaimer that they did on their own. The brokers can't recommend it. But we are growing and we are on these platforms. And I think that's important as Schwab is the biggest and the number of accounts of dollars -- dollars accounts. National Financial, number two; [indiscernible] is number three and I think at the Schwab TD Ameritrade, that will be unequivocally the biggest in a number of accounts also. And Robinhood, which is a really a fascinating story, the Silicon Valley and it continues to grow. And the fact that now our products such as JETS is being recognized there is very important. If you're a registered investment of Pfizer, next week, I believe, [indiscernible] that we'll be doing a JETS update of how we weathering the storms. But it's not just JETS. JETS has been a phenomenal win for us and I thank God every day go for my run of it, it really helps us. As [indiscernible] most assets melted down this past quarter is gold. And gold is another beneficiary of this unprecedent printing of money. And our entry into that space is our product is doing exactly what we thought it would do. But here's what's really important for investors, is just to recognize that gold Bullion is outperformed the S&P 80% of the time this century and the past 20 years. And so it performed the S&P 500 by 3x. But now gold stocks remain very, very undervalued. And so our GOAU product is out there. The volume has picked up substantially. We've not had the growth in fund flows like we've experienced with the blessing of JETS, but it's doing what it's supposed to do. And I'm very happy about it. How it's outperforming other categories, because it's such a quant discipline of looking at it. The next visual is just where investors are recognized, the inverse relation between gold and real interest rates. It's quite simple. When gold hit 1900, real interest rates fell to minus 300 basis points. And then as real interest rates rose, price of gold fell. And gold stocks took it on the [indiscernible] a bit more, but gold stocks are very undervalued. And the -- and I believe we're going to see journalists coming in because of free cash flow yields for the end of March are so much stronger than the S&P, the first time in over a decade. And journalists, analysts will be buying gold stocks that focus on free cash flow yields. Next visual is gold is in an uptrend for close to 5 years, but especially the 3-year numbers are very, very strong for many of the hundred gold producers we follow in the world. We're also seeing this past quarter record inflows. It's a gold backed ETFs, which is a precursor to higher gold prices and I just say it remain positive and constructive regarding it. GOAU, our entry to that space, listed also in New York Stock Exchange is in all these platforms, as you can see here. And that's so critical of launching a product that you do get on these platforms for investors to come in and take a look at it. I wanted to point out that Bitcoin and Ethereum what they call a crypto winter, it lasted about 15 months. It bottomed in February, a year ago when JP Morgan launched its stable point, and all that negative talk by JP Morgan at the crypto space stock and we saw crypto all of a sudden evolve. What's really important for investors is that this is the next having a Bitcoin that is the reward mechanism of supply. It had this week and that's very material to hire Bitcoin prices in previous cycles. And then we see great hedge fund managers like Paul Tudor Jones buys Bitcoin to hedge against inflation. Recall a year ago he came on and started buying gold. And so he's been rewarded for being long gold and now it's Bitcoin. So we are seeing more institutions coming into the space. This is another visual showing you high Blockchain correlates 82% of the time with the crypto prices. And HIVE is at unprecedent volume in trading. Last year it went to HIVE. We went through a proxy battle, knock it down. Then the Ethereum prices all of a sudden start to take off. But institutions that owned it just sold it on a program, particular in Canada they sort of retooled the end of December. And the pressure of the stock down in August of this year is has a life surge. So I think a lot of that worst is behind us. As you can see HIVE is of the front office competition and HIVE has a series of updates. This is really go back and take a look at that we increased during this lockdown we still made an acquisition in Quebec. We did it -- for basic numbers for you to understand if you wanted to build a megawatt of capacity in Oklahoma or Texas or Montana, crypto mining is quite strong and robust [indiscernible] state, you're talking around $300,000 of megawatt. And we spent $92,000 on the acquisition in Quebec, Canada, and we have very inexpensive green energy. And so that is another positive development for HIVE Blockchain. Now, I'm sorry -- I've been long winded in this presentation, but there's so many exciting things that happened during an incredible global meltdown and U.S Global with all of our global funds really felt this meltdown, the coronavirus. But we are blessed to be able to have products that we weathered the storm. I want to share with -- for as GROW investors is that, what came to my attention from Eric is that the average ETF, if it's not profitable after three years, has shut down. And we were able to maintain this for 5 years before it exploded. And because we mentioned earlier, we have a lower cost structure. And that allowed us to bet on this. And it's the only profit that's out there. So we're really happy that we kept conviction to our thesis and the shareholders at GROW had benefit and we’ve also given the public a great way to participate in the airline industry. Lisa?
Thank you, Frank. Good morning. Before I discuss the results of our operations for the quarter, I'd like to discuss the finalization of the sale of our 65% Canadian subsidiary Galileo Global Equity Advisors. On March 2, 2020, Galileo purchased all of its common stock owned by USGI for a CAD$1 million, which is about US$746,000. The results from Galileo through March 2nd are reflected in discontinued operations in the consolidated statement of operations. So now I'll discuss the results of operations for the quarter ending March 31, 2020. Beginning on Slide 48, we recorded total operating revenues of $914,000 for the quarter, which is an increase of $57,000 or 7% from the $857,000 the same quarter last year. The increase is primarily due to increase in the ETF assets under management as we've discussed. But we also had decreases in performance being paid out. And this increase was somewhat offset by lower assets under management in our USGIS mutual fund. Operating expenses for the quarter were $1.9 million, an increase of $364,000 or 24% from the prior year same quarter. And it was primarily due to an increase in general and administrative expenses of $338,000 or 45%, primarily due to business development costs related to increase in ETF assets. We see our operating loss for the quarter ending March 31, 2020 is $979,000 or a decrease of $307,000 compared to the same quarter for fiscal year 2019. On Slide 49, we see that other income and loss for the quarter was a loss of $503,000. And as Frank discussed, we record changes in our investment value in this line item, and it has been volatile and is expected to be volatile in the future. The $503,000 loss was mainly due to unrealized losses in investment and loss for continuing operations was $1.5 million and loss from discontinued operations was $85,000, which was related to Galileo. Net loss attributable to USGI after taxes for the quarter is $1.6 million. And as you can see on Slide 50, that’s a loss of $0.11 per share. Moving on to Slide 51, we see we still have a strong balance sheet, which includes high level of cash and unrestricted marketable securities that combined to make up 68% of our total assets. As you can see on Page 52, at March 31,2020, we had no long-term debt. The only long-term liabilities are lease obligations, and the company had a net working capital of $10.2 million and a current ratio of 8.1. After quarter end, effective April 12, 2020, the company was approved for a loan of approximately $442,000 under the Paycheck Protection Program under the CARES Act. The company has less than 25 employees and is considered a small business. There is potential forgiveness for this loan, but it is dependent on the adherence to forgiveness criteria. And USGI will be working with its lender to determine if all or some of the loans will be forgiven. With that, I'll turn it over to Holly. Frank E. Holmes: Before we do that, Lisa, I do want to comment that we were in the process and we were downsizing at the beginning of March before these assets start to take off.
Thank you, Lisa. All right. As you can see on Slide 55, a majority of our mutual fund assets are in emerging markets and natural resources, while 37% are in domestic equities and fixed income. As for distribution, more than three quarters of assets come from retail investors, with 17% coming from institutional investors. Our sales and marketing efforts have continued to focus on our mutual funds, including those concentrated on gold, natural resources and emerging markets, as well as our exchange traded funds. The company and our funds continue to receive an invaluable amount of viral publicity gained through media interviews. Frank Holmes often shares his insights with financial outlets like Fox Business, Bloomberg Radio and Kitco News, just to name a few. We continue to receive recommendations by influential financial newsletter writers as well, along with the sharing and syndication of our award winning original content by third-party publishers. 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Holmes: On a historical basis, whenever you go to negative interest rates, gold goes up in that country's currency and being in the U.S. people know their comments are not going to negative rates, but ahead of the Federal Reserve. I point out that there's another $2 trillion on the table. It's an election year in America to help both businesses get people back to work and so I just think that the price of gold is going to trade higher and it's going to because the debasement and it's synchronized. It's all the G20 countries. So it's not like a gold goes up because it's a war. The only war today is the war on a virus, the coronavirus. That's a war. And it's unprecedent that everything in the world stopped. And it just -- when you look at all the data, we go back to World War I and read it for one was the Spanish flu. You take a look at World War II, I can go on with a list of them, but nothing has ever shut down the world like this coronavirus. And so all these countries, finance ministers and central bankers, are working together in a cartel form and they're basically printing money and so real assets historically have held their value and they go up. And I think that that's what's going to take place with gold. Over the next several years, we're going to get a very strong rerating onboard. What we saw last year and everyone was shocked by that Palladium went from a $1,000 to $2,700. That could easily happen to gold this year. And why would that be? Well, supply is being restricted. The supply from mines is not growing. It's basically peak supply. And when we had peak oil, oil was over $120 a barrel. Then along came the fractures and the fractures were game changers. But there is no game changing technology for looking for gold, processing gold, distributing the gold. So it's going to continue to be a very significant asset class. And so I remain very bullish. The best part is the focus on now where the opportunities are going to be are gold stocks. Gold stocks have lagged. They've lagged for the past decade with the movement in the price of gold. And there's lots of -- there's really not that much interest in that category by pension funds. You can see this in Canada, where 8% of the trial stock exchange is gold related. But maybe Canadian pension funds are 1% weighted. So the way under weighted and when we look at financial metrics, this is the first time, Holly, that we've had free cash flow. If you go back and the 100 brokers that we follow in the world, in September, they were minus 50 basis points collectively. At the end of December, they start to rise to about 0.5%. We had a positive swing. At the end of this march, its running, I think 1.5% positive. Now, the S&P 500, it was running over 3% free cash flow yield at the end of December. Now it's fallen. So Woodstocks new [indiscernible] only goal stock and the S&P 500 and it has attractive of free cash flow and the stock is being bought by journalists. So I think that the gold industry, as long as these gold seeking stock yield is, don't do stupid deals that dilute their revenue and cash flow per share, then those stocks will outperform and that's what our gold equity ETF GOAU focuses on.