Dassault Systèmes SE (DASTY) Q3 2019 Earnings Call Transcript
Published at 2019-10-25 18:25:06
Thank you, Bernard. Hello and thanks for joining us today. Let's start with another view of our financial performance. Beginning with Q3, we qualified Q3 as a solid quarter, revenue up 10%, operating margin expanding 140 basis points and an EPS up sharply. Zooming in, we delivered strong performance across subscriptions, recurring software, services led by 3DEXPERIENCE deployments and operating margin, culminating in EPS growth of 20%. The key disappointment is coming from the slippage at the end of the quarter, having in mind that Q3 is our smallest quarter for licenses and we have not been able to fully compensate those slippages. With respect to our nine months performance, all figures revenues software operating margin and earnings per share delivered very good results. On an organic basis, the growth was broad-based with revenue software and recurring software all up at high single-digits. We saw strong progress with 3DEXPERIENCE software revenue up 19% in Q3 and 32% year-to-date. And from a license revenue perspective a similar dynamic with 3DEXPERIENCE licenses software up 21% in Q3 and up 40% for the first nine months, representing 43% of the related license mix. Finally, cash flow from operations were also very strong up 34% crossing the €1 billion milestone for the first nine months period. So let's zoom to our regional software performance. The highest growth was in the Americas with software revenue up 19% on strong licenses and recurring revenue results. Americas also grew double-digits on an organic software basis. In Europe, three of our geos performed well: Northern, Southern of Europe and France offset in part by the macro weakness in Germany bringing Europe software growth to 5% for Q3. In Asia, our two largest markets Japan and China showed good financial results with -- both in fact with software revenue up 10%. Overall, Asia grew 4% in Q3 reflecting weaker results in Korea and India. On a year-to-year basis, software revenue grew 17% in the Americas, 9% in Europe and 7% in Asia. So let's move to the revenue backgrounds. Following to a strong first half of CATIA where license revenue was up double-digits, we encountered some softness in the automotive supply chain in Q3. In contrast, 3DEXPERIENCE adoption is progressing well with OEMs' transformation driven by the product range electrification. This is also evidenced by No Magic's good performance as part of our cyber system strategic initiative for CATIA. Overall CATIA's software revenue grew 5% in Q3, while year-to-date CATIA's software revenue has increased 8%. CATIA 3DEXPERIENCE software revenue is up sharply for the nine months and – sorry, similarly following the strong first half ENOVIA's software growth slowed to 3% in Q3, principally reflecting several large slipped deals. Overall for the first nine months, ENOVIA software revenue increased 10%. SOLIDWORKS software revenue increased 7% in the quarter above the 5% for the nine months. It continued to show a strong growth in Asia up double-digits and some improvement in Europe and the Americas. Its recurring software revenue performance continued to demonstrate a very strong stable renewal rates and we are benefiting from the high-level of license growth in year 2018 as client renews their support revenue. Looking at the market opportunity for SOLIDWORKS, today we work with about 22% of the target company in this space with more available in both the 2D world as well as the 3D world. On top of this with 1 million cumulative commercial seats sold, we have a significant opportunity to expand our footprint with SOLIDWORKS customers, thanks to both the 3DEXPERIENCE platform and the 3DEXPERIENCE.WORKS solutions portfolio. Other software grew 17% for Q3 and 19% year-to-date. And on an organic basis, other software grew double-digits led by DELMIA and SIMULIA. Our manufacturing solutions continue to gain traction. We are pleased to share that Ericsson is expanding its use of 3DEXPERIENCE platform and second more specifically broadening its usage to our solutions to manufacturing engineering, leveraging DELMIA as well as ENOVIA applications. 5G represents a significant new opportunity for companies. Challenges include time-to-market on the one hand and highly complex configurable products on the other. Therefore, it is critical to be able to manage the process from design to manufacturing including and ensuring that for a lower volume high configurations product company needs to be able to seamlessly manage plant reconfigurations. Zooming quickly on our revenue results in more details. We are benefiting from an improved recurring revenue dynamics, driving both our software as well as total revenue growth. In each of the three quarters to-date in year 2019, recurring software has grown at a higher rate than licenses. As it represents, 75% of our total software, this is a very good dynamic. Second, it is also driving growth for our total revenue and software revenue on an organic basis, towards the high single-digits with an organic revenue higher by 8% in Q3 and 9% year-to-date. Software revenue. If you look at the recurring software and license and other software, zooming in more details, what do we see? We see on organic basis, license and other software decrease by 1% in Q3 on a slipped deal and weakness in the automotive supply chain. And for the nine months' period, license revenue increased 5%. Recurring software revenue increased 10% in Q3 and 9% year-to-date on an organic basis with a double-digit growth of subscriptions and a very solid support growth across all customer channels. On an organic basis, services revenue increased 16% in Q3 and 14% year-to-date led by 3DEXPERIENCE deployments. On a nine-month basis, the services gross margin was 9%. On the operating and profitability and margins, we continue to deliver strong operational results. Our operating margin for the first nine periods at 31.3%, up 140 basis points. We had an organic improvement of 200 basis points compared to acquisition dilution of 100 basis points. Currency had 40 basis points. EPS came in the high end of our guidance at €0.78, increasing 20% in Q3 and 19% year-to-date. So strong growth in earnings per share came from our operations, revenue operating margin expansion. Excluding currency EPS was up, mid-double-digits for both the three and the nine months periods. Zooming on the cash flow and balance sheet. Our net operating cash flow crossed the €1 billion milestone for the first nine months of year 2019 increasing 34%, up 28% excluding the IFRS 16 lease implementation effects. The principal contributors were the growth in the net income and non-cash items accounts receivable management and a lower tax down payment in year 2019 where we are now benefiting from a U.S. tax change on foreign driven intangible assets enacted in year 2018. Unearned revenue now called contract liability increased 7% at constant currency and perimeters -- on the same perimeters. Zooming to the financing of the cash acquisition. Few words. In September, we completed our euro bond financing in the amount of €3.65 billion to fund a large proportion of the financing of Medidata acquisition. The offering was well received, so we also refinanced a €650 million euro bond loan set to mature in year 2022. The euro bond financing has four maturities from three years to 10 translating to an average terms of seven years with an effective borrowing rate of 16 basis points. Looking at our borrowings, our net estimated financial expense are about €9 million for Q4 and €41 million for 2020. Now I would like to move to our guidance. I would like first highlight the key full year, year 2019 figure for DS on a standalone basis. Point number one, we are reaffirming our total revenue growth objective of 10% to 11% at constant currency. Our revenue objective takes into account the strong dynamics we have with the recurring software, representing the large majority of our software revenue. And at the same time, our revenue outlook also reflects the potential for continued volatility in license activity in Q4. We then updated our currency for Q3 actuals and Q4 updated outlook, leading to a total revenue range of €3.912 billion to €3.952 billion. We are also confirming our earlier EPS objectives. And updated for currency, for both Q3 and Q4, bringing our non-IFRS EPS objective, range up €0.05 to €3.5 to €3.55, representing growth of 12% to 14%. With these objectives, I think, we are well positioned to reach our five years' goal of -- sorry to the five-year goal to double EPS to €3.5 by year 2019. With the expected closing no later than October 31 we are adding Medidata to our Q4 and full year guidance assuming a two-month contribution. For Q4, we are estimating a non-IFRS revenue contribution of about €103 million, and about €0.02 of our non-IFRS earnings per share. Just remind that we have been carrying interest expense on the related funding debt, starting in September. With respect to the year 2019 on a combined basis, we are targeting total revenue of 13% to 14% at constant currency, translating to a revenue range of €4.015 billion €4.055 billion, the non-IFRS operating margin of about 32%, and a non-IFRS earning per share of €3.52 to €3.57, up 13% to 14%. Further details, on the fourth quarter are in our earnings press release, and in our earnings presentation on our website. In terms of currency rate, we are assuming a U.S. dollar to euro rate of 1.15. And a Japanese yen to euro rate of 125, before hedging for Q4. To conclude, we are advancing our purpose across product, nature and life. Our platform strategy and our science-based DNA, is really starting to be visible from the outside. From a financial perspective, recurring software revenue is moving front and center as a key enabler for our strengthening organic growth. Looking forward, we are focused on continuing to improve our execution. We have a strong financial model and a significant runway of opportunities, thanks to our growth drivers. We hope to see many of you in New York, on November 13, for our Life Sciences Day. And we will now be happy to take your questions. And thanks again for your participation on this call, and our earlier webcasted meeting held in London. A - François-José Bordonado Operator, Samat, we're ready to take questions.
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jay Vleeschhouwer from Griffin Securities. Please ask your question.
Thank you. Good afternoon, Bernard and Pascal. Bernard Charlès: Yes good afternoon, Jay.
Good afternoon. I'll save the Medidata questions until we see you here in New York in a few weeks. So I'd like to start with my first question concerning, the BT business. You noted the Toyota and Lockheed Martin news. And the question there is those are among two of the oldest, most established customers in the industry of course for your kind of software. Those selections or decisions now were perhaps years in the making. And so the question is, what other large customers of that kind are you seeing, perhaps in the process of reconsidering or potentially retooling, deployment decisions that were made five or 10 or even 15 or more years ago? How have the selection criteria changed for these kinds of decisions versus the original criteria? And in the meantime, when you are doing large BT renewals, in your core markets, what are you seeing or trying to achieve in terms of pricing or incremental pricing versus the prior contracts? And then a couple of follow-up questions. Bernard Charlès: Thank you for the question. I think there is a wrong perception that we need to resolve with existing customers. What was announced and I will be explicit on that just to help clarify, in the context of those customers they have been long-lasting customers of Dassault Systèmes in a certain scope of usage mainly CATIA V5 sometimes manufacturing DELMIA. Here for example with Toyota, if you read carefully the press release, it's not about what we do now, it's about the total new core infrastructure to replace gigantic legacy systems that are many years old. And that's the case of so many companies even existing clients, whether it's legacy PDM or multiple information systems where the unification is changing the core system for everything. So it's not even PDM. It's the next generation integrating single version of truth across all disciplines. That's the case of Toyota. When it comes -- so basically still to be announced will be the next generation of product solutions in many domains of application specialization. So in short, significant new footprint. Same for Lockheed Martin. Those companies are doing highly sophisticated processes high tech systems. And there are a lot of legacy application on systems. And in the case of Lockheed Martin, they authorized us to communicate the fact that they use on their power, order, product design, simulation, production with -- from one single platform. Again a new scope of coverage, which really addresses the specialized audience but a much broader all people involved in the collaborative process. So this is what is happening. In many clients, Ericsson, is another example of what we have announced, they have hundreds of information database that they want to remove and replace by one single version of truth. And this has never been done. So again here it's a new scope. So I think we see that more and more with clients. The net of all this is the size of the business we could do with those giants is at least x2 or more. In fact as proven with the giant contact that we signed two years ago with Boeing where the scale of the contract had nothing to do with what we did for the past 20 years. That's Jay what is behind those announcements. And it's changing also of course their ecosystem. Because the nature of the products they are doing is evolving. They are creating new generation of vehicles for e-mobility connected vehicles. Electronics is part of it. Software connection and configuration is part of it. And this is why this is really not only a new game but game changer. So keep in mind, a long-lasting, fully committed Dassault Systèmes client having done great business with us and we -- and us having done great business with them, we can multiply by x2 to x3 the potential business with them.
I think a few comments on the pricing Jay. As Bernard said, the equivalent scope knowing that the purpose is to expand the scope, let's zoom on the equivalent scope. You have the price of the platform coming in addition, okay? So it's -- I mean it's €1,000 per users. And then you have the maintenance and support rate increasing from 18% to 21%. So the goal is really what Bernard explained is to expand the scope either on the upstream or the downstream using the platform. That's really where we are creating the value and how we do it.
The second question has to do with your cloud ambitions. I watched your webcast two days ago. You presented that Bernard on your cloud offerings. And we talked about this a bit a quarter ago when I asked you about your relationship with Microsoft, for example, vis-à-vis cloud. And the question has to do with the -- your internal investments on your own cloud infrastructure, and whether in the long run the most prudent thing to do is to be largely, if not mostly dependent on your own internal infrastructure in this case the Outscale versus working more with the hyperscale companies to pursue your cloud ambitions just in terms of achieving better economies of scale as your customers presumably will adopt more and more cloud, not only for CAD but for the other businesses. And then my final question after that. Thanks. Bernard Charlès: So thank you for participating to our cloud seminar. I think the testimony from customers were quite impressive in terms of how they are using cloud on new projects. You're right. I think the reason why Outscale is becoming 3DS Outscale, a core brand is because we believe that customers value the fact that there is a fully controlled stack on security and efficiency and optimization, delivering the service to them. So the number of clouds we have around the world are -- is increasing significantly. And as you know, one of the things we have done, which is unique, is we have done our own PLM to manage our own multiple clouds. So we offer three types of clouds: public, private and dedicated cloud based on the customer needs. We have a good relationship with Amazon and we use them for elasticity. But there is no doubt that our customers want to have the guarantee of total service, and also alignment fiscally and legally on their territory. And so your point is well-taken and we agree with it. And we continue to develop our own cloud infrastructure to differentiate. Because basically, as Pascal said this morning, from a profitability standpoint all-in-all whether it's on-prem -- whether it's with a PLC/ALC basically upfront on an annual license charge or subscription based for us the operational margin is the same, which is a performance, because it's not the case for many companies.
The final question has to do with your management of the portfolio. That is to say the existing DS portfolio is quite complex in terms of numbers of roles and apps and the large number of what you call trigrams. And we've sort of gone back and forth over the years in terms of the portfolio growing then you try to simplify and so forth. And where are you in terms of that complexity and managing the very large number of roles, but at the same time doing so at scale and profitably so that the portfolio isn't, so to say, overbuilt? And we've sometimes seen in your industry almost an inverse relationship sometimes between complexity and growth. And so perhaps you could address that issue. Bernard Charlès: Yeah. Well, the reality is that with the number of industries we cover or number of processes we cover or number of segments we cover, what will continue to happen is the number of roles meaning type of champions we want to serve the number of process meaning teams on solutions meaning the outcome for the company is going to grow because we want to be highly dedicated to the segments we serve. The reality is that, it's very easy for a start-up company and small company to understand what they want and what they need. Because for an analyst to look at the total portfolio is one thing. But a customer is in one industry and is covering a limited number of process, so when you go and instantiate that for a given customer, it's very simplified. And so, that's a unique approach that we have because most of those players are based on functionalities. And we don't want to sell functionalities. We want to sell outcome excellence or reality of the roles, outcome of the solution, performance of the process, reality of the roles. And the testimony from our cloud-based customer -- and we have a quite large install base of cloud-based customer. We have a very large install base of education student -- schools very large base, probably much bigger than some of the latest announcement from what I have seen last night, in terms of acquisitions; far bigger. It's simple for them to provision the roles. And it takes just a few hours. So that's the reality on the feedback of what they're saying.
And our next question comes from the line of Andrew DeGasperi from Berenberg. Your line is now open.
Thanks for taking my question. First, I guess on the SOLIDWORKS growth. Is there any scenario that you see returning to that double-digit range in the near mid-term? And then maybe broadly speaking, given there's a potential that the market becomes more competitive. Do you think the product is adequately priced at this point? Bernard Charlès: May I say -- this Pascal before you provide the insight? You have to know that now with the SOLIDWORKS family, it's becoming a family. We announced what we call 3DEXPERIENCE. WORKS at the beginning of -- at the SOLIDWORKS World. I want to explain briefly the following. There are three types of things we offer to the SOLIDWORKS type of clients; number one, SOLIDWORKS desktop, solution number one. Number two, SOLIDWORKS desktop powered by the 3DEXPERIENCE platform on the cloud. And that's why we are seeing SIMULIA growth for SOLIDWORKS customer recently because they use SIMULIA directly on the cloud. And number three web-based native mobile application natively on the 3DEXPERIENCE cloud. And it was called xDesign during the field test and the customer test that we ran for almost 12 months. And it's going to be delivered to the market and available to the market under the name of 3D Creator. And that category web-based, no apps on the device, it's extremely well received. And ultimately this will have the same functionality as the SOLIDWORKS desktop but everything through a web browser and progress are being done. So those under the SOLIDWORKS line all these will appear to be the evolution rather than a new one with that in mind. Pascal?
But I think give you -- element of the answer of how competitive is the products against the different solution you have on the markets because no one can claim to have the scope of solutions and at the same time just the level of integrations between them. It's point number one. Point number two is, if we zoom only on the traditional SOLIDWORKS, I still believe the reservoir for growth is still there. You still have 40% of the market still being in 2D. And you still have the migration from 2D to 3D, it's almost 4%. You have the 1.5 million companies 40% of them being still in 2D migrating into 3D every year. And for SOLIDWORKS review what I said this morning, it's 40,000 new license every year, okay For 3D to 3D, as you may know, we are now winning market share in the 3D space using SOLIDWORKS. And we are replacing some of the incumbents with a well-priced and very functional solutions, so called SOLIDWORKS. And I look at the track record, we are almost gaining one point market share in the 3D space with SOLIDWORKS every year for the mainstream market. And then you still have the large installed base we have. And as you know, many customers are growing and they continue to buy on a regular basis new licenses. When you do the math, I mean, if you combine all the growth drivers we have described by Bernard plus the one I just gave to you, I mean, I'm still convinced we can go back to double-digit growth.
Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jason Celino from KeyBanc Capital. Your line is now open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just one for me today. Can you just provide a little bit more color on some of the business dynamics you're seeing in Europe and Asia? Just maybe what products, what industries and how this compares to maybe prior times when business demands weren't as robust? Bernard Charlès: A few insights. The China is a major driver of Asia as well as Japan by the way. China being significant double-digit with 20% growth.
10% for the quarter. Bernard Charlès: 10% for this quarter and…
20% for the first nine months. Bernard Charlès: 20% for the first nine months. Thank you, Pascal. And there was a lot of concern about the sectors like Transportation & Mobility slowing down. It is in some way in volume, but in terms of product portfolio on the bench to be developed through engineering and design for new electrified vehicle, it's a huge, huge number of programs around the globe. So that's one thing that should be noticed. Aerospace was up 25%, so it's a strong dynamic. And also a new scope for us, because it's about rate production as well as supply production. Related to the supply chain what we see is that the startups in the sector in both domain by the way for e-fly or e-mobility at large, incredible number of new startups. Most of them, I can claim -- we can claim are based on the 3DEXPERIENCE cloud solutions on-premise, but it's 3DEXPERIENCE in almost all cases. And then in the middle you have what we call Tier 1, Tier 2 large suppliers. They initiated the adoption of 3DEXPERIENCE before the OEMs. And this quarter there was a sudden slowdown in that segment – sub-segment of the market. But we don't think it's -- we don't think it's a trend, because they are creating a lot of innovations think about Valeo, Delphi and many others. So that's basically the feeling we have. Pascal mentioned this morning that the pipeline is good for Q4. And I think our visibility for -- it's too early to speak about it.
If we look at what we call the diversified industry not the core, we are also observing some key trends. The life science sector is going well at large Europe, Asia as well as the U.S. So the Home & Lifestyle segment is also going very well. We continue to gain market share with these companies. But if they are suffering to a certain extent, but they are so far behind in terms of digitalization, they are investing a lot to catch up. The high-tech sector also is going well, because with all those new equipments with the IoT this is driving a lot of the demands. And last but not least, believe it or not the shipbuilding is also a domain where we see a lot of growth and especially coming from Asia. Bernard Charlès: I think, we are building the Asian standard for shipbuilding replacing legacy systems, simply said. Next question, please.
Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Michael Briest from UBS. Your line is now open.
Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon. A couple for me. So just in terms of SOLIDWORKS, I think, you walked through some of the drivers of unit growth this morning Pascal around 80,000 being the target. But can you talk a little bit about the unit volumes in Q3? And I think the comparators are reasonably hard for Q4. So I mean do you think you can sustain that 7% growth?
That's the goal. That's really the goal.
I do not have the exact unit number in mind for Q3. But usually if you apply the seasonality of the revenue you will find it collectively correlated to this -- to the growth.
Okay. And then there's a useful slide on 31 looking at the proportion of business coming from 3DEXPERIENCE. And you're now a little over one-fourth of total on 3DEXPERIENCE from total software. Can you maybe say on CATIA, where you're up to on that transition?
Last time I looked at it you have more than 20% of the installed base CATIA being under the 3DEXPERIENCE platform -- whatever it's native or through the Power'By approach.
And are there any standout sectors which are sort of either ahead or behind that 20%?
All the new sectors for CATIA obviously, are starting directly with 3DEXPERIENCE platform. Bernard Charlès: Construction
Yes. Bernard Charlès: Architecture construction, all new startups in e-mobility all native here actually. So as you said all new sectors are directly going 3DEXPERIENCE. Native zero customization provisioning the service that they need.
Yes. The aerospace also is moving very fast with CATIA and 3DEXPERIENCE platform. And the automotive sector where probably the one being more difficult to move. But as Bernard said with the electrification of the car we are seeing the acceleration because you need the new generation of CATIA to do it. Bernard Charlès: Cyber. What we call CATIA Cyber.
Okay. And then – thank you. Just finally on the guidance on Medidata, I think, there was a question this morning around this. If I take the consensus of $196 million apply your exchange rate and take two-thirds, I come to about €113 million. And that's about €10 million more than you. I mean it's a cloud business so presumably the 85% of revenues from cloud are locked and loaded. So why are you being so conservative on what you expect to get from the business?
So I mean your computation is probably a little bit extreme. But nevertheless, I say it explicitly this morning I took some cautiousness. And again, believe me when we do this kind of move you take the risk to defocus the company for a few weeks. And this is the situation, I would like to avoid. And that's the reason why we are taking some cautiousness. And again I'm not talking about only Medidata. I'm also talking about Dassault Systèmes. Because the time we spend with -- as an executive with the Medidata teams are the time we are not spending with our current customers. So maybe, you can blame me to take too much cautiousness, but I'm fine with it, Michael. But it's less than what you stated.
Okay. I will go back and have a loot at that. Thank you very much.
Thank you. There are no other questions at this time. Please continue. Bernard Charlès: Okay. So very -- thank you very much for participating, this morning and this afternoon for some of you and we are always there to address your questions. And we wish you a good day. Thank you very much. And see you mid-November.