The Bank of Nova Scotia

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The Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS) Q3 2016 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2016-08-30 12:57:21
Executives
Jake Lawrence - SVP, IR Brian Porter - President & CEO Sean McGuckin - CFO Stephen Hart - Chief Risk Officer James O'Sullivan - Group Head, Canadian Banking Nacho Deschamps - Group Head, International Banking Dieter Jentsch - Group Head, Global Banking & Markets
Analysts
Robert Sedran - CIBC World Markets Gabriel Dechaine - Canaccord Genuity John Aiken - Barclays Meny Grauman - Cormark Securities Mario Mendonca - TD Securities Sohrab Movahedi - BMO Capital Markets Peter Routledge - National Bank Financial
Jake Lawrence
And welcome to Scotiabank's 2016 Third Quarter Results Presentation. My name is Jake Lawrence. I am the Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for the Bank. Presenting to you this morning is Brian Porter, Scotiabank's President and Chief Executive Officer; Sean McGuckin, our Chief Financial Officer; and Stephen Hart, the Bank's Chief Risk Officer. Following this morning comments, we'll be glad to take your questions. Also in the room with us to join the Q&A session are Scotiabank's business line group heads, James O'Sullivan from Canadian Banking; Nacho Deschamps from International Banking; and Dieter Jentsch from Global Banking and Markets. Before we start the call and on behalf of those speaking today, I would like to refer you to Slide 2 of our presentation, which contains Scotiabank caution regarding forward-looking statements. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Brian Porter.
Brian Porter
Thank you, Jake, and good morning everyone. I'll start on Slide 4. We are pleased to report our third quarter results to our shareholders. For Q3, the Bank delivered a strong quarter of both, financial and operating results. The Bank earned almost $2 billion, delivering diluted earnings per share of $1.54 and a 6% increase from last year. These strong results were supported by earnings growth across all three of our business lines each of which I'll touch on briefly. While we're Canada's International Bank, it is important to note that our Canadian banking business generates more than half of the Bank's earnings. The Canadian banking team under James O'Sullivan's leadership has done a very good job continuing to improve the customer experience, working to further optimize the business mix, and enhancing productivity. I'd like to highlight two proof points. To better serve customers we are developing greater digital capabilities to eliminate pain points and simplify onboarding experiences for our customers. For example; we are reducing online bank account openings to less than five minutes, and in constructing Canadian banking's balance sheet we are deepening relationships in a thoughtful and risk sensitive manner. As proof, we are growing our core deposit and payments businesses which have improved the returns we are able to generate for shareholders. This quarter's financial results provide evidence of Canadian banking’s success. Turning to international banking, I'm very pleased with the financial and operating momentum we see in the business, particularly in the Pacific Alliance countries of Mexico, Peru, Chile and Colombia. Over a year ago we indicated that the financial performance of international banking would improve, and it has. International banking has earned at least $500 million in four consecutive quarters. These strong earnings performances for our combination, excellent volume growth, primarily in the Pacific Alliance where we are gaining profitable market share paired with good operating disciplines. As proved, international banking has achieved five consecutive quarters of year-over-year positive operating leverage, and as we indicated in January at our Investor event in Mexico City, we remain confident in the medium and long-term growth prospects of the Pacific Alliance. Overall, our Canadian and International Banking business are generating 80% Scotiabank's earnings, and recent quarters are producing high single digit growth. After a few challenging quarters, global banking and markets also had a strong performance. We believe last quarter's earnings troughed for this business. The stronger performance in Q3 reflects better results across several businesses, as well as lower energy related losses. On credit, last quarter we indicated that energy related losses had peaked, and then our loss ratio would improve which was indeed the case this quarter. The strong performances across all three business lines was paired with good expense management, as a result, all bank operating leverage are 3.3% this quarter and is positive year-to-date. Our adjusted return on equity in Q3 was strong at 14.8%. Looking at our capital position, the Bank remains well capitalized with a common equity Tier 1 ratio of 10.5%. With strong capital, growing businesses and higher earnings, we are well positioned to continue investing in and growing the Bank. The Bank continues to make investments to grow organically, such as growing our under-indexed businesses, improving digital capabilities on offerings or funding programs to reduce structural costs. And while these investments do not receive the same attention as acquisitions, they provide very attractive returns to our shareholders and ultimately make us a better bank. Growing earnings and strong capital also support dividend increases. We are pleased to announce a $0.02 increase to the quarterly dividend to $0.74 per share, a 6% increase from last year. To recap, we are encouraged with this quarter's results. We have strong performances across all our business lines and the positive operating trends we are experiencing provide us with good momentum as we move into the final quarter of the year. I will now pass the call over to Sean to review this quarter's performances.
Sean McGuckin
Thanks, Brian. I will begin on Slide 6, which shows our key financial performance metrics for the current quarter and comparative periods. As Brian mentioned, Q3 diluted earnings per share was $1.54, up 6% year-over-year. The quarter had strong personal and commercial banking as well as wholesale results. Provisions for credit losses improved from the peak level reported last quarter and progress on expense management continues to be good. Revenue growth was strong, up 8% from Q3 last year, with solid asset growth in Canadian Banking, International Banking, as well as corporate lending. Revenues were positively impacted by acquisitions, stronger trading and banking revenues as well as higher underwriting and advisory fees; partially offsetting was lower revenues from investments and associates. Our core banking margin was 2.38%, down 2 basis points year-over-year. Higher margins in our business lines were more than offset by lower contributions from asset liability management activities and the mix impact of higher volumes of lower yielding investment securities; overall, across the Bank, a good expense management performance in Q3. Continued investments and strategic initiatives contributed to a 5% increase in expenses including higher technology and professional costs. The Q3 productivity ratio was 52.8%, reflecting an improvement of 160 basis points year-over-year. In regards to the restructuring charge we announced last quarter to drive efficiency improvements, the expected benefits have started to accrue in Q3 and amounted to approximately $25 million. The $25 million benefit was only a small contributor to the strong 3.3% operating leverage this quarter. It is still early days but as we look to 2017 and beyond, we expect our savings in this efficiency initiative to track on plan for 200 basis points to 250 basis points improvement in productivity for 2019. Moving to capital on Slide 7, as mentioned the Bank continues to have a strong capital position. The common equity Tier 1 ratio of 10.5%, up from 10.1% in Q2. This improvement arose with strong internally generated capital of $1 billion which increased the ratio by about 30 basis points. After adjusting for foreign exchange translation, risk weighted assets declined contributing approximately 15 basis points to the improvement in the capital ratio. The RWA reduction was from lower credit risk weighted assets and market risk weighted assets in global banking markets, only partly offset by slightly higher risk weighted assets in Canadian Banking. The Bank's leverage ratio was 4.2%, a 10 basis points improvement from last quarter. Turning now to the business line results beginning on Slide 8; Canadian Banking produced a strong quarter with net income of $930 million, up 8% year-over-year. Loan volumes increased 3% from last year. Residential mortgage growth was flat or up 3% on adjusting for the Tangerine mortgage runoff book and prudently managed personal lending growth was up 8%. Our effort to deepen customer relationships includes growing core deposits. This quarter continued the trend of deposit growth with retail checking and savings deposit balances up strong 9% and 14% respectively. Our targeted assets and strong deposit growth reflect the execution of our strategy to improve Canadian Banking's business mix. As a result of optimized business mix and acquisition impacts, the net interest margin rose 13 basis points from Q3 last year. Wealth management delivered a good quarter with earnings growth of 5% year-over-year driven by market appreciation and net sales, AUM was up 5% while AUA was up modestly. Provision for credit losses were up $44 million year-over-year due mainly to higher provisions in the retail portfolio driven by growth in higher spread products. The loan loss ratio was up 6 basis points. Notwithstanding, the risk adjusted margin was up 7 basis points from last year. Expenses increased 4% year-over-year or 2% adjusting for acquisition impacts. The increase was driven by higher technology, internal investments and salary increases partially offset by benefits realized from cost reduction initiatives. Adjusting for the gain on sale last quarter in acquisitions, Canadian Banking has delivered positive operating leverage of 1.7% year-to-date. Turning to the next slide on International Banking, the business delivered a net quarter of earnings above the $500 million, up 9% and $527 million from same quarter last year. These results reflect continued strong operating performance with loan, deposit and fee income growth in the key Pacific Alliance region. Importantly, the level of loan losses improved from the elevated level last quarter. International Banking continued to deliver strong loan growth of 9% year-over-year or 11% adjusting for the impact of foreign currency translation. The growth was driven by the Pacific Alliance which continued its loan growth, up 14% on a constant currency basis from last year. On a sequential basis, lending growth in Q3 in International Banking tends to slow. There is some seasonality in the business and if you look back over the past five years, it is observable. This quarter was also influenced by the election in Peru which was won by a pro-markets candidate. We have a solid pipeline and we expect a strong growth for the Pacific Alliance region to resume into next year. A strong asset growth in International Banking was supported by excellent deposit growth, up 15% versus the same quarter last year on reported basis and up 17% when adjusting for the impact of foreign currency translation. The net interest margin increased to 4.79%, up 2 basis points versus the same period last year, compared to last quarter, the margin improved by 10 basis points. Relative to last quarter, loan losses decreased $54 million to $316 million. On a year-over-year basis, loan losses were up $23 million but the loan loss ratio improved by 1 basis point. Expense growth was 4%, primarily related to increased business volumes and inflation. The impact of higher cost from acquisitions was largely offset by the positive impact of foreign currency translation. On a reported basis, operating leverage was strong at positive 2.8% year-to-date. Moving to Slide 10, Global Banking and Markets; net income of $421 million was up a very strong 12% from last year. Earnings growth was driven by higher contributions from fixed income, corporate banking, investment banking and precious metals, as well as the positive impact of foreign currency translation. A stronger business performance in Q3 also reflected an $80 million decline in loan losses from last quarter. Trading revenues on a TEB basis increased over 20% year-over-year driven by higher revenues across all product categories. Loan growth was strong with total corporate loan volumes up 16% versus Q3 of last year or up 13% after adjusting for the impact of foreign currency translation. Revenues also benefited from increase in the margin, primarily from higher levels of loan fee amortization and the benefit from strong growth in deposits. As mentioned, loan losses declined maturely from last quarter end with losses down $80 million to $38 million. Provisions for credit losses this quarter related to a small number of energy related accounts. The loan loss ratio was 19 basis points, down from 57 basis points last quarter but up from a very low level of 8 basis points a year ago. Stephen Hart will have more to say on risk and energy exposures in a moment. Expenses were up 9% year-over-year reflecting higher technology and regulatory costs, as well as increased stock-based performance-related compensation, partly offset by lower salaries. I will turn now to the Other Segment on Slide 11, which incorporates the results of Group Treasury, smaller operating units and certain corporate adjustments. The results include a net impact of asset/liability management activities. The Other Segment reported net incomes of $19 million this quarter. Earnings in the segment were down from $72 million in Q3 last year where it had lower contributions from asset/liability management activities and higher expenses which were partly offset by higher net gain on investment securities and lower taxes. This completes my review of our financial results. I'll now turn it over to Stephen who will discuss the risk management.
Stephen Hart
Thanks, Sean, and good morning. We remain comfortable with the underlying fundamentals of the Bank's risk portfolios and performance continues to remain within our expectations. As noted last quarter, we expected the Bank's loss rate in Q2 to reflect the peak level of losses for the year and that remains unchanged. A key driver of the loan losses last quarter were elevated levels of energy-related PCLs, which have decreased materially quarter-over-quarter. Excluding the collective allowance increase last quarter, our PCL ratio improved by 12 basis points quarter-over-quarter to 47. Overall, our retail credit performance in both Canada and international is performing as expected and is generally stable. In Canada, we are seeing some regional weakness in Alberta, but that is being offset by strength in our other markets such as Ontario and BC. Similarly in the international, the Bank operates across a diverse number of portfolios across different geographies. Some books are performing better than others, but overall, credit quality remains good. Looking at our corporate and commercial loan books, we continue to see some energy-related provisions, but the portfolio continues to perform well. I'll have more to say on the energy portfolio specifically in a minute. Now looking at credit metrics, gross-impaired loans were up 5% quarter-over-quarter. The increase was driven by foreign exchange, as well as higher retail volumes of both Canada and international, as well as some on our global banking and markets exposure in the U.S. and Asia. Our net impaired loans as the percentage of our portfolio increased 2 basis points quarter-over-quarter. Net formations amounted to $788 million, down from the $982 million in the prior quarter. The improvement was driven primarily by lower formations in international, commercial and global banking and markets. Looking at our market risk which remains low, our average one-day all-bank bar was $11 million, down 2.9% from the prior quarter. Turning to Slide 14 which shows the trend in loss rates over the past five quarters for each of our businesses; the context, nearly 80% of our total PCLs relate to our retail business. As mentioned, our loan loss ratio this quarter is 47 basis points, down 12 from last quarter and excluding the collective allowance increase, but it is up 5 basis points year-over-year. In the international banking, the loan loss ratio was down 24 basis points quarter-over-quarter, given the large energy-related provision that was taken last quarter and is relatively stable compared to a year ago. Canadian banking's PCL ratio was 29 basis points, up 1 basis point compared to last quarter. On a year-over-year basis, higher retail loan losses draw the loan loss ratio up 6 basis points. The increase continues to reflect impart the Bank's evolution in asset mix, into higher return products. Global banking and markets improved materially from last quarter, given the lower energy-related provisions. Overall, we believe our credit portfolios remain in good condition and as we've been proactive in managing our energy exposures and then taking provisions when required, we expect PCLs to continue to perform around similar levels in Q4. Turning to the discussion of our energy portfolio on Slide 15, I wanted to take a step back for a moment to recap our position and expectations. The Bank now spent several quarters providing a detailed review of our energy portfolio and we believe our performance to-date has been reflective of that guidance. The management team's confidence is based on the Bank's strong understanding of these exposures including detailed name-by-name reviews, ongoing stress test, seniority in the capital of structure and proactively engaging our clients in addition to the quality of our borrowers. In every cycle, we can expect some bumps along the way like we saw last quarter, but we believe that our overall energy book remains well-positioned for the future. Last quarter, we said that the loan loss ratio reflected a peak level for the Bank and the energy-related loan losses were materially lower this quarter at $37 million, down from the $150 million last quarter. Our drawn corporate energy balances declined $200 million to $16.1 billion and our undrawn books is $11.9 billion. Approximately, 52% of our drawn portfolio is investment-grade and that increases to almost 70% for the undrawn commitments. Cumulative energy-related loan losses since 2015 are $314 million, translating to a loan loss ratio of about 1.9%. Looking specifically in our key areas of concern, namely the E&P and oil field services sectors, our exposure here has declined by $1.1 billion since Q2 as our management efforts continue to bring this book down. The Bank is fully on-track with our prior energy-specific guidance. In fact at this stage, we believe that we will operate the low end of our 3% to 3.5% guidance for cumulative loan losses over 2015 to 2017 period. We are encouraged that oil prices appear to have bottomed and continue to believe that there will be renewed interest in asset purposes in sales as well as providing borrowers access to markets for capital. Overall, we remain pleased by the resilience of our energy portfolio, senior ranking the capital structure and we will continue to proactively manage these exposures. With that, I'll now turn the call back to Brian.
Brian Porter
Thank you, Stephen. Before we open the call for questions, I'd like to highlight some of the key takeaways from our presentation and comment on the outlook for Scotia Bank. As Stephen covered, we are comfortable with our risk positions and overall credit quality. With regards to our energy exposures, we have been consistent in stating that losses will be manageable and we are confident that losses in this sector have peaked. In terms of our businesses as demonstrated by this quarter's results and year-to-date performance, we have good momentum in our Canadian and international banking businesses that we expect to continue through next quarter and into 2017. We were also encouraged by the improved results in global banking and markets for this quarter. With respect to our strategic agenda, we are continuing to make good progress. The restructuring charge announced last quarter will support investments to reduce structural cost and improve the customer experience, making us an even better bank. As we indicated, we expect to realize annual run rate expense savings of $350 million in 2017, growing to $550 million in 2018 and growing to over $750 million in 2019 from current expense levels. As a result, these initiatives are expected to drive a productivity ratio improvement of 200 to 250 basis points for 2019, providing a very good return for our shareholders. We also continue to transform the Bank digitally, making investments to redesign and streamline processes. In closing, we are pleased with our results this quarter. As we executed on strategy, we are delivering improved financial results and growing business momentum – all of which position us well moving forward. I'll turn the call back to Sean for the Q&A.
Sean McGuckin
Thanks, Brian. That concludes our prepared remarks. We'll now be pleased to take your questions. As the usual, please limit yourself to one question and then rejoin the queue to allow everyone the opportunity to participate in the call. Operator, can we have the first question on the phone please?
Operator
Thank you. The first question comes from Robert Sedran of CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.
Robert Sedran
Hi, good morning. Sean, when I look on Slide 9 on the international banking margin, it's almost the perfectly symmetrical V in a couple of consecutive material increases in that margin. When you think about business mix evolution and you think about monetary policy, should we continue to expect that upswing, or is there a level at which you think it’s going to stabilize?
Sean McGuckin
Yes. The asset mix continues to play out. We continue to see good growth in retail and commercial, the retail spreads generally have a better margin than commercial spread. The recent rate hikes will have a very modest increase to the margins. So overall, we'd expect margins to be at this level to slightly improving as time progresses.
Robert Sedran
Okay. And just quickly on the global banking line, I know that we often talk about this margin, but is the margin benefit there at all related to some of the risk-weighted asset, mitigation that helped the capital ratio this quarter or is it something totally different?
Brian Porter
The margin was largely impacted by our deposit growth and the continuing growth on ancillary revenue. That really helped our margin this quarter.
Robert Sedran
Okay, thank you.
Sean McGuckin
Next question, please.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Gabriel Dechaine of Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Gabriel Dechaine
Hi, good morning. I just want to ask a question about the hot topic of residential mortgages. Your growth is 3% year-over-year in the Canadian business and that's relatively low and I think at this stage, a lot of investors have actually viewed that as a positive. My question is are there some element of restraint on your part? And if so, why? Is it because spreads are unattractive or is it the risk profile you don't like? What's behind that trend?
Stephen Hart
Thanks, Gabriel. There is an element of choice, certainly. I think as we construct our balance sheet in a thoughtful and risk-sensitive way, our goal, I think is clear. We've said for over a year now that we want to not close, but certainly narrow the gap at our margin compared to our peers. So we're deliberately focusing on some asset classes more than others and very clearly, we're focused on deposits as well. On mortgages, we've had low single-digit growth in balances now for some time. It's clear that it exceeded some market share, but as I said at the outset, that is very much a choice. We feel very strongly that if we execute our strategy of investing in customer experience, shifting our business mix and improving our productivity ratio, we can continue to deliver earnings growth in the range of 6% to 9% medium term and that's what we seek to do.
Gabriel Dechaine
Your ceding share sounds mainly like your margin appetite I guess or preservation strategy. Not so much that you worry about something going bump in the night in Vancouver or something like that?
Stephen Hart
I think that's right, but look we never look at returns without looking at risk at the same time. So it's…
Gabriel Dechaine
It kind of go hand-in-hand.
Stephen Hart
But I think you've said this fair.
Gabriel Dechaine
Okay. And just a quick one for Sean here; If I look over the past four quarters, the difference between the PCLs excluding the net acquisition base to benefit and the actual reported PCL, is about $150 million over the past four quarters. Is that going to drop pretty significantly next year?
Sean McGuckin
That will start trending down in future quarters. The higher credit mark we're seeing this year is also often to offset some of the integration cost which we really don't call out.
Gabriel Dechaine
Got you.
Sean McGuckin
So just two pieces to that equation in terms of the net benefit.
Gabriel Dechaine
Are they fairly equivalent?
Sean McGuckin
No. I'd say the integration cost may be 30% to 40% of what we're seeing on credit mark.
Gabriel Dechaine
Okay, thank you.
Sean McGuckin
Next question, please.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from John Aiken of Barclays. Please go ahead.
John Aiken
Good morning. Stephen, in the MD&A there's a lot of talk on Canadian commercial and yet when I'm trying to go through the sub-pack, I wasn't able to figure out exactly where this was coming from. Is this largely related to Alberta, broadly based along business segments or am I missing something here?
Stephen Hart
I'm sorry. I'm trying to find the reference in the MD&A.
John Aiken
Yes. Just in terms of Canadian operative - provision for credit losses. You talked about the inflation on the consumer side, but you also talked about commercial.
Stephen Hart
Yes. Well, commercial, quite frankly, was fairly modest, it's actually well below its historic average right now. In fact we had one account in the oil field services and the rest were a little smattering here and there – not really related to Alberta specifically.
John Aiken
So Stephen, I guess where I'm going at is, I know we're at low levels at this stage in the game. Is this at a leading edge, or is this just the anomaly of where something popped up in the quarter?
Stephen Hart
No, I don't think there's any - the trend is actually quite positive. The rest of the portfolio on commercial, Canadian commercial is very strong, actually. As I said, we are watching the oil field services side and it could be a couple small bumps along the way on that but we see it very positively going forward.
John Aiken
Great, thanks. I'll re-queue.
Sean McGuckin
Next question, please.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Meny Grauman of Cormark Securities. Please go ahead.
Meny Grauman
Hi, good morning. Just to follow-up on Gab's question, there is lot of talk recently, we're talking about growth in uninsured mortgages, specifically in BC&F. I looked at your performance for the quarter, down 17% year-over-year. Just hoping you could explain what's driving that decline?
Sean McGuckin
Well, sorry -- what's the minus 17%?
Meny Grauman
The growth in uninsured BC mortgages?
Brian Porter
Okay. Let me make a few comments on the -- our mortgage plus overall. What I say Meny is, let's look at it first from a portfolio perspective. We did a very large bulk insurance deal in Q2. So 59% of our overall book now is insured, and the loan to value on the balance is 50%. If you look at this business from an originations perspective, the growth as Sean said is sub-3% year-over-year and if you -- it's near zero frankly if you include Tangerine. From an operational perspective, newly originated uninsured mortgages are very stable long-term values at about 63%. My point is, I think we're being prudent. I think we're being vigilant in this market but we're not overly concerned. We believe we’ve constructed a very, very solid mortgage book here but clearly, given that our strategy is to shift our business mix, we've made a deliberate choice to do less mortgages and more of other asset classes.
Meny Grauman
Thanks for that. And then if I could just shift gears and ask a broader question about the international business about Mexico specifically. US election is coming up and just wondering how you view risk of the U.S. election to your business in Mexico? And I won’t mention any candidates but do you see an impact on potential outcome of the U.S. election that will be negative to your Mexican business?
Nacho Deschamps
Well, in any election there is some kind of disruption and as you know, as you said you mentioned there can be volatility before the U.S. election but we don't see really anything material. We see our business growing in Mexico very strongly, both in terms of loans, in terms of deposits, this was particularly a strong quarter. We are growing 19% in Mexico in constant terms in loans and 23% in deposits. So there can be some volatility, some noise in the media but we don't see any structural impact.
Meny Grauman
Thank you.
Brian Porter
Next question, please.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Mario Mendonca of TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Mario Mendonca
Good morning. Question first for Sean, you referred to the seasonal -- or the seasonal effects on loan growth in international. I think your comment was, you'd expect that growth to resume going into 2017. So I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying here. Are you suggesting that the seasonal factors could lead to a further decline in Q4 so you're really guiding to 2017 recovery?
Sean McGuckin
No. I was saying that as we get beyond Q3, as we've normally seen that asset growth picks up again in the fourth quarter and we -- we were seeing that already. The approval was bit slower in Q3 because of the election, as we had mentioned. We're seeing good pickup in the loan growth area in the last couple of months which will come to in Q4 but maybe I will let Nacho talk about the pipeline as well going forward.
Nacho Deschamps
Yes, I agree Sean, it was really very tactical in the quarter. We are already, we have a strong pipeline. We have already seen lending demand growing in Peru after the election. And overall, for the Pacific Alliance countries we see a growth -- double digit growth as our trend in the following quarter. So this is just a very specific evolution during the quarter, basically based in Peru. But we expect very strong growth to continue in the Pacific Alliance countries currently growing 15% in year-over-year loans and that should be the trend we should see in the following quarters.
Mario Mendonca
Guys, just wanted to make sure that you weren't providing us any specific commentary on the short-term with reference to 2017, it wasn't a special reference then?
Nacho Deschamps
No, its Q4 -- going into Q4 and into '17 continuing the good year-over-year trends we've seen for this year.
Mario Mendonca
Just touch quickly on that Bulk insurance. I recognize that it was a Q2 thing. When a bank like Scotia makes such a big change, and the numbers were huge. I mean they were large compared to what we've seen from other banks. You're certainly not the only bank though. What I'm trying to get a handle on is, what are the implications of making that change beyond just changing the risk profile of the Bank? Does it reflects the -- or matches or improves the capital ratio somewhat but not materially because there is not a lot of capital on insured mortgages. Are there any other financial implications either from a marginal perspective or anything as you can have?
Brian Porter
No it really, I think Sean has got some higher benefit for capital, some benefit for liquidity in terms of creating liquid assets. It should not have any meaningful impact on margin, it's just a cost efficient way to enhance our capital and our liquidity positions.
Mario Mendonca
On the mortgage front, either as it relates to insurance or covered bonds or anything that would suggest you that margins in the mortgage business could deteriorate somewhat in 2017 or would you just refer us to the trade environment which are the normal factors?
Brian Porter
I think the later. I mean the mortgage market, as you know Mario, it has been intensely competitive for quite some time now and quite frankly, we don't expect that to change.
Mario Mendonca
On the regulatory front, the insurance front, that would worry you -- it's just the macro environment that we've got, that would always face to us?
Brian Porter
Precisely.
Mario Mendonca
Thank you.
Brian Porter
Next question, please.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Sohrab Movahedi of BMO. Please go ahead.
Sohrab Movahedi
Thank you. Quick question for just to follow-up under James, can you talk about what your decline rate on mortgage approval has been or mortgage applications has been let's say over the last year? More -- I don't need to know the exact number but how the trend has been, is it declining more? James O'Sullivan: Yes, I would say, generally and that would be true across the portfolio overall. So Sohrab if I think about -- look, the first thing I'd say is, in macro kind of markets like this, the most important thing for us to do is work with our customers or existing customers. That's job one, and we've certainly been doing that since early in 2015. But we have been taking progressive actions across a number of portfolios. So those would include -- if you'd expect, I think exceptions, tightening of originations, reduced pre-approvals. But I do want to highlight it's also included internally heightened focus and investment in collections, more segmentation, more analytics and we've added resources and people to deal with the macroeconomic environment as we see it.
Sohrab Movahedi
Okay, thank you. And just a quickie for Brian, any updates on the standard chart file?
Brian Porter
No, nothing really to report, it's -- as I've discussed before, we probably see this Standard [ph] chart as an investment and we'll proceed accordingly. Timing isn't really working on our favor right now but you'll hear from us when we think the market conditions turnaround.
Sohrab Movahedi
Thank you very much.
Brian Porter
You're welcome. Next question, please.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Peter Routledge of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Peter Routledge
Hi, I wanted to ask question about the U.S. money market reforms due in October to really to be in full force in October. And I know Scotia is active in that space for some of its funding. So can you talk about what the short-term implications just are for Scotia in terms of managing that transition? And then whether the longer-term funding cost implications?
Sean McGuckin
I'll take that call -- that question. As we have been shifting our wholesale funding, as you have noticed our wholesale funding is down significantly on a year-over-year basis, we've targeted better retail and commercial corporate deposit growth and that's playing out nicely which allows us to reduce our wholesale funding. So as the U.S. money market funds become less available, at times and nicely with our overgrowing reduction in wholesale funding, we've had reductions, close to about $20 billion so far last year that we've managed through. We're now getting to a point where we think the rate of reduction will slow but we have been terming out our wholesale funding to better position our liquidity metrics and we don't see it being a much of a challenge going forward on the remaining bit of the U.S. money markets trending lower.
Peter Routledge
Since you sort of term out more, you don't expect any pressure in the core margin?
Sean McGuckin
No, as I said we've been doing that and had some impact over the past year.
Peter Routledge
But it doesn't show -- I mean in your own data it doesn't show up you're not seeing real deterioration?
Sean McGuckin
No, we're earning to it. I know as James talks about business mix changes on the corporate lending side we're seeing good assets goals there to help our institute and as well, so we're not seeing as a major headwind at this point.
Peter Routledge
And your business mix changes aren't driven by the rising cost of funding?
Sean McGuckin
No, but it helps improve the margin which helps offset the either cost of terming up some of our funding [ph], so it goes hand-in-hand.
Peter Routledge
Okay, thank you.
Sean McGuckin
Any more questions on the call?
Operator
There are no further questions at this time.
Sean McGuckin
All right. Okay, thank you very much for participating. We look forward to hearing you again in Q4. Thank you.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the conference call for today. You may now disconnect your line and have a great day.