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The Bank of Nova Scotia (BNS) Q2 2015 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2015-05-29 13:33:06
Executives
Jake Lawrence - SVP of IR Brian Porter - President and CEO Sean McGuckin - CFO Stephen Hart - Chief Risk Officer Anatol von Hahn - Group Head, Canadian Banking Dieter Jentsch - Group Head, International Banking
Analysts
Meny Grauman - Cormark Securities Gabriel Dechaine - Canaccord Steve Theriault - Bank of America/Merrill Lynch Sohrab Movahedi - BMO Capital Markets Robert Sedran - CIBC Peter Routledge - National Bank Financial Mario Mendonca - TD Securities Doug Young - Desjardins Capital Markets Stefan Nedialkov - Citigroup Darko Mihelic - RBC Capital Markets
Jake Lawrence
Good morning and welcome to Scotiabank's 2015 Second Quarter Results Presentation. My name is Jake Lawrence, I am the Senior Vice President of Investor Relations for Scotiabank. Presenting to you this morning is Brian Porter, Scotiabank's President and Chief Executive Officer; Sean McGuckin, our Chief Financial Officer and Stephen Hart, the Bank's Chief Risk Officer. Following their comments, we'll be glad to take your questions. Also in the room with us to take questions are Scotiabank's business line group heads, Anatol von Hahn from Canadian Banking; Dieter Jentsch from International Banking and Mike Durland from Global Banking & Markets. And we also are joined by James O'Sullivan, Executive Vice President Global Wealth Management. Before we start, I'd like to refer you to Slide 2 of our presentation which contains Scotiabank's caution regarding forward-looking statements. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Brian Porter.
Brian Porter
Thank you, Jake. Good morning everyone. I'll start on Slide 4, we are pleased with our Q2 results and are seeing good performances across several of our businesses. For the quarter, we earned 1.8 billion of net income and delivered diluted earnings per share of $1.42, up 2% from the same period last year. Before I comment on the quarter, I wanted to highlight that we recently closed our 51% acquisition of Cencosud's financial services business in Chile, as well as Citibank's operations in Peru. Each of these acquisitions is a good fit for Scotiabank. They deepen our commitment to the countries of the Pacific Alliance, comprised of Mexico, Peru, Colombia and Chile and they are well within our established risk tolerances. We remain confident in the growth potential of the Pacific Alliance markets. In addition to the playing capital externally for acquisitions, internally we continue to ramp-up our investments in technology particularly mobile product development and digital solutions. Importantly, we are also developing deeper capabilities to deploy technology faster and based on a customer first approach. In this regard, we are confident that our new co-heads of technology Kyle McNamara and Michael Zerbs are charting an exciting course for us. Our efforts in technology will underpin our ability to better serve our customers and to reduce our structural cost. Now turning to our results this quarter; firstly, I wanted to highlight our continued strong performance in Canadian banking. As you know, this is our largest single business which generates almost half our earnings. The strong performance this quarter was driven impart by our higher margin which reflects our strategy to grow higher return businesses within our risk appetite. Our wealth management business in Canada had a particularly strong performance. In our international bank, we remain encourage by the underlying trends in our key Latin American markets, where we are continuing to see low double-digit asset growth locally and expect improved bottom-line growth in the second half of the year. With a common equity Tier 1 ratio of 10.6%, the Bank's capital levels remain strong. And we are well positioned to continue growing your bank. We remain confident that we have the right strategies in place to achieve our medium-term financial objectives. In a few moments, I'll make some additional comments about this quarter's performance and outlook for our businesses. And now I'll pass it over to Sean.
Sean McGuckin
Thanks, Brian. I'll begin on Slide 6, which shows our key financial performance metrics for the current quarter and comparative periods. As Brian mentioned, diluted earnings per share were $1.42, up 2% year-over-year. Revenue growth continued to be good at 4% year-over-year with solid asset growth in Canadian banking and international banking. Revenues were also positively impacted by foreign currency translation and higher fee income. Partially offsetting this growth was lower securities gains and lower contribution from associated corporations. Our core banking margin was stable. Expenses are up 8% year-over-year, after adjusting for the negative impact of foreign currency translation expenses rose 6%. About half of this increase was driven by higher compensation expenses mostly from year-over-year salary increases and higher pension cost due to the lower rate environment. Balance of the growth was split between higher volume related expenses, increased business taxes and technology investment and growth initiatives. On a year-to-date basis, expenses are up 5% slightly ahead of revenue growth resulting in year-to-date operating leverage of minus 1.1%. For the full year, we are aiming to produce flat, but slightly positive operating leverage. Moving to capital on Slide 7, as Brian mentioned the bank continues to have a strong capital position for the common equity Tier 1 ratio of 10.6%. The 30 basis points increase this quarter was a combination of retain earnings growth and a partial recovery of the net position of the employee pension obligations. As long-term interest rates increase in Q2 offer very low level in Q1. CET1 risk weighted assets were down 6 billion or 2% from last quarter to 329 billion. The decrease was due mostly to the impact of the stronger Canadian dollar on foreign currency denominated assets. This impact was partly offset growth in personal and business lending. Our Basel III leverage ratio is 4.1% unchanged from Q1. Turning now to the business line results beginning on slide eight. Canadian Banking had a strong quarter with adjusted net income of $829 million, up 9% year-over-year. These results are adjusted for the CI contribution in last year's comparatives and higher taxes on certain insurance activities, as a result of a tax legislation change this year. Loan volumes increased 3% year-over-year, with double-digit growth in credit cards, automotive and commercial lending. This growth was partly offset by the Tangerine mortgage run offs. Adjusting for the mortgage run off, loan growth was good at 6%. Deposits were up 4% year-over-year. Retail chequing account balances were up 9% and savings deposits were up 6%. The net interest margin rose 12 basis points year-over-year primarily due to shifts in product pricing and asset mix as well as changes in rate following the Bank of Canada's January interest rate cut. Risk adjusted margin up 8 basis points year-over-year. Our performance in wealth continued to be strong AUM and AUE levels were up 13% and 9% respectively versus the same period last year. Growth was driven by a combination of strong net sales and market appreciation. Provision for credit losses were up $29 million year-over-year to $169 million resulting in a four basis points increase in a loan lost ratio. The increase was primarily due to growth in relatively higher spread retail assets. Expenses increased 6% year-over-year primarily due to volume driven expenses, technology investments and wage salary increases. Overall, Canadian Banking delivered adjusted positive operating leverage of 1.9% year to date. Turning to the next slide on international banking, net income was down 1% from a strong Q2 last year. There are strong loan growths particularly in Latin America despite oil price and currency volatility. As expected we also started seeing higher foreign currency translation benefit. These positives were offset by lower margins, higher provisions versus the same period last year and higher business taxes. Q2 saw good volume growth again year-over-year with loans up 13% or 7% excluding the positive benefit of foreign exchange. Low cost deposit growth and international was also up 6% versus last year excluding positive foreign exchange. Loan losses were up year-over-year due to a reduced benefit from the Banco Colpatria credit mark and strong asset growth. Adjusting for the credit mark impact the loan loss rate declined from both Q2 last year and the previous quarter. The net interest margin was down 4 basis points from Q1 but continue to within the range of 4.65% to 4.75% margins continue to be impacted by Central Bank rate movements in 2014 particularly in Latin America. Expenses were up 10% year-over-year against an unusually low comparable period last year. Expense growth was driven by FX, business volume related expenses and inflation and higher businesses taxes in Columbia. The year to date expense growth of 6% slightly exceeded revenue growth resulting in year to date operating leverage of minus 1.4%. For the full year we continue to target positive operating leverage in international banking. Moving to slide Global Banking & Markets net income was up 3% from last year to $449 million. This quarter has strong result in capital markets and Canadian lending and benefited from the positive impact of FX. This was partially offset by lower contribution from investment banking and higher expenses. Net interest margin was down 8 basis points quarter over quarter due mainly to lower loan purchase discounts margins should stabilize around this level. Total corporate loan volumes were up 7% with a decrease in Asia more than offset by the impact of FX. Provisions for credit losses were higher than last year but remained at low levels. Expenses were up 7% over last year due mostly to the negative impact of foreign exchange. The remaining increase was largely driven by higher technology and project spends as well as higher salary and benefit cost. On a year to date basis expenses were up less than 1% adjusting for foreign currency translation were actually down 2%. I'll now turn to the other segment on slide 11 which incorporates the results of group treasury, smaller operating units and certain [corporate] adjustments. The results include the net impact of asset liability management activities. The other segment reported an adjusted net income of 32 million this quarter unchanged from the same quarter last year. Higher net gains on investment securities and lower taxes were offset by lower results from asset liability management activities and foreign exchange translation. This concludes my review of our financial results. I'll now turn it over to Stephen who will discuss risk.
Stephen Hart
Thanks, Sean, I'll begin on Slide 13. The underlying fundamentals of the bank's risk portfolios remains strong. Quarter-over-quarter the all-bank loan loss ratio improved 1 basis point to 41 basis points. Gross impaired loans were down 4% quarter-over-quarter or down 1% excluding the impact of foreign currency translation. The remainder of the decrease was in Canadian retail and global banking and markets portfolios. Net new formations of impaired loans declined to $495 million in Q2 from 771 last quarter and 598 in Q2 of last year. The improvement was noted in all three business lines and represents a number of risk mitigating initiatives that have been taken over the last few months. Looking at our market risk, our average one-day all-bank VaR was $10.5 million, down from the $11.2 million in the prior quarter. Slide 14 shows the trends in loss rates over the past five quarters for each of our businesses. Year-over-year Canadian Banking's PCL ratio increased 4 basis points and 1 basis points quarter-over-quarter due to the higher retail provisions, primarily from the asset exchanges that John has already noted. The portfolio credit quality continues to be strong with 93% secured and the delinquently stable on the last year. International Banking saw loss rates decline 14 basis points quarter-over-quarter due to the lower commercial provisions in Peru and the Caribbean as well as an improvement in our Mexican retail book. Year-over-year International Banking CCL ratio rose 3 basis points due to higher retail losses in Columbia and the Caribbean partly offset by lower provision in Peru, excluding the Colpatria credit mark the adjusted international banking PCL ratio was down 8 basis points from Q2 last year and 19 basis points from last quarter. The PCL rate in global banking markets was up 4 basis points from last year but remains very low at 8 basis points unchanged from Q1. Overall the banks' loss rates remained low well within our risk appetite and the credit portfolios are in good position. Turning to Slide 15, I wanted to provide an update on our oil and gas exposure which remains in area of market interest. At 15.5 billion, our drawn exposures and the mix across upstream, midstream, downstream and services are essentially unchanged quarter-over-quarter. Our undrawn corporate oil and gas commitment stand at roughly 12 billion, down from the 12.7 billion in Q1. We continue to run stress tests often and update our market pricing assumptions on a regular basis. At present, the effective oil price assumption used in our borrowing base calculations is well below the current market prices which as you know have risen since Q1. There were know non-accrual loan formations in this sector during the quarter and we continue to believe that our oil and gas exposures are very manageable and the risks remain well controlled. And with that I'll turn the call back to Brian.
Brian Porter
Thank, Stephen. Before we open the call for questions, I'd like to comment briefly on each business line's performance this quarter and make some brief comments on our outlook. Canadian Banking had a strong quarter. Margins were higher even in the current low rate environment and we had strong growth in credit cards, automotive and commercial lending . In addition, wealth management continues to deliver strong earnings. For the balance of the year, we expect continued growth in automotive loans and credit cards. For the latter, we continue to see great penetration rates with existing Scotia Bank customers who are increasingly using our credit cards including the Scotia Momentum Visa and the Amex Travel card. As we grow our credit's business the resulting shift in asset mix will translate into higher loss rates of a few basis points. However higher assets yields will continue to more than compensate for the increase and we value the improved cross-sell and deeper customer relationships that come with growing our cards business. Expenses are prudently managed and we will still expect to achieve adjusted positive operating leverage for fiscal 2015. Finally at our Canadian Banking Investor Day in April 2014, we set up some key strategic initiatives over the next three to five years that will drive our earnings growth. By way of update I am pleased to report that we are tracking well against these objectives and are meeting or exceeding most of these financial and strategic goals. Looking at the International Bank, we are pleased with our results and the momentum that has been built in the first half of the year. For this quarter, we again had good growth in both assets and deposits. In particular we had strong asset growth in Latin America, despite oil price and currency volatility, with 11% loan growth year-over-year after adjusting for the positive impact of foreign exchange. Compared to Q1 loan growth in Latin America was very strong at 4%. Also contributing to the improved performance in International Banking this quarter was the English Caribbean, which is benefiting from lower oil prices and a stronger U.S. economy. Partially offsetting the improved performance in the English Caribbean was the weaker performance from country such as Puerto Rico which continues to experience economic challenges. As we have indicated in recent quarters we expect strong bottom line growth from international banking in the second half of this year and we remain confident in that outlook. That improved performance will be driven by three factors that we have discussed previously. Firstly we expect low double digit asset growth in our key Latin American markets resulting in profitable market share gains in almost all products. Secondly our margin continues to stabilize within a range as we earn through the impact of central bank rate cuts in 2014. And thirdly we expect expenses and loss rates remain stable. And finally we expect FX reduce the positive tail wind for earnings if currencies remain at or around current levels. In our global banking and markets division we had a good quarter. We had strong performances in our capital markets and Canadian lending businesses. For the second half of 2015 our wholesale platform continues to be well positioned for stable earnings growth. Our corporate loan book should continue to provide good volume and earnings growth, partially offset by the repositioning of our balance sheet in Asia. Investment banking results are expected to improve given the outlook for more favourable market conditions and our pipeline. We remain confident our trading businesses are well diversified and they have low earnings volatility. And with that I'll turn the call back to Sean for Q&A.
Sean McGuckin
Thanks, Brian. That concludes our prepared remarks. We would be now be pleased to take your questions. Please limit yourself to one question and then rejoin the queue to allow everyone the opportunity to participate in this call. Operator, can we have the first question on the phone please.
Operator
Thank you. The first question comes from Meny Grauman of Cormark Securities. Please go ahead.
Meny Grauman
You talked about the success that you're having in cross-selling cards to existing clients. I'm wondering if you have any metrics on this that you're able to share with us?
Anatol von Hahn
Yes. Meny its Anatol here. Just to put it into context one when we were at the investor conference we talked about our cross sales to existing customers of somewhere around 23% to 24% what we've now hit in crossed the 30% cross sales line which is past then what we thought we would. So what is done is that it's allowed us to both sale to our existing customers and also cross sale into products that previously we haven't done as much cross selling to customers in the mortgage portfolio as an example. So, it very much fits into our cross sales strategy.
Meny Grauman
And then just a follow-up on the cards, you talked about your outlook for credit. But I'm wondering, there's definitely question marks about credit going forward in Canada and I'm wondering how much do macro considerations play into the decision to really move stronger into cards? Is that a consideration given the fact that there are question marks around where credit on the consumer side can go in Canada?
Stephen Hart
Meny its Stephen Hart. On that we've structured inhaler this expansion as indicated before really to our existing client base for the most part, so these are people that we've already got a track record with and understand their credit profiles. So, we think this is a fairly prudent policy and in fact they are increasing our percentage closer to actually where the other banks are. The risk adjusted margins of this business are quite superior and accretive to us.
Anatol von Hahn
And Meny. One other things just to add to what Stephen said the single biggest driver in terms of the risk and this is as true for credit cards as it is for other products, is employment and so that's something that we follow very closely so towards your question in terms of the macro picture yes we follow it and it fits very much into our strategy in terms of cross selling to our customers and attracting new customers.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Gabriel Dechaine of Canaccord. Please go ahead.
Gabriel Dechaine
Good morning. The first question is on the Canadian margin a big surprise spread pickup there, 10 basis points quarter-over-quarter. What I'm reading into it is that your mix is shifting towards the higher spread origination mix, and maybe there's some mortgage activity, re-pricing activity that helped you during the quarter. Could you walk us through some of the dynamics that are causing what looks to be a very big margin pickup? Is that sustainable at these levels?
Sean McGuckin
Hi Gabriel. It's Sean. I'll talk about one. So, about half of that 10 basis points sequential increase was that you said due to estimate changes so as we see much greater growth in our credit cards, auto lending and commercial lending which had a very strong quarter the margins on those are obviously much higher than our mortgages which had a slower growth rate just about half of it. The other half was a mix of pricing basically and some of the mortgages as to get refinanced are being priced slightly more favorable than we've seen in the past where we've had deeper discounts, so we're not seeing the same level of discounts we've seen in the past and also there was some uptake on the prime VA spread for our prime based mortgages as prime drops by about 15 basis points less than the overall funding rate on the book. So as we look going forward the evolving asset mix to higher margin business within our risk appetite should drive higher asset spreads which will help offset some downward pressure on margins on the deposit side in this lower rate environment. But overall we look quite favorably on our margin outlook.
Gabriel Dechaine
So stable from current levels?
Sean McGuckin
Yes, plus or minus a few basis points, we don't expect to repeat 10 basis points next quarter, but it's like a new level now, we'll go from there.
Gabriel Dechaine
And what's the kind of maybe for Anatol, what are the kind of spread comparisons on mortgages today that you're originating versus two, three years ago?
Anatol von Hahn
So what it was two years ago we had a large number of customers that took two-year mortgages that were quite competitively priced. We're seeing an uptick in those rollovers that are in higher to the tune of low two digits high single digits increase in terms of the renewal rate. And of course one of the things that's now happening is that the customer behavior is starting to change and we're seeing more fixed rate longer term mortgages and that makes it very attractive from a margin point of view. We'll see more of that in Q3 we believe.
Gabriel Dechaine
And then my next question is for Brian. I'm not going to ask you to comment on any specific M&A rumors because it's not your style, but just conceptually a lot of the assets that we hear about coming up for sale are from big financial institutions that have faced pressures from regulators because they're too complex, too big, too difficult to manage. And if you happen to be one of the banks that ends up buying some of these assets from small, maybe to some larger pieces, what is Scotia doing differently or better than some of these larger global institutions to assure us that you're not becoming too complex or too difficult to manage? What's your approach?
Brian Porter
It's a good question I'll step back a bit here and say that over the past two years we've de-risked the Bank a fair bit. We're not in Egypt anymore, we're not in Russia any more, we're closing our operation in Turkey, more focus on our Asia lending business. We've cut the amount of banks that we do corresponded banking with dramatically. So we've de-risked part of the portfolio in the way we used to business. But we're focused on our priority markets here in Canada, Mexico, Peru, Chile and Colombia largely, that doesn't grew that we won't do a transaction within in our existing footprint away from the priority markets, if it makes us a better bank and it's on strategy. I'd say that if you look at the big banks that have been exiting the market largely I think the theme of the reasons that they have to repatriate capital and go home are largely they decentralize too much. And if you look at as we have we've conducted a number of due diligences on different assets and there wasn't a common theme country-by-country in terms of risk appetite systems, people all sorts of things. I just think they got too big to manage, you know what the end of result was. So we spend a lot of time on this that's why we've been instrumentalist as we've grown our business internationally. We have to look at the big picture and say how big is big, what sort of blend of profitability do we want between Canada and outside of Canada, what are the rating agencies implication of the large acquisition internationally and that's why the largest acquisition done internationally to-date is a $1 billion. We don't want one country to get too big. So we spend a lot of time Gabriel thinking of these issues and we'll continue to do that as we move forward here.
Gabriel Dechaine
Is that 1 billion mark acquisition size kind of the proxy for how big?
Brian Porter
I knew you would comment.
Gabriel Dechaine
I had about 10 I could ask.
Brian Porter
Is something is on strategy within our risk appetite as I said before, you're not going to see us plant a new flag in a different country or put $5 billion for 10% of the bank in country x that doesn't make sense for us. So we're looking for acquisitions that meet all our financial criteria whether it's accretion, whether it's ROIC. But we also have to deal with the ease of integration how is it from a technology perspective, what are the people issues, what are the social issues, all those things.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Steve Theriault of Bank of America/Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.
Steve Theriault
First, just to follow-up on international, probably for Dieter. Dieter, I've noted some negative GDP revisions in some of your core geographies this quarter. So wondering how that weighs if at all on your outlook medium term and I guess second half of this year, are you feeling just confident in the second half. And wondering if you can just put into context currency, is that a small or a large factor in terms of your confidence for the second half?
Dieter Jentsch
Steve your first part of your question, our economies are projected to grow 2.5% to 3.5% and due to latter half 2015 and we've shown we can grow a very good bank and good volumes at this growth rates and you look at our numbers this quarter we posted strong growth in Latin America. And our pipelines continue to be very robust both on the retail and the commercial side. So we're very confident about the second half and when you combine the volume outlook what we've been able to demonstrate with stable margins, good expense control and stable PCL environment we're confident the second half will be a positive one for us. Currency was helpful, the tailwinds did help us as Brian and Sean both mentioned but we see the core business fundamentals driving in the second half going forward.
Steve Theriault
So currency is not by any stretch of the imagination of predominant factor in the Q2 year on year.
Dieter Jentsch
The currency tailwinds that we had continuing the first half we look to having those continue in the second half.
Steve Theriault
Okay. Thanks for that Dieter. And for Mike Durland, a question on the budget, not surprisingly, which is targeting some of your tax efficient trading businesses. I know its early days. Can you tell us how much of your either consolidated capital markets; TEB is linked to the strategies, the trades that are coming under scrutiny?
Sean McGuckin
Steve this is Sean I'll kick off and if you want to go deeper maybe Mike can add in that. You will hear similar you've heard from the other banks this past its early days we're working with our customers on this in terms of what they're thinking is around different strategies. In terms of the impact 1% to 2% of our net income if you want to frame it compare to the other. As you know we're in a consultation period with the government on this. We will go back as an industry in terms of some thoughts on that. But we have a well-diversified capital markets platform and should we need to redeploy capital funding, we've got lot of outlets to do that and continue to grow our capital markets business.
Unidentified Analyst
Is the 1% to 2% pre any mitigation or post any mitigation?
Sean McGuckin
That's pre.
Steve Theriault
And I'm wondering -- maybe it's for Mike or maybe you can [field] it as well, Sean but just on mitigation, and again, realizing its early days, should we be thinking of mitigation in terms of similar domestic clients may be doing this business in a slightly different way? Or is it more -- or could it potentially be exploring offshore trading strategies that maybe aren't impacted by the budget that could replace some of these trades you've done on a more domestic basis?
Unidentified Company Representative
I'll tackle that. I think that it's going to be a combination likely of -- these are important transactions for our client base, so my view would be there will be some mitigation in the context of the business that we do today. For our particular bank, my expectation would be the majority of the mitigation over time will be us growing our organic business and outside of the context of this particular transaction or this particular type of business.
Steve Theriault
But just growing the organic business in a plain vanilla fashion outside of what the budget is.
Unidentified Company Representative
Yes, as I've been mentioning quite a bit in recent months, this Bank has a large opportunity on our organic footprint to grow our business. That's where we're going to be very focused in terms of redeploying capital and that includes this but it also includes other parts of our business where we're looking to change the asset mix in favor of our organic platform.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Sohrab Movahedi of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Sohrab Movahedi
Thank you. Brian, I guess a couple of capital related questions. First, with the Cencosud and the Citi Peru acquisitions now closed, do you have management bandwidth for another acquisition in the next two to four quarters?
Brian Porter
The answer is yes. Cencosud and Citibank Peru is tuck in, it's really a customer acquisition strategy, its eight customers, largely personal and commercial banking. So that fits in quite nicely with our existing business in Peru. In terms of Cencosud, we think this is going to be -- this has a ton of potential because we have the ability to cross-sell to over 2 million customers in Chile. We like the risk adjusted returns of the business. But yes, we have certainly more bandwidth. As you know, we spent a lot of time over the past two years in our international business, Dieter and his team, just making our business run better, more efficiently, focusing on costs and integrating candidly what we had purchased in prior years to making sure that everything was working properly, so the reality is yes, we've got the people in place to do the due the diligences and do the integrations and focus on acquisitions if they become available in their own strategy.
Unidentified Analyst
That's perfect, and so pro forma those acquisitions, we estimate you'd be let's say closer to 10.4% CET1 ratio. Do you feel like you have excess capital at 10.4% or do you think you're about where you want to be for now?
Brian Porter
The two acquisitions are about 20 basis points of capital in Q3. I think that as the world continues to adjust from a banking perspective you're seeing capital levels around 10 or north of that. We're very comfortable. We like having optionality and flexibility and we like that. So would we run -- would we do an acquisition where our capital levels got to 10-ish? Yes, we would. Going a little bit below 10, maybe beyond that, I probably wouldn't -- we wouldn't feel comfortable.
Operator
The next question comes from Robert Sedran of CIBC. Please go ahead.
Robert Sedran
Hi, good morning. Just wanted to come back to the Canadian margin if I could? Sean, your explanation on a year-over-year basis makes a lot of sense in terms of the evolving business mix but, when I look sequentially I don't see a whole lot of change in terms of personal and credit cards or even residential mortgages. I guess Tangerine has moved a little bit, but most of the other lines have it. Is just something else going on sequentially rather as opposed to just the asset mix?
Stephen Hart
About half of it is asset mix and it's at the series of 1 basis points that make up half, so about 5 basis points of 10, you got one basis point coming from the credit cards and the commercial, from the auto lending, from the tangerine mortgage runoffs so it's not just one product driving that, it's a series of ones. And as I said on the other half, as Anatol mentioned, we're seeing better pricing spreads in our mortgages, less discounts than we had seen in the past, particularly on renewals. And the prime BA helped us on our prime based lending.
Unidentified Analyst
That answers both sequential and year on year then.
Stephen Hart
Absolutely.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. And is there anything Anatol on the tangerine side from a pricing perspective that you're doing on either side or I guess on the deposit side that is moving it around and changing your competitive position in the market at all or are you staying as aggressive as you ever have been in that?
Anatol von Hahn
Maybe, Robert, to take us back, when we talked at the Investor Day, on a number of calls since then, strategically tangerine continues to be focused on deposits and on savings and they're doing well at that. At the same time, we're converting tangerine to become a direct bank. So it's not so much on the pricing towards your question whether you're seeing changes. I think what you're going to see is towards the latter part of this year where we're coming out with a credit card and really strengthening the relationship with our customers in tangerine to become their direct bank.
Unidentified Analyst
And Sean, just a quick housekeeping question. Are Cencosud and Citi Peru going to create any noise in the international segment in coming quarters or is it -- are they small enough that it's not going to matter a whole lot to the financials, by way of integration and stuff I'm talking.
Sean McGuckin
There will be some integration costs more so on the Citibank Peru which you'll see in Q3 and Q4. If it's large enough we will highlight that for you. But overall going into 2016 most of the integration costs will be behind us and we'll see the full first year run rate starting '16.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Peter Routledge of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Peter Routledge
Thanks. Brian, a bigger picture question for you as you think about adding to your platform. Scotiabank, you've got a growth strategy in Latin America, a core franchise in Canada. One could argue that you've got -- Scotiabank has a great deal of exposure to the commodities based economies, given your mix of businesses and I wonder if longer term it makes sense as a priority to proportionately but not absolutely reduce the bank's exposures to commodity driven economies, say Asia and the US. I'd like to get your thoughts on that.
Brian Porter
We spend more time focusing on the big picture in terms of demographics, because demographics really drive what's happening in banking markets. So again, if you look at the Pacific alliance countries, it's the sixth largest economy in the world, average age is 29 versus 39 in North America. There's growing middle classes. So we like that. And whether it's leverage towards base metals or oil and gas, it is what it is. If you look at Asia, the reason why we haven't done more in Asia is you've got ownership restrictions basically in every country, which limit us to 20%. And keep in mind; we've been in Asia a long period of time. Running something in the same time zone is a lot easier than running something that's 12 or 14 hours ahead. That's just on a day-to-day management basis. So look, we see tons of opportunity to continue to build our business organically through acquisition in our Latin American business as you've heard me say on a number of occasions, and we just keep going back to the big picture demographics because that's what's going to drive as Dieter said, we're quite comfortable that our countries are growing GDP rates of 2.5% to 3.5% we can do very well, thank you very much, in those countries.
Peter Routledge
Great. Thanks for that. And Steve, you mentioned very strong credit results, obviously. You mentioned the Bank took some mitigating initiatives. And I wonder where did you take them and what did you do?
Stephen Hart
Thanks Peter. It was a combination of events and a lot of it was focused on our international retail operation, we put in new collection systems. We've added to our people in that side. We've also taken a look at and did some asset sales of some underperforming portfolios. In addition, we've introduced some new credit scoring score cards that better differentiate the market so helps on the originations upfront. So, it's a number of different like probably across all the countries probably 30 or 40 different individual initiatives, but they're all starting to take hold now.
Peter Routledge
How those initiatives changed your origination in those countries going forward?
Stephen Hart
It really focuses on the segmentation and we key on the client base that best can use the product. So it hasn't slowed down our volumes per se, but it's improved our differentiation.
Peter Routledge
To the asset sales sort of -- were they triggered by for example better credit scoring or better view into the risks in your portfolio or was it just coincident?
Stephen Hart
The asset sales were ones that we've been working on for a number of quarters and quite frankly they were portfolios that had been underperforming for a number of years and, therefore, it was better with someone else and we got a better price for it than it would be to work it out ourselves.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Mario Mendonca of TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Mario Mendonca
Good morning. First a quick follow-up question to those asset sales. Did any of those asset sales result in gains or losses that are notable this quarter?
Unidentified Company Representative
Not in size, no.
Mario Mendonca
Okay. Moving on to the NCIB so I see that you announced the NCIB about 2%. In some cases NCIBs are just nice to have and in other cases the Company actually intends to use it. Brian, which one, which category would this one fall under?
Brian Porter
I think it fits in the nice to have category. As I've said before, this is we like it in the toolbox. We've generally used our NCIB to offset option exercise and we did buy a little bit of stock in Q1 and that was just a function of market conditions and the fact that we felt our stock was cheap on any historic or relative valuation metric, whether it was price to earnings or price to book. But we keep in the toolbox and we'll govern ourselves accordingly.
Mario Mendonca
And now just one final more broad question. So, the Bank's leverage ratio of 4.1%, highest in the group, the capital ratio looks very good. It looks like it gives you a fair bit of flexibility beyond anything to do with acquisitions, just to grow the balance sheet if you wanted to. And we saw a little bit of that this quarter, the liquidity's higher, loan's a lot higher. Is that the intention then over the next little while if earnings growth in Canada slows, as we all expect it to, to really just inflate the balance sheet and use that capital flexibility to drive earnings?
Brian Porter
I certainly wouldn't use the word inflate, but there's lots of business opportunity. If I walk across the bank throughout all our businesses there are a lot of organic growth opportunities for us, whether it's commercial banking here in Canada, whether it's GBM in Mexico, just to give you two. There's lots of opportunity for us to grow the business and within our risk tolerances, within our risk appetite, and that's what we've been doing here as we reposition the Bank within our strategy. We like how we're positioned.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Doug Young of Desjardins Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Doug Young
Actually my question's been asked and answered. Thank you.
Unidentified Company Representative
Thank you. Next question.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from Stefan Nedialkov of Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Stefan Nedialkov
Yes. Hi guys its Stefan from Citi. Question on the international businesses. I guess more of a big picture question again for Dieter. What do you guys think about concentrating your resources on one country rather than expanding into new territories beyond your priority area? What is the calculus that you do? Is it sort of a diversification strategy for the future, one country matures and then you move on to the other one and you kind of have it all in your basket? Isn't it actually better maybe to focus on a couple of countries and do really well and expand, for example, Mexico. You seem to be capturing market share which is great in corporate, mortgages, et cetera. At this rate you will probably continue to gain more market share. Is this more of a sensible strategy rather than spreading your self's across a number of new markets.
Dieter Jentsch
Stefan, its Dieter here. Brian's been quite clear that our focus has been on the core Pacific Alliance countries and we've got lots of opportunity to grow in those areas. We see that as being the appropriate places to be and with good opportunities and we have seen our growth rates and opportunities commensurate this quarter. We've seen good volume growth and good opportunities. So we continue to see good opportunities focusing on those four countries and that's where our focus will be going forward.
Unidentified Analyst
And just a follow-up on Mexico particularly, the competition has been pretty interesting, so to say, especially in corporate lending over the past year or so. How are you guys managing to capture market share? Is it on pricing? Is it on better service, better product, et cetera?
Dieter Jentsch
We've been focusing on streamlining end-to-end processes and it's been on turnaround time and customer service and we captured market-share and you're correct there on both the corporate banking and the commercial banking front. We're very pleased with the progress that's been made. But it's doing with the end-the-end processes.
Operator
Thank you. Next question is from Darko Mihelic from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Darko Mihelic
Just first housekeeping question with respect to the taxes in Colombia, the business taxes, I wonder if you can help me understand is that an ongoing thing that's every quarter or is it once a year? How significant was it if you can just give me any clue that would help my model? Thanks.
Unidentified Company Representative
It's once a year and the kind of requires to book it when it gets charged to us. So you'll see at [summer] charge Q2 next year and then it tails off a bit into '17, ballparks $10 million to $12 million.
Darko Mihelic
And then just a follow-up question I guess for Anatol, we've now seen a very big pick up in margin, two years ago you had a sale effectively in mortgages, why not do it again?
Anatol von Hahn
Look I think one of the things and if you go back to the priorities that we have it's about deepening relationships, but it's at the same time whilst we're deepening relationships we're bringing in new customers to Scotiabank that we're doing through a number of different initiatives. One of them is through mortgages. The other is through [seen] and then also through -- and cross selling through to credit cards. We look at all our opportunities in terms of what we do. If you look at the mortgage market itself, we're very well positioned because we have three different distribution channels and they are doing very, very well. In fact branches, brokers and our own salesforce do well. We don't differentiate on price we compete on price, but we differentiate on service and that has proven to be a very successful formula for us and will continue to do so.
Darko Mihelic
And maybe just quickly running back to international my last question in the international business, we're talking about much improved results or improved results I suppose for the back half of the year, when I look at the supplemental I see a big reduction in the branches, where are you with respect to branch closures in that process? How much more is there to go and is that part of the reason why we have so much confidence in the back half of the year?
Brian Porter
We're very pleased of the progress we've made and we look at our plan we've accomplished about 75% of the planned closures and consolidations that we set out 18 months ago and you can see it in our first couple of quarters where we've recorded flat expense growth and you can see it in the Caribbean numbers where we have positive operating leverage which is a real feat to our management teams and they have done a great obviously in reducing the expenses on the distribution network. And we have positive operating leverage in Central America as well. So the tactical expense control and the closure of branch and consolidations is substantially complete and will be fully done by end of this year.
Operator
Thank you. The last question comes from Stefan Nedialkov of Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Stefan Nedialkov
Just wanted to ask you on the resolvability in Europe, the U.S., et cetera, big banks that are internationally active. People talk about multiple points of entry, single points of entry et cetera. At what level are you in terms of your discussions with [indiscernible] in terms of capital requirements in the unfortunate case of resolvability and is that likely to have any negative progressions for the capital requirements over the years to come?
Sean McGuckin
Yes, it's still early days on resolvability, the [bail at] regime that [Basel] has put out here is most recent Canadian budget made reference to that still expect the framework to develop in Canada, in terms of single point versus double point of entry in that same budget, they did indicate the finance department that a [holdco] was not the necessary solution here. So that is not necessarily on the table, but it's still early days in terms of how that whole resolvability framework gets developed here in Canada. But I don't think from a cost standpoint it's going to be that substantive to our operations. A - Sean McGuckin: Thank you. Now I'd like to turn the call back to Brian just for some brief closing remarks.
Brian Porter
Sure, thanks, Sean and thank you all for joining us on our call today. We're pleased with our results for Q2 and we look forward to the balance of the year. So thank you for joining us.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen this does conclude the conference call for today. You may now disconnect your line and have a great day.