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Beach Energy Limited (BEPTF) Q2 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2022-02-14 11:34:06
Operator
[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Daniel Levy from Citi.
Daniel Levy
Couple of quick ones for me. Can we please get an update on how CapEx is tracking in the Otway, just given it's a big component of your market cap? Is there anything left in the contingency for that project? Morné Engelbrecht: Daniel, thanks for the question. I mean, in terms of CapEx, we've maintained our CapEx guidance for FY '22. Obviously, the Otway offshore plays a big part in that guidance. We don't see any creep in terms of the CapEx from our Otway offshore point of view, and it's still within the range that we previously spoke about at the September Investor Day, which is around the AUD1.1 billion to AUD1.3 billion gross. There's no change to any of that. And as you would expect, we do have contingency in place for a project of this size.
Daniel Levy
So just in terms of operationally, has the weather been a bit friendlier in this half in terms of executing the drilling on those wells? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes, no, definitely. So the weather has definitely been kind to us over the last 2 or 3 months. And that's been reflected in the drilling performance we've seen on the Thylacine wells to date. So, we're pleasing to see the drilling performance there, and well done to the team there.
Daniel Levy
And then just another quick one. We've seen some of your peers start to ramp-up their hedging for this year and next year. Can we expect anything from -- like that from you guys given out healthy futures pricing at the moment? I think at the quarterly result, you said you had 0 hedging in place? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, Daniel, it's something we do assess on an ongoing basis. I think from our perspective, we obviously got a great balance sheet. So we don't need to do it from a balance sheet point of view. We've got a great set of assets in terms of our gas portfolio. So most of our gas is sold into fixed-price and CPI-linked contracts. So from that perspective, we don't see an immediate need to do any hedging. Obviously, with going forward and seeing how things sort of play out, that might change over time. But for the moment, we're very comfortable in terms of being unhedged. So I don't know, that's probably -- hopefully that answers your question, Daniel?
Daniel Levy
Yes. It does. And sorry, I'll just sneak one more quick one in there. I noticed the quarterly you were drilling the Beanbush [degaussing] gas wells. I didn't see any kind of more news on that in this result. Can you give me a bit of an update on that exploration program? Morné Engelbrecht: Do you want to go for it, Sam? We got Sam here as well.
Sam Algar
Yes. [indiscernible] for Exploration and Subsurface. That's a well operated by Santos. So I think it's appropriate for them to comment on that particular operation.
Operator
The next question comes from James Redfern from Bank of America.
James Redfern
Just 2 questions, please. I was just maybe wondering if you could please talk a bit more about the -- about when we might have an announcement around the appointment of a CEO, or obviously, Morné, you're the Acting CEO at the moment. Just wondering if you can please talk to how that search is going for, both domestically and internationally. And when we might get an announcement on that? And then I just got one more question after that, please. Morné Engelbrecht: James, thanks for the question. Obviously, the CEO search has been conducted by the Board. So the Board is conducting a thorough search process. As you said, domestically, internationally to find the best possible candidate for the role. I think it's fair to say that the Board will go through a thorough process and there's no fixed timing in terms of announcing a possible candidate for the role. I think I'll leave it with at that point. And obviously, the Board is working, like I said, very diligently and conducting that search. So, I'll probably leave it at that, but there's no rush in terms of any timing from that perspective. Obviously, the Board want to make sure that they put the best possible candidate in the role.
James Redfern
Okay. And then the second question which is really around the Perth Basin, just in terms of the Waitsia project, the border closures and so on and cost inflation in Western Australia. I just want to confirm that there's no changes or no concerns to the, I guess, the CapEx guidance for Waitsia Stage 2 and then also, I guess, the timeline for that project, please? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, James, from -- like all other industries in terms of COVID, we are dealing with, obviously, getting people in and out of WA and assisting the operator there in terms of [indiscernible], in terms of dealing with that. We haven't seen any material impacts to that operation and the project and any of our other operations as well. So the team is working diligently to make sure that we can get people there in an efficient and safe manner as well. From a capital perspective, we haven't seen any major capital inflation in terms of that project. As you would know that most of the project there and maybe Thomas is on the line, he can speak to that more broadly. In terms of the [club] contract, that represents about 60% of the overall capital program, which is based on a fixed price turnkey sort of contract. But in terms of the capital inflation, we're not seeing that playing out at the moment. And then in terms of timing, we still hold the timing in terms of what we've said to the market previously, which is the second half of 2023 in terms of first LNG from that project. Thomas, if you're on the line, do you want to expand on the cost side of things?
Thomas Nador
Yes, I can. Look, the only comment I would add to what you said, Morné is that, something like 70% of the project is Australian content. So that significantly helps mitigate potential COVID-19-related supply constraints. And secondly, it is a lump sum Turkey contract that was designed, negotiated and executed during the height of COVIC. So both [ plus ] the EPC contractor, as well as the Mitsui Beach joint venture have allowed both allowances and contingency to help safeguard and protect that AUD700 million to AUD800 million gross guidance CapEx number that we've put in the market.
Operator
The next question comes from Tom Allen from UBS.
Tom Allen
Just a quick question first thing on Western Flank oil. So with decline rates outperforming your expectations and guidance range, can you just talk to any change in your technical approach to reservoir modeling that you might apply on that asset going forward just to help build confidence and what the resource will produce in the coming years? Morné Engelbrecht: I might throw it to Sam on that question.
Sam Algar
Yes, sure. So, the commentary there relates to 2 things, really. Firstly, we have undertaken a reservoir pressure maintenance strategy for the Bauer Field, which has shown some really positive results. So, production in Bauer is flattening out, it's declined quite materially. And the second thing, obviously, is that, we have -- we've drilled 5 development wells in the Western Flank, and we're looking forward to the production on those wells will deliver to us in the second half of the year.
Tom Allen
And Morné, can you please just elaborate on a little bit more on your capital management options going forward? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes, look, I mean, that's a continue discussion with the Board as well in terms of our capital management framework and how we think about it. Obviously, from where we sit right now in terms of our capital program, we're spending AUD1 billion this year and AUD1 billion next year, which, as you would expect, is quite a big capital program in terms of our market cap, so it represents 2/3 of our market cap currently. So we want to make sure that we can deliver on those projects over the next year or 2. And obviously, complete the offshore program, drilling program as well over the next 6 to 12 months. So we want to drive completion of those and then look at how things pan out over the next 12 months to reassess how we think about our capital management options. I mean, some of those might include the usual suspects in terms of looking at our dividend policy and framework or other capital management initiatives that might come up. We're not discounting any of those right now, but we need to get through our heavy investment in our offshore project in Waitsia in particular before reassessing that. We feel very comfortable with our balance sheet at the moment and that that can support our growth profile going forward. Yes. So it's a continued discussion and assessment as we go through the program.
Operator
The next question comes from Mark Samter from MST Marquee.
Mark Samter
A couple of questions, if I can. Morné, I appreciate some of this will be commercially sensitive, but it seems to be causing such a big deviation in natural production versus capacity. Can you give us any guidelines on what the lower end of the nomination range origin can exercise? Because, obviously, it's a contract that they've been pretty public but they thought was expensive versus what else they can procure gas at and you're heading into another arbitration or maybe the [Otway] arbitration sorry, price review, which might have an arbitration next year, perhaps you have a bit of power overview into that. How low can production go if this gas isn't favor revise for Origin? Morné Engelbrecht: Mark, thanks for the questions. I mean, first of all, obviously, as you would know that's commercial sensitive information, so we can't disclose any of that information. What we can say is that, those provisions obviously apply for the calendar year. And as we said, nominations can vary on a daily basis. So they are flexible, and that's reflective in the prices, obviously, as well. As you note, that those specific contracts are coming up for renegotiation 1 July 2023. So we probably review those prices and start negotiations in the second half of this calendar year. Apart from that, normally, historically, as you would know, from a seasonal perspective, we're seeing low nominations in the summer months and higher nominations in the winter months. So we'll see whether that plays out this year as well.
Mark Samter
Okay. Yes. I try and ask the question another way. The year-to-date, obviously, since the wells happening tied in actual production has only been I think it's just over 70 TJs a day. Would that level be sustainable for the whole year or that best seasonality in the numbers that have allowed that at this time of the year versus being able to sustain that through the whole course of year? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Again, it's dependent on nomination seasonality. We did see, as you would have seen as well, Mark, in the back end of December is quite high nominations during that time. And then in January, it's been very variable in terms of the nominations that we've seen. So, I'm not sure how that's going to play out in terms of the rest of the year. But as I said, we've got those take-or-pay provisions to protect our revenue for the calendar year and then we depended on our nominations from a seasonal perspective.
Mark Samter
Okay. And then next question, if I can. Just the AUD13.6 million of the completion adjustment on acquisitions. Am I right in thinking that's just the payment from Mitsui to take BassGas and Trefoil off their hands? And in the context of that, I noticed any reference to an FID in the second half of this calendar has been removed from Trefoil and on a go-forward basis, Mitsui are willing to pay you to take these assets off their hands. Can we infer from the removal of the comment about FID that that project might have more challenges than you first thought and you're not as committed to an FID as you were 6 months ago? Morné Engelbrecht: Mark, on your first question in terms of the completion adjustment, yes, it mainly relate to the adjustment on the BassGas assets. And then the second answer to your question in terms of FID, we did our plan in the presentation today that we are progressing through FEED there. Obviously, a lot of information and data available through the 3D seismic we recently acquired as well. So we're looking at how that could impact and further inform a potential FID on the project. So we're definitely moving ahead and considering Trefoil and getting to an FID stage. As we've also outlined, there has been 2 exploration prospects we do want to have a serious look at in terms of Yolla North and West. So we're assessing that at the same time.So, the other thing that's playing into the timing for Trefoil would be the successful wireline we just competed as well. So you would have seen Yolla 6, we've outed about 5 terajoules a day, and then Stage 2 of that wireline campaign on Yolla 4 and 5 in this quarter. So, all those things combined will provide us with the information to make an assessment on FID and Trefoil, but also an assessment on Yolla North and West.
Mark Samter
Yes. Okay. And just from a reserve booking perspective, obviously, unfortunately, you guys already carry Trefoil and booked 2P. I guess, what you're going through FEED, they can stand through at this end of year reserve statement, you'd have to proactively decide not to take FID to have to write down the reserves? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, we haven't said we're not taking FID. We're saying we're going through the FEED, and we will assess all the information to FEED into an possible FID for Trefoil. So, obviously, that will come in the first half of FY '23 in terms of that assessment. And that will be flowing into the reserve process as well, that will flow through in August of this year as well. So, I don't want to preempt any of those. As I said, we're moving through the FEED, and we're gathering all the information that will inform a possible FID for Trefoil.
Operator
The next question comes from Dale Koenders from Barrenjoey.
Dale Koenders
Two quick questions, firstly on Otway gas plant. I was just wondering if there's any thoughts towards increasing capacity at the plant or removing the downward nominations through contracts or potentially using storage to increase production? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, thanks for the question, Dale. So, we just -- in terms of looking at the Otway offshore, obviously, we're focused on delivering those Thylacine wells, focused on delivering the Enterprise, FID and connecting the Enterprise well up to the plant. Further to that, we feel comfortable with the plant capacity at the moment in terms of getting that to nameplate and then being able to utilize some of the capacity there to deal with the further utilization of the plant more so than extending the plant capacity. So we do feel comfortable with the current plant capacity and obviously, the [lofty] asset there and the ability to manage that going forward with the Enterprise coming in.
Dale Koenders
Okay. And then just quickly on Waitsia. I know you're still at finalizing the SPA with BP. Just wondering how we should be thinking about sort of contract pricing. Is it set based on where terms were 6 months ago when LNG contracts are being signed with [indiscernible] to 12 or if there's scope to given the run that's happening in the LNG markets, short-term contracts now being signed in 13s and 14s, is there -- will you benefit from that upside? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, it was done at the time we announced it and those terms and conditions agreed in the Heads of Agreement will be the terms and conditions that will be in the SPA as well. What we can say is, obviously, that we have -- we're still very happy with the contract that we have with BP there. It is reflective of the current market. And we feel very comfortable in terms of, as we said before, it's got the protection to the downside there and it provides us upside in terms of during the [North Asian] winters as well with a link to JKM and Brent. So, overall, in terms of the contract we have there, we're very happy where we are at.
Operator
The next question comes from Adam Martin from Morgan Stanley.
Adam Martin
Just back on Trefoil. Can you just remind us what the Trefoil reserves are? And what potential size is Yolla West and North might be? And I think you previously told that FY '25 is first production to [indiscernible] so when would you sort of need to hit FEED or sorry, FID to hit that milestone, please? Morné Engelbrecht: Adam, I might refer to...
Sam Algar
On the Yolla West and Yolla North, we don't typically reference any prospective resource size on that. And we're obviously looking through that. And in regards to the reserve, I refer you to a previous disclosure of that last year. Morné Engelbrecht: So happy to take that up in terms of the Trefoil reserves after the call as well, Adam. In terms of the specific timing, as I said, we're going through the FEED, looking to -- if we reach FID, reset within FY '23. So in terms of the timing, in terms of FY '25, that's still very much the plan in terms of reaching FID.
Adam Martin
Okay. So it's still possible to get '23. All right. And question -- just sort of a volume question that, just comment about maintenance at Port Bonython Q4 FY '22. Can [Technical Difficulty] how long is that going [Technical Difficulty] an impact on that [Technical Difficulty] in place? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. We don't see any impact and Santos indicated no impact in terms of production. So I'll use the current [indiscernible] storage to make sure that production is not impacted from that specific facility.
Operator
Next question comes from Gordon Ramsay from RBC Capital Markets.
Gordon Ramsay
Just a comment on the Bauer pressure maintenance. Is that water flooding? I just understood on what you're doing to that field to maintain pressure.
Sam Algar
Yes. So we have a number of water producers. And what we've been doing is modifying the way that that water interacts with oil production just to increase our water -- sorry, our oil production. So we've actually been increasing water production to draw that water away from those oil producers, which has had a very strong impact upon the net oil production.
Gordon Ramsay
And speaking of water, we've had some extreme weather events in Central Australia. I imagine there's some flooding in the Cooper Basin at the moment. Is that expected to have any impact on operations, let's say, in the March quarter? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, we -- I mean, as you would expect, there was some impact to our drilling operations there, not only in the Western Flank, but also in the Kupe Basin JV, which the teams have been working around. So, we definitely focused on getting that back online as soon as possible and going after the various connections that we need to make and that we're currently busy with. We have some impact, but it's minor, and we're working to make that back within the quarter.
Gordon Ramsay
And just last question for me. Just on the Perth Basin. You previously indicated potential for 3 to 6 exploration wells. I noticed there's no comment on the number in this result. Should [indiscernible] gas discovery, will that impact that program? And you can -- can you please confirm you're still looking at 3 to 6 exploration wells potentially after the 5 development wells on Waitsia? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, in terms of the success or not success of Western South [indiscernible], it doesn't really impact our view in terms of our exploration acreage and the prospects we see there. So we're definitely looking at the 3 to 6 exploration wells there. Obviously, that's subject to us confirming and discussing that with Mitsui as well, our joint venture partner there to confirm as well, but definitely on the cards.
Operator
The next question comes from Saul Kavonic from Credit Suisse.
Saul Kavonic
Just a couple of quick questions on production, if I may. The first one is just coming back to the chart of Otway production. You put out there kind of the dark blue showing the seasonal variance there. Can you just confirm if I was to take that average from kind of that chart across the year of 2022 and 2023, that that's a really firm number on the average? Or is there a scope that we can see downside to that if Origin choose lower nomination levels? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, that's probably not a bad way to look at it, Saul. But in terms of the actual backup plan, as I said, we're not going to confirm that. And there's obviously the seasonality on it as well. So there's obviously the variability and the flexibility that they do have in the contracts, and that's obviously affected in the price. And as we said, going into winter, that's normally the higher nomination period in a specific calendar year. So that's probably as much as I can say on all that.
Saul Kavonic
So my second question then is about Enterprise tie-in in the second half of FY '23. And the mentioned in the presentation that should enable greater stability and greater to use capacity in the plants. Could you just provide perhaps some more color exactly on how that works? So other independent GSAs from Enterprise going to enable you, for example, to sell just more gas in those off-peak lower nomination periods? Or is that additional stability only going to come from those proportion of volumes that are Enterprise and the rest of it is still going to have these huge swings depending on Origin's nominations, if that makes sense? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, I mean, we see how that's playing out is obviously using the Enterprise volumes to come into the market when those nominations are lower. So to make sure we can use the full capacity that's available in the Otway gas plant during those times. So, in terms of working out of GSA on the Enterprise, that will be reflected in that GSA in terms of that optionality.
Saul Kavonic
Should we -- is there an implication there that those Enterprise volumes could therefore achieve an overall lower price because they're only going in when nominations are lower? Morné Engelbrecht: I mean, we haven't finalized the contracting on those volumes yet. So I don't want to preempt anything. Obviously, as you know, Saul, in the current market and where we see shortages coming, I can't see that we won't get market price for our gas irrespective of nominations.
Saul Kavonic
Great. And my last question is, I guess, on more on that midterm outlook. With production guidance essentially being maintained for the year. My quick math implies that, that means production must tick up, at least from the next quarter. Can you confirm, is Beach finally moving back towards a production -- an increase in production trajectory beginning from later in this financial year, and we should see that kind of increase on average for the next 3 or 4 years? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, I think in terms of the Geographe 4 and 5 wells being online, obviously, again, it depends on nominations. If you look at historic performance and nominations around the Otway gas plant, we do expect an uptick in terms of production there. The thing I would notice, obviously, from a shutdown point of view, we do have the shutdown plan for Bass or the Yolla, the Lang Lang facility. So, it will be about 3 weeks, that will happen in the March quarter as well. We should see that having an impact. And obviously, we want to see how the development wells from a Western Flank play as well during that period. So, I think it will be a miss of me to say that we will see an increase. Obviously, the -- we try to remain prudent in terms of our production guidance on that front, and we want to see how that plays out over the next quarter before putting a stamp on it.
Operator
The next question comes from Nik Burns from Jarden Australia.
Nik Burns
Looking ahead of what's shaping up to be a very active FY '23 from a drill bit perspective, I think you've got wells planned now in the Perth Basin. You got Bass, Cooper and now the Taranaki Basin. Just probably the one basin you haven't got in there at the moment is Otway. You've got 3 wells to go there. Just wondering what -- if you can explain what happens to the rig after these wells? Is there any temptation to keep it on to drill additional exploration wells in the Otway, given the number of prospects you have there and the flexibility adds to your sales volumes to the plant and the expected tightness in the East Coast gas market? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes, no, it's obviously a consideration that we need to think about in terms of the rig. Obviously, as you know, mobilizing these offshore rigs and getting the right rig for the offshore program is challenging. So, I don't want to make any predictions or forecasts on any of that, but our focus is on delivering the current Thylacine wells. And as I said before, we're working our way through understanding better the onshore and offshore prospects there and looking at that more broadly and how we could further develop the offshore point of view as well, but also looking more specifically at the nearshore opportunities that's presented there. So I think both nearshore and offshore, we'll look at them and make a decision on in the coming 12 months. But for now, we are definitely focused on delivering those Thylacine wells.
Nik Burns
Got it. And just on the Perth Basin, you've talked about Waitsia development drilling, minimum of 5 development wells. Just wondering what would flex that 5 well number higher? Is it the results from the drilling? And just maybe a bit more color around how long that campaign is due to take? I'm assuming that same rig will then move on to the proposed 3 to 6 development and exploration well campaign in your other Perth Basin permit? Morné Engelbrecht: I might throw that to Sam. Sam, do you want to go?
Sam Algar
Yes, we're in discussions with Mitsui, the operator on the appropriate number and location of the wells. And so, as is normal with any development. And so, we're looking at whether it's 5, whether it's 6 and the timing of those, the overall development of the field requires more wells than that. And so, it's a key consideration as to when it makes sense to drill those, which can be related to their exact position. And then in regards to the exploration and additional development drilling, yes, that would follow on after those developed wells.
Nik Burns
And in terms of that campaign, I mean, you've got the exploration and development, I'm assuming development is around the Beharra Springs deep. But in terms of market for that gas and when you've been in a position to outline our plans for your exploration wells as well. When can we expect an update on that, please? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, I think we -- as we said, we're focused on development wells, so that will take us the next 12 months to complete those. So during that period of time, we'll get to an agreement with Mitsui on the exploration potential and the wells we want to drill in the sequence of those wells. We want to go after the locations. So we'll come back to the market in due course once we sort all that out, which will be in the next 6 to 12 months.
Operator
The next question comes from Jon Bishop from Euroz Hartleys.
Jon Bishop
Just around the plant capacity there in the Otway. Can you remind me what limits your ability to sell additional volume into the spot market? Is the Origin gas sales agreement is predicated on a reserve number? I guess, where I'm getting to is, you obviously got a reasonable amount of growing capacity now, spot market looks to be reasonably firm. What are your limits there? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, we've got, obviously, the limits that exist within the various contracts. Obviously, we don't want to -- indeed in terms of the volumes that go to the GSAs, they are spoken for. So we do have limited capability and ability to put gas into the spot market from that perspective. The Enterprise well, as we've spoken about and the capacity that will be generated from that will obviously help us in that regard.
Jon Bishop
Okay. And then with your other volumes discovered there, particularly Black Watch and Halladale and also Artisan. What's your thinking around bringing that gas to market sooner rather than later? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, we -- Jon, we're sort of looking at that from a sequencing point of view. So we're looking at, obviously, connecting our Thylacine wells in FY '23. And then looking at Enterprise and depending on how that looks from a production point of view, with [NSS] where the other wells might come into the plant and where that makes sense from a timing perspective. So at the moment, in terms of what we can see going forward, we've got the Thylacine and an Enterprise coming up. And then during that time, we'll make an assessment on where we land on the other wells and the timing of the connections of those.
Jon Bishop
Okay. And then just finally on the Perth Basin, a couple of questions on the exploration plans there. Are you able to sort of comment as to what Beach is thinking about in a success case as to where you would take those volumes? Morné Engelbrecht: Yes. Look, I think in terms of the Perth Basin, currently, as you would know, the market is on the up. We see spot pricing touching about AUD5.5 a gigajoule in WA. There are more demand being created from specifically the resources side of things and petrochemical and other avenues like ammonia and hydrogen as well. So we do see as being commentated more broadly in the market, shortages in terms of gas supply there from 2025. But we do see those volumes potentially flowing into the domestic gas market there. And obviously, the [indiscernible] in Northwest Shelf is ever increasing as well. So, obviously, subject to further approvals by WA government, but that might be navigating to extend that in time as well.
Jon Bishop
Okay. And just a quick one then just around Mitsui. I did think I saw in the press recently, the Mitsui were investigating their own sort of mid- to downstream Midwest development concept around Gorgon or the like. Is that something that you'd be working with them? Or will you guys take that separate? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, I mean, that's for, obviously, Mitsui and them to consider in terms of their plans in WA. Obviously, we focused on Waitsia and Beharra Springs. If it makes sense then we do partner with them on those, then we'll do so. But there's nothing on the cards just yet.
Operator
The next question comes from Mark Wiseman from Macquarie.
Mark Wiseman
Thanks for the update today. I just had another question on the Otway. Just on the Enterprise well, you've previously sort of talked about more than 50% IRRs. And I understand what you're saying that Origin's got a lot of optionality on the 205 terajoules per day. When you've done the economics on Enterprise, is that based on a sort of interruptible contract we're only selling for 6 or 9 months of the year? Or is it -- have you modeled that on a baseload basis? Morné Engelbrecht: Look, I might throw that to Lee. Lee is also in the room here.
Lee Marshall
Can you hear me that?
Mark Wiseman
Yes.
Lee Marshall
Yes, I think as Morné said before, it's premature to assume that we will get a material discount to the market price, even if there's flexibility in the volume profile there. So on that basis, the level of economics we've done is consistent with the way we've explained it today.
Mark Wiseman
And just another question, can you sort of optimize your position by signing a multi-asset contract? Or would this Enterprise agreement be just for that asset?
Lee Marshall
Look, potentially, we can't say too much about the nature of how we have to deal with Enterprise other than we do have a right to sell up to the market. Obviously, we look at optimization across our portfolio as much as we can at all times.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time. I will now hand back to Mr. Engelbrecht for closing remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir. Morné Engelbrecht: Thanks, operator. Thank you, everybody, for dialing in and look forward to speaking to some of you further in the week as well. Have a good day. Cheers.