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Avantax, Inc. (AVTA) Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2021-02-17 10:36:06
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the Blucora Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the call over to, Dee Littrell, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Dee Littrell
Thank you, and welcome, everyone, to Blucora's Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. By now, you should have had the opportunity to review a copy of our earnings release and supplemental information. If you've not reviewed these documents, they are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at blucora.com. I'm joined today by Chris Walters, Chief Executive Officer, and Marc Mehlman, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it and speak only as of the current date. As such, they include risks and uncertainties, and actual results and events could differ materially from our current expectations. Please refer to our press release and our other SEC filings, including our forms 10-K, 10-Q and other reports for more information on the specific risk factors. We assume no obligation to update our forward-looking statements, except as required by law. We will discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures today. Our earning release, supplemental information earnings and presentation are available on blucora.com and include full reconciliations of each non-GAAP financial measure discussed to the nearest applicable GAAP measure. With that, let me hand the call over to Chris.
Christopher Walters
Thank you, Dee. And good morning, everyone. 2020 was a challenging, but more importantly, a transformative year for Blucora. Even as we navigated an unprecedented global pandemic, the company's new leadership team and refreshed Board of Directors repositioned our unique portfolio of profitable, tax focused, tech enabled businesses to sustainably grow long-term and build shareholder value as an integrated company that helps consumers build and preserve their wealth. This is a big opportunity. It addresses an enormous untapped and underserved market for consumers for whom taxes are one of life's biggest expenses, but who have traditionally not had access to effective long-term tax planning strategies and tools. Blucora's unique solution integrates powerful, but easy to use tax-focused technology, an extensive and highly trusted network of tax and financial professionals, and valuable data at scale to deliver holistic tax-focused planning and financial guidance that can efficiently enable wealth preservation and creation. Blucora's compelling mission, opportunity and solutions are the reason I was so excited to become CEO a year ago. They are also the reasons I am even more optimistic about our long-term outlook today. As I look back on the lessons we have learned and the tremendous progress we have made over the past 12 months. This morning, I'd like to review fiscal 2020, beginning with the short-term impact of the pandemic on our results and then turning to the long-term progress we are making, strengthening the foundation of our business and the connections between them for sustainable long-term growth. Marc will then review our financial results in more detail. Before diving into our results and outlook, I first want to thank our employees for not wavering in their dedication to our customers despite the challenges of the pandemic. And I want to thank our financial professionals who have worked tirelessly to position their clients for success, both from a tax and wealth management perspective through this uncertain time. Finally, I want to thank our customers for placing their trust in us to ensure their financial wellbeing. So, let me begin first by reviewing the impact of the pandemic, which we have discussed on earlier investor calls this year. In addition to the hardship and loss it has caused for many of our customers, employees and financial professionals, the COVID-19 pandemic had a significant short-term impact on last year's results. First, the unexpected tax filing extension resulted in approximately $20 million of incremental costs in our Tax Preparation segment. These included increased marketing spend, extended call center staffing, and other costs as we worked to finish a longer tax season while simultaneously planning for the next. Second, beyond these direct COVID impacts, we decided to strategically invest in our future by spending approximately $20 million on additional marketing to overcome the weaker performance for the first peak, but also more effectively drive sustainable unit growth. Third, in our Wealth Management segment, as the Fed funds rate fell to zero at the start of the pandemic, the equivalent of six 25 basis point reduction in interest rates, this caused sweep revenue for the year to decline 87% for an approximately $21 million impact on our segment and consolidated operating income. In total, these items impacted 2020's adjusted EBITDA by $61 million. Now, let me turn to our progress and momentum in each of the businesses and across the company. First, our Tax Prep segment. With $208.8 million in revenue, TaxAct delivered its 23rd consecutive year of revenue growth last year when adjusting for the sale of SimpleTax. Overall, excluding the impact of the pandemic, 2020 was a positive year for the TaxAct business as we've refocused its strategy on growing monetized units and feature-driven ARPU and invested once again in marketing and product enhancements to drive near and long-term growth. Last quarter, I shared a number of actions we took during the offseason to position our Tax Prep business for the long term and ensure a strong start to the tax year. I'll reiterate those for you today. First, we have worked to optimize and rationalize our entire marketing approach. We have moved from a costly agency model to a talented internal marketing team that holistically manages the tax season, and most importantly, continually builds in-house expertise. Our newly implemented marketing stack enables lead scoring, multi-touch attribution, and a more rigorous approach to sales funnel management. We have refreshed our messaging centered around our value proposition and our ability to deliver a premium experience at a reasonable price point. Second, we have continued to enhance our core consumer product offering, including refinements to drive conversion of visitors whose tax situation match to the appropriate SKUs to paid customers. Once we have acquired a visitor, it's vital we get them to start their taxes and then convert to a paid customer and then return the following year. These all represent big levers to drive top and bottom line growth in this business. On this front, we achieved significant improvement in 2020 and are building on that success in 2021. We track NPS as a proxy for our product quality. And we know that it correlates well with the conversion of starts to paid completes, as well as with long-term potential. Third, and something we're very bullish about, we officially launched our hybrid assisted offering last month. As a reminder, this product is for customers who are looking for professional help alongside a DIY product. In light of the pandemic, demand for this product was significant as customers that would have gone into a store instead chose to do their taxes virtually with the help of an advisor. Not having this available to all customers in 2020 limited our opportunity to capitalize on market growth. We're excited to have addressed this opportunity in time for the current tax season, and have received very positive feedback from our customers and our base of experts who service them. And fourth, we have made targeted strategic improvements in our tax Pro software, including coverage for more tax situations and an improved onboarding experience for tax professionals. Usually, at this point in the season, we can offer an updated view of guidance for the Tax Prep business since peak one would have been completed and we'd be preparing for peak two later this season. However, with the delayed start of the tax season this year, which just officially began on Friday, the business is really just getting going. So, an update will be premature. For fiscal 2021, we can reiterate the full-year guidance we provided during Q3 earnings, which was for low single-digit revenue growth and a segment operating income increase of at least $20 million relative to 2020. We remain confident that we will deliver at least this level of financial performance. More importantly, thinking beyond 2021, as the actions we are taking to reposition the business continue to gain traction, the targeted results is sustainable growth in this business, with the goal of returning to above-market top line growth and EBITDA flow through, first by increasing conversion in our user funnel through continued improvements in the product. This is an area where small improvements can drive significant incremental EBITDA. Second, to increase retention, again, through product improvements that are validated by higher NPS scores. This too has outsized impact on total customer values and long-term EBITDA growth. So, while we don't have immediate visibility into the current tax season, the actions we have taken and continue to take align with our plan for the season, which is why we're reaffirming our guidance. And further, we believe there are multiple reasons to be optimistic about the mid to long-term outlook for our Tax Prep business. I'd now like to turn to Wealth Management. Last year, we made further progress toward our longer-term priority of offering our financial professionals the industry's most flexible models and most powerful and easy-to-use tax-focused wealth management technology and services. We also continue to integrate previous acquisitions, building a strong foundation to resume long-term organic asset growth. As we have discussed, Blucora's independent financial professionals have experienced a significant amount of change over the last several years, which has resulted in some predictable turnover. While we expect additional turnover this year, I'm excited that virtually all of the significant changes in the financial professionals experience are behind us. Going into 2021, this allows us to focus on improving the experience of financial professionals and their clients and on retaining and strengthening our relationships with financial professionals. Today, we remain as optimistic about the growth potential of our differentiated tax-focused wealth management strategy as ever. Avantax's key competitive advantage is combining tax and wealth management. And we believe that investments in our technology, home office support teams, and our financial professionals and their practices will drive sustainable, long-term growth in our Wealth Management business. To remind everybody, some of Avantax's unique selling points with regard to financial professionals and their clients include: We're the only firm to marry tax planning and preparation with financial planning and advisory for all US taxpayers, not just ultra-high net worth taxpayers. We have the largest network of tax-focused financial professionals from sole proprietors to large multi-partner CPA firms. We offer multiple affiliation models for tax professionals to provide wealth management services, either as an independent financial professional or through an affiliate model, where our in-house financial professionals take on the work of the wealth manager. Lastly, we offer tools, training, support and community that are uniquely tailored to the needs of tax-focused financial professionals. I'm very encouraged by the progress we're making within Avantax, strengthening that business. This progress should drive increased value of the company through our continued shift to advisory where it is in our clients best interest, greater retention of client assets, and lastly, freeing up our financial professionals to drive additional asset acquisition. First, our newly organized product management team has partnered with our financial professionals and identified the key pain points that were not addressed over the last several years when the business was benefiting from higher interest rates. We've made addressing these pain points a priority and expect our financial professionals to begin to see concrete improvements by the end of the second quarter. Second, we have moved forward integrating both 1st Global and HKFS. Our acquisition of HKFS and RIA, which we have rebranded as Avantax Planning Partners or APP, allowed us to enter into a fast growing and high margin segment of wealth management with a platform that is aligned with our tax focused wealth management strategy. Just as importantly, the combination of Avantax Planning Partners and Avantax Wealth Management creates a hybrid suite of wealth management capabilities, which we believe positions our business for even greater asset growth and value creation for a couple of reasons. First, the combination enables us to offer multiple options to interested tax professionals seeking greater engagement with their clients through wealth management services. We now have the ability to convert these professionals into financial professionals, place financial professionals in their practices or work with them on a referral basis. The additional affiliate model increases the potential of bringing more of our TaxAct Pros into the Wealth Management business. Second, in addition to offering an affiliate model that removes the burden of running an independent wealth management business and allows financial professionals to focus on client servicing and growth. our in-house RIA makes it possible to offer our independent financial professionals a turnkey succession solution. During the fourth quarter, we began executing this strategy by acquiring one of our top independent firms, which is now key to expansion of the Avantax Planning Partners affiliation model in Southern California. We also completed a succession acquisition from retiring independent financial professional. These acquisitions provide multiple benefits for the company, including offering a compelling alternative affiliation model for high performing independent advisors, offering a glide path for those financial professionals looking to retire and shifting revenue to the compelling captive RIA financial model. The third area captive are a financial model. The third area of progress for our Wealth Management business last year was the launch of our unified advisory program, which was one of my top priorities for last year. Though promised to financial professionals as part of the acquisition, it had been previously delayed, which is one of the major complaints shared during my one-on-one interactions with our top financial professionals. We believe the program's incentive structure and pricing are fair across our business and ensure end customers receive the options and advice that make the most sense for their financial goals. Our expectation is that we will see an acceleration of the shift towards advisory assets throughout this year, and we'll share more on the specific targets during our Q1 earnings call. To summarize, I'm very pleased with the progress we're making, but also I want to emphasize the team's focus on significant opportunities for improvement ahead, including around service levels, the technology experience for both financial professionals and their customers, the integration of our core systems and processes, and creating greater stability by ensuring future progress is focused on better experiences for our financial professionals and their customers rather than major changes. We have much to be excited about in our Wealth Management business. Our business model and financial professionals continue to shift towards higher growth, higher margin, and more strategic advisory models. We are executing on a platform roadmap that delivers truly differentiated benefits for financial professionals. With our integration of Avantax Planning Partners moving forward on plan, we are already seeing promising early results associated with our RIA and the multiple affiliation and succession planning options it provides our financial professionals, as well as newly expanded initiatives like retirement planning services. And now let's step back and look at the progress we've made strengthening our company and laying the groundwork to realize the potential of our two businesses together. As the foundation for the new repositioned Blucora, last year, we began with the company's leadership, hiring or elevating and almost entirely new executive leadership team. We also reorganized to create scale in areas for which we previously did not have any, technology being the greatest example. In 2020, we also added three new board members with valuable and differentiated experience in wealth management, tax, digital technology, transformation, and product development, whose expertise and diverse backgrounds align particularly well with our strategies to drive value within and between our businesses. Our refreshed board now includes seven out of nine directors who have joined in the last four years. Lastly, we made significant progress organizing our companywide team around common goals and culture as we move to a truly integrated vision for Blucora and our stakeholders. I'm very excited to be part of this team, starting 2021 with the opportunity to execute together for a first full fiscal year. Also, as I have discussed, last year, we shifted our strategic focus towards sustainable growth across our Tax Prep and Wealth Management segments. In addition, we are focused on a number of key opportunities to drive growth across the enterprise. First, we are moving forward with a plan to begin converting our more than 23,000 tax pro users into Avantax financial professionals or referral partners via Avantax Planning Partners. While the company has considered this opportunity for some time, we believe the addition of Avantax Planning Partners provides a much greater pathway to success than they exist in the past. We intend to accelerate execution on this front immediately after tax season. Second, TaxAct represents a unique asset to be leveraged within our Wealth Management business. It brings an at-scale digital marketing team and technology development group that financial professionals crave, but can't readily access at most firms. We've begun executing our plan to leverage our TaxAct business to help financial professionals with dedicated self-service tools and playbooks, generate high value warm leads and provide a full service agency offering that designs and executes a firm's marketing strategy. Lastly, we are developing plans to leverage the product and technology leadership from TaxAct to enhance financial professionals' productivity. I look forward to sharing more on future calls. It is an exciting time at Blucora. We have finished the challenging, but productive year, one that saw dramatic change for our business at the start and a return to stability and purposeful planning for the future toward the end. We believe the steps that we've taken to reposition each business for sustainable growth, coupled with continued execution of our strategy, have the potential to create tremendous shareholder value. With 2020 behind us, and our company stronger for it, I am more optimistic than ever about the future and look forward to sharing our progress throughout the year. With that, I'll turn it over to Marc to review our Q4 performance and Q1 outlook.
Marc Mehlman
Thank you, Chris. And good morning, everyone. I'd like to provide some additional detail on our fourth quarter results and our outlook for Q1 2021. Starting with fourth quarter results, total revenue of $155.2 million, which is above the upper end of our guidance range, a GAAP net loss of $50.7 million or negative $1.05 per share. Our GAAP net loss was below our target ranges due to two main factors. A higher-than-forecasted impact of the accounting true-up associated with the HKFS earn-out. As I discussed last quarter, the change up or down in expectation associated with the earn-out payments will run through the P&L. The strong performance of the Avantax Planning Partners business in q4 has resulted in a more optimistic forecast for the business, resulting in a higher view of the total earn-out consideration. The second factor relates to higher-than-forecasted tax expense relating to a valuation allowance on our NOLs. This accounting driven result relates to our view of the three-year accumulated position with the impact of the write-down of the HKFS brand name, when we shifted to the Avantax brand, materially driving calculation. adjusted EBITDA, which excludes both of these factors, was $2.2 million, above the high end of our target range. Non-GAAP net income was negative $9 million or negative $0.19 per share, both better than the high end of our target range. Turning now to Tax Preparation. Tax Prep revenue in the seasonally slow fourth quarter was $5.8 million and segment operating income was negative $11 million, both just above the high end of our target range. Moving to Wealth Management. Results were meaningfully higher than the top end of our target range. Fourth quarter reported Wealth Management revenue was $149.4 million, up 10% sequentially and included a 10% increase of legacy Avantax. This revenue growth was primarily driven by market improvement, an 8% increase in trailing revenue, and an 18% increase in transaction commission revenue. On a year-over-year basis, total Wealth Management revenue was up 3%, which included revenue of $10.5 million from Avantax Planning Partners. Wealth Management segment operating income came in at $20.4 million, above the high end of the target range, primarily due to better-than-expected top line performance. Total client assets increased 17% year-over-year to $83 billion, which included approximately $5 billion from the addition of Avantax Planning Partners. Fee-based advisory assets were up 29% year-over-year to $35.6 billion. This is a new record for advisory assets, even excluding APP. And advisory assets as a percentage of total client assets ended the quarter at 42.9%, up about 380 basis points from the same quarter last year, also hitting a high watermark. We saw net outflows in advisory assets of $140 million, consisting of $203 million of net inflows into Avantax Wealth Management, more than offset by outflows of $343 million at HKFS, which were driven in part by the departure of in-house financial professionals. We always understood there could be a certain amount of attrition when we acquired HKFS as some financial professionals prefer to operate in a smaller environment [indiscernible]. We continue to partner with our in-house financial professionals to create an environment supportive of continued growth. Total client assets had net outflows of just under $600 million, which consisted of net outflows of about $260 million from Avantax Wealth Management, combined with the net outflows from Avantax Planning Partners that I just mentioned. At the corporate level, unallocated corporate expenses came in at $7.1 million. During the quarter, we had about $2.5 million in integration costs related to HKFS and 1G and $9.5 million of transaction costs, the majority of which relates to the accounting impact of the earn-out calculation. We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $150.1 million and net debt of $413 million. Our reported net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 4.3 times compared to 4.5 times at the end of the prior quarter. We continue to be prudent from a capital allocation perspective. Our ongoing priorities, aside from unique strategic opportunities, are to support organic growth, invest in our financial professionals who are interested in a different affiliation model, or want to retire and pay down debt. Our long-term net leverage goal remains to be below 3 times. And until we get closer to this target, we do not have plans to repurchase shares. With that, let's turn to our first quarter 2021 outlook. As Chris discussed, given the delayed start of the tax season, we are not providing a Q1 outlook for TaxAct revenue or segment operating income, but are reaffirming our full-year outlook of low single-digit revenue growth and a minimum of $20 million of additional segment operating income relative to 2020. For our Wealth Management business, we expect first quarter revenue of between $150 million to $155.5 million and segment operating income of between $17 million to $19.5 million. Lastly, we expect corporate unallocated expenses to be between $7.5 million and $8.5 million. As the year progresses, our expectation is to hold an investor day, likely late in Q2, where we will be able to share longer-term growth and margin targets, a deeper view of the metrics driving performance for businesses, and lastly, the metrics by which we can track the success of our synergistic endeavors. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Operator?
Operator
[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Chris Shutler with William Blair.
Christopher Shutler
A few questions on the tax business. Maybe first, just what kind of impact has the late start to the season had on your marketing efforts, both in terms of effectiveness and costs?
Christopher Walters
So, a delay in the start of the season ultimately shifts the demand curve in some way, right? Consumers actually get keyed in on that start date. And that's one of the periods where demand ramps up. And so, you would expect for us and others in the industry that some of the top of the funnel activities early in the season would still have an impact, but that impact might be a little bit more muted than you'd normally expect. But it's critical at the start of the season to get out there and make sure that consumers are both aware of your brand and positioning and your offering, but there's likely to be some diminishment in terms of the impact of that spending.
Christopher Shutler
As you think through the low single-digit revenue growth target for the current tax season, just help us think through the tailwind and headwinds to that number in your view, Chris. I would think they're tailwinds around the refined marketing approach, the new assisted offering and what's pretty easy comp, but there's a headwind associated with what seems like a kind of a reduced pricing effort or an effort to widen the pricing margin between yourself and the leader in the category. So, anything there that you would point out that – is that fair? Or is there anything else that you would add?
Christopher Walters
I would say the primary tailwinds are the historic market growth that has existed, this consistent shift over many years, which has been in the mid-single-digits and last year was more pronounced in terms of the shift from tax preparers to online offerings. And so, that's clearly a tailwind. We've also got, from a unit perspective, our return to a bit stronger value positioning is ultimately a helpful thing from a unit perspective. We also have making assisted available to all consumers coming in, which is something that provides an ARPU lift is compelling. There are some tailwinds from a revenue perspective. Ultimately, the lower pricing levels does provide a bit of a drag this season. In addition, some of the confusion in the market associated with the start date of the season, stimulus payments, and many of the things that are related to COVID have consumers asking questions about what their tax situation is. Actually, that can be beneficial for us. But ultimately, some of the uncertainties for consumers will lead to some shifts in behavior. And so, those uncertainties will impact everyone in the industry in a consistent way.
Christopher Shutler
Lastly, I just want to get your thoughts on partnerships in the tax business, especially any kind of opportunities around white label deals, just given the Square/Credit Karma deal and the broader movement of financial services towards one-stop shop platforms, I would think that digital wallets as they become more and more common would want to add taxes as an offering. So, do you think that's a realistic opportunity for TaxAct? Have you had any meaningful discussions to date? And I'm also curious, in that type of scenario, would the digital wallet firm be able to utilize the consumers' tax data if they got consent?
Christopher Walters
It does present opportunity in the medium to long term. We have worked on partnerships this year more extensively than we have in the past, but not to the extent or the full extent of what you described. But our primary focus on partnerships has really been around traffic driving partnerships from brands that consumers have deep connections with and can logically be connected with our product and then also data partnerships that actually make the experience for taxpayers more frictionless. As I said, in the medium and long term, the opportunity that you described, clearly, is compelling as those who have banking products, wealth products, financial information offerings see the value in tax. There could be some more integrated experiences going forward. And third, just to address the last question you had around the use of data, as you know, there's meaningful restrictions that the government has in place, 7216, that limits the use of data. However, if consent is provided and consumers have full awareness of how their data may be used, then it can be used for purposes that are outlined at the time they provide consent.
Operator
Our next question comes from Dan Kurnos with Benchmark Company.
Daniel Kurnos
Just a follow-up, Chris. Look, we've seen some pretty aggressive ads out there now, interesting places, by the way. So, kind of two part question. One, it's taken a long time – I think you've seen this from the beginning to get the feature set, the offering set out there. And it was always TaxAct being a big prop, but kind of sort of screaming out there, hey, we're 50% cheaper than Turbo. Is it kind of a big departure from kind of narrowing that gap? And so, I'm just curious, obviously, you must feel pretty confident what the data is telling you that this is sort of the right messaging you want to get out there and that the feature set you have is more than competitive to drive pay unit growth. So, I'd just love to hear some color around that. And then separately, on the explicit kind of marketing channels, as I said, seeing some of these ads in some unique digital places, it seems very digitally driven at this point. And I know it's early. So, you guys are probably adjusting your marketing strategy on the fly here, given the delay in tax season, but just kind of love to hear sort of your thoughts on how your spends evolves by channel as you think the tax season progresses and where you're seeing some initial positive returns. Thanks.
Christopher Walters
In terms of the messaging that we extensively research anything that we actually put out there to ensure that the messages that we're conveying are ultimately the ones that consumers and really specific consumers that we're reaching with those marketing platforms are ultimately going to be most responsive to. And so, for certain customers, that price messaging is critically important. As consumers move further along in the funnel or have different kind of interest in different segments, then we'd focus more on a feature benefits or refund maximization, and so it's not one message that you'll hear. Ultimately, there's an overarching message and positioning for the brand, and then a variety of messages in different channels based on what we've tested and what we think will lead consumers to respond most favorably. In terms of the marketing mix that we are using, all channels of marketing, so typical top of the funnel marketing like television and radio, often and this is not unique for us, typically weight a bit more towards the front of the season because all customers are still available at that point in time. It's important to become top of mind for more customers in the market. That's something that you should expect to continue to see as we progress through the season. And then, we're using digital marketing, both search, display advertising, online video, and social. And then we're also doing some interesting things in terms of partnerships that I mentioned earlier, really traffic driving partnerships with brands that actually have deep connections with their customers, and some experimenting with some sponsorships. And you'll see in certain markets, some sports connections that we've made with teams where they have deep fan base or deep connections with their fan base. And ultimately, we're hopeful that those connections can be capitalized on to bring their customers our way.
Daniel Kurnos
If I could just sneak one in on the Wealth Management side, just in terms of your color, I just want to sort of aggregate some of the comments you made. I know people like to focus on the attrition number, even though it's sort of some becoming less relevant, I just want to make sure I understand. You did say further potential advisor attrition probably on some more cleanup efforts on your side. But then you also talked about synergies post tax season to accelerate conversion from kind of tax over – that could be the other way around. I just want to understand if we're expecting attrition through the course of the year. And then subsequently, even if we are that there's certainly more than enough improvements in rev per advisor to offset that and to kind of improve growth once you get this thing kind of level set.
Christopher Walters
Yeah. We have a number of things that we're excited about this year that are going to continue to improve the advisor experience. That said, it's normal in our business to actually have some advisor churn. And that typically is at the lowest performing end of the spectrum. We expect that to continue this year. And ultimately, as we make the improvements that we're so optimistic about in terms of the advisor experience, we think the business will ultimately be in a position as we come out of the year to grow meaningfully. That said, there's a variety of things that offset that, the performance of the advisors that will continue with the business and then a variety of actions that we're taking to bring in new advisors, including what you referenced, which is us marketing more aggressively to our tax pro base where we have 23,000 plus tax professionals that we have a longstanding relationship with. And many of them could be referral partners. So, they can be referral partners in that captive model or they ultimately could be independent advisors. And so, we actually will see some attrition, but are optimistic the actions that we're taking to bring in new folks and ultimately drive growth with the people that will remain with us will lead to a positive year.
Operator
[Operator Instructions]. There are no further questions. I'd like to turn the call back over to Chris Walters for any closing remarks.
Christopher Walters
Great. Thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Blucora. I look forward to speaking with you next quarter.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the program and you may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.