Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc.

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Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. (0HEM.L) Q4 2015 Earnings Call Transcript

Published at 2015-06-18 21:19:02
Executives
Elizabeth Sharp - Vice President-Investor Relations P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President
Analysts
Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC Chris Krueger - Lake Street Capital Markets LLC
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q4 2015 Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation Earnings Conference Call. My name is Joyce and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Liz Sharp, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please proceed. Elizabeth Sharp - Vice President-Investor Relations: Thank you and good afternoon. Our comments today may contain predictions, estimates and other forward-looking statements. Our use of words like anticipate, project, estimate, expect, intend, believe, and other similar expression is intended to identify those forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements also include statements regarding revenue, earnings per share, fully diluted share count, tax rate and capital expenditures for future periods, our product development, focus, initiatives, objectives, and strategies, our market share and market demand for our products, market and inventory conditions related to our products and in our industry in general, and growth opportunities and trends. Our forward-looking statements represent our current judgment about the future and they are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Risk factors and other considerations that could cause our actual results to be materially different are described in our securities filings including our Forms 8-K, 10-K, and 10-Q. You can find those documents and a replay of this call on our website at smith-wesson.com. Today's call contains time sensitive information that is accurate only as of this time and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements contained herein. Our actual results could differ materially from our statements today. I have a few important items to note with regard to our comments on today's call. First, we reference certain non-GAAP financial measures on this call. The reconciliations of GAAP financial measures to non-GAAP financial measures can be found in today's 8-K filing as well as today's earnings press release, which are posted to our website or will be discussed on this call. In addition, please note that the primary difference between the GAAP and non-GAAP measures for fiscal 2015 referenced on today's call is that the non-GAAP measures will exclude acquisition-related expenses including the amortization of various intangibles. Also, when we reference EPS, we are always referencing diluted EPS. Finally, please note that this call references only our continuing operations. I will now turn the call over to James Debney, President and CEO of Smith & Wesson. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you, Liz. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us. With me on today's call is Jeff Buchanan, our Chief Financial Officer. Later in the call, Jeff will provide a recap of our financial performance as well as our guidance for fiscal 2016. We are very pleased with our fiscal 2015 results, which reflected strong year-end performance despite a soft environment for consumer firearms that existed earlier in the fiscal year. During the year, we strengthened our supply chain with a vertical integration of Deep River Plastics, or DRP, our principal injection-molding supplier. We also moved further into the hunting and shooting accessories arena. A key part of the overall firearms market, by acquiring Battenfeld Technologies, or BTI. Both of these acquisitions were accretive to margins. Moreover, the BTI acquisition allowed us to establish two divisions within our company, the firearms division and the accessories division. Lastly, we demonstrated our ability to wisely manage our balance sheet throughout the year, which Jeff will discuss later on today's call. Before he does that, let me provide a few highlights from the fourth quarter. Total sales of $181 million set a new quarterly record and exceeded the high-end of our guidance range. The very slight decline in firearms revenue, which was anticipated, was more than offset by sales in our new accessories division. In firearms, handgun sales of $120.7 million was slightly down by 2.8%. However, we continue to see order strength for our popular M&P SHIELD, SDVE, and BODYGUARD 380 pistols demonstrating the ongoing consumer preference for our concealed carry firearms. Long gun sales of $34.2 million were up 5% and were supported by strong sales of our M&P15 Sport, our opening price point modern sporting rifle, which provides a great value for consumers. Our M&P15 Sport is the industry-leading rifle in this category. Year-over-year adjusted NICS for the fourth quarter was roughly flat and our unit sales into the consumer channel tracked that result closely. Since then, May adjusted NICS rose 4.7% year-over-year, posting the second strongest May ever with handgun checks up by just over 10%. With regard to market share, we rely on our own analysis and key distributor feedback. Both of those sources continue to indicate that our products remain popular with consumers and support our belief that we remained the market leader in the handgun and the modern sporting rifle categories during the fourth quarter. Distributor inventory of our products declined in the quarter by about 6,000 units to 112,000 units at the end of Q4, which was well below our target threshold of 8 weeks of sales cover. Since then, distributor units have increased to above 8 weeks of sales cover, which is to be expected since inventories need to increase in preparation for the busy season of consumer activity that typically commences in September. As always, we work closely with our wholesaler partners to ensure their inventory levels are appropriate for the current period. Since we acquired BTI, our new accessories division has experienced 27% year-over-year growth while delivering excellent gross margins. We are very happy with this new division, which provides us with a broad, established platform for organic and inorganic growth in hunting and firearm accessories. Before I share more detail, Jeff will review our financial results. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Thanks, James. Revenue for the full year was $551.9 million, which was down 11.9% from the prior year. This expected decline reflected a return to a more normalized consumer firearm market following an earlier surge in demand. Revenue for Q4 was a record $181 million, an increase of 6.2% over last year. For the fourth quarter, firearm division revenue was $166.4 million and accessories revenue was $14.6 million. The gross margins were 37.1% for the fourth quarter and 35.3% for the full year. On a non-GAAP basis, gross margins were 38.4% in Q4 and 36.1% for the full year. Gross margins were lower than last year due mostly to reduced volumes and mix changes. Nonetheless, we are pleased with our fourth quarter gross margin as it falls within our targeted range of 37% to 41%. Operating expenses in the quarter were $29.8 million or 16.5% of revenue. Total fourth quarter operating expenses rose due to the inclusion of BTI expenses, including $2.4 million in purchase accounting amortization. On a non-GAAP basis, operating expenses were $27.4 million or 15.2% of revenue. Operating expenses for the year were 19.1% of revenue. Despite adding BTI, full year operating expenses declined primarily due to decreases in incentive compensation and lower IT expenses. On a non-GAAP basis, full year operating expenses were 18% of revenue. Operating margin was 20.6% for the fourth quarter and 16.2% for the full year. On a non-GAAP basis, operating margin was 23.3% in Q4 and 18.1% for the full year. Our EPS in Q4 came in at $0.40 as compared with $0.44 last year. Non-GAAP EPS came in at $0.45, above the top end of our updated guidance range. Our full year EPS was $0.90 and on a non-GAAP basis EPS was $0.12 higher at $1.02. Adjusted EBITDAS in Q4 was $50.8 million for a 28.1% EBITDA margin. Our adjusted EBITDAS margin was 24% for the full fiscal year. As we have noted before, our goal is to maintain EBITDAS margins above 20%. So now I'll turn to the balance sheet. A few quarters ago, we set a goal to reduce inventory in our firearm division to $75 million by the end of fiscal 2015, and we greatly exceeded that goal. In fact, we reduced firearm division inventory in the last two quarters by $31.8 million, down to a balance of $67.4 million, and we did this while simultaneously reducing our inventory in the channel. Including BTI, our total internal inventory at year-end was $76.9 million. Our focus on reducing inventory helped us drive strong operating cash flow of $84.9 million in Q4 and $114.8 million for the full year. Full year capital expenditures excluding payments made for acquisitions were about $28 million. The result was free cash flow for the year of $87.6 million with $5.5 million of that contributed by BTI. Based on the strength of our free cash flow, we recently took steps to optimize our capital utilization flexibility and reduce ongoing interest expense. During the fourth quarter, we used $100 million of our cash to fully repay the amount we had borrowed on our revolving line to purchase BTI. Even with that repayment, we ended the quarter with $42.2 million in cash. Having paid down the revolver now leaves us available with full capacity of the $175 million line which we renewed on June 15 with a five-year term. And on that same date, we also entered into a new $105 million unsecured five-year term loan A. The proceeds from that term loan were used to redeem our $100 million 5.875% notes. Just for reference, the last remaining tranche of our Senior Notes have a balance of $75 million and an interest rate of 5%, a call date in one year, and a termination date in three years. James? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thanks, Jeff. Adjusted NICS during our fourth quarter and now into May indicate to us that consumer demand continues to trend to its normal seasonal pattern. In our fourth quarter, the handgun component of NICS was up 3.5%, a positive trend since handguns comprised three-quarters of our firearms revenue. We are encouraged to see these seasonal consumer buying trends continue, particularly as we enter the period during which channel inventories typically rise in advance of higher consumer demand in the fall season. As a consumer-centric company, new products are an important part of our strategy. We continued to expand our product offering in the fourth quarter. At the NRA convention in April, we unveiled new line extensions that feature a specialized finish for several of our M&P pistols. And we tapped into the trend for suppressors by introducing an M&P22 Compact with a threaded barrel. In addition, our products continue to win accolades and both divisions received NRA Golden Bullseye Awards, firearms for our Smith & Wesson Model 629 .44 Magnum revolver, and accessories for our Caldwell Mag Charger. We are proud of these products awards and we are excited about the new products that we have in the pipeline for the next three years. With this in mind, for fiscal 2016, we have slated $50 million for capital expenditures. Roughly half of that amount will cover our maintenance CapEx requirements. The balance will fund enhancements to IT, manufacturing flexibility, capacity increases and, most importantly, new product development. Among the new products we are developing is our next-generation M&P polymer pistol, which we plan to submit in response to the Army's solicitation for a modular handgun system, the replacement for their standard issue sidearm. By way of an update, the Army has now scheduled a fourth Industry Day in July, and they have issued a draft RFP, which we are reviewing. As we said before, the opportunity is likely to be up to 500,000 units or so over a multi-year period and, of course, we will team up on it with our partner, General Dynamics. Now, I'd like to turn to an update on our new accessories division. As we consider our accomplishments in fiscal 2015, the acquisition of BTI is chief among them. It fits firmly within our core firearm space and it provides us with an opportunity to recognize revenue synergies with our firearms division. As a result, we expect that the accessories division will deliver double-digit annual revenue growth. This is the first full quarter for our accessories division and we are very pleased with the result. Revenue is right on track and poised to grow in the coming year. Gross margins have also come in as planned, exceeding 50%, excluding the impact of acquisition accounting. While this is currently only 10% of our overall revenue, it has the potential to deliver strong top line growth, both organic and inorganic, as well as very attractive gross margins. Before Jeff provides the financial outlook, I want to take a moment to explain the seasonal patterns that occur in our business in a normalized environment. We are often asked about this seasonality by investors and analysts so it is a worthwhile topic, especially since we expect those patterns to continue in fiscal 2015. The key driver of our seasonality is, of course, consumer purchasing behavior which changes throughout the year. For us, seasonality is also driven by the number of production and shipping days we have in each quarter, and those are impacted each year by two scheduled factory shutdowns, one in the summer and one in the winter. Given that backdrop, let me walk you through the features of each fiscal quarter. Our first quarter is May through July. This is seasonally our slowest period when firearm consumers tend to pursue other outdoor activities, so foot traffic is much lighter at retail. During this period, we and our distributors and key retailers start to build inventory in preparation for the fall season. During the first quarter, we incur one week of our annual summer shutdown for vacations and plant maintenance. As a result, we expect 59 production and shipping days in Q1 of fiscal 2016. Our second quarter is August through October. The beginning of Q2 has the same summertime features and seasonal slowness as Q1 and our inventory continues to build in the early part of the quarter, again in preparation for the fall. By September, foot traffic begins to increase as the fall season commences and we generally see this demonstrated in NICS results which accelerate significantly in October. We also incur the second week of our summer shutdown at the beginning of Q2. As a result, we expect 59 production and shipping days in Q2 of fiscal 2016. Our third quarter is November through January. It is the busiest quarter for retail foot traffic, as measured by NICS background checks. On average, over the past 5 years, about 31% of each year's total NICS checks occurred within our third quarter. Q3 includes the busy holiday season which incorporates Black Friday and Christmas shopping. The third quarter contains most of our industries order writing shows as well as SHOT Show where we often launch new products into the market. Because Q3 is our shortest in terms of production and shipping days, it is important that we have built up adequate inventory to support this quarter and the quarter ahead. We expect 56 production and shipping days in Q3 of fiscal 2016. Lastly, our fourth quarter is February through April and it is typically our strongest quarter. Retail foot traffic is still heavy in this quarter. On average, over the past five years, 27.5% of NICS checks occurred within our fourth quarter. In addition, shipments are at their highest level fueled by orders from shows and new product launches in the prior quarter. And importantly, Q4 contains 10% to 20% more production and shipping days than each of the other quarters. We expect 65 production and shipping days in Q4 of fiscal 2016. The annual revenue pattern that results from all of this is as follows. Q1 is typically sequentially down from the prior Q4, Q2 is generally flattish to Q1, Q3 rises slightly, and Q4 is significantly our strongest quarter. In a normalized environment, this pattern occurs more often than not and it is the pattern that we are currently expecting for fiscal 2016. So with this in mind, I'll ask Jeff to provide our financial outlook. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Thanks, James. For full year fiscal 2016, we expect revenue to be between $605 million and $615 million and non-GAAP EPS to be between $1.02 and $1.07. That non-GAAP EPS would exclude $0.05 for expenses relating to the early redemption of our 5.875% notes and $0.12 for acquisition-related amortization. Therefore, we expect GAAP EPS of between $0.85 and $0.90. For the first quarter of fiscal 2016, we expect revenue to be between $140 million and $145 million. We expect first quarter non-GAAP EPS to be between $0.21 and $0.23. And that non-GAAP outlook excludes $0.05 for the expenses related to the early redemption of the 5.875% notes and $0.03 for acquisition-related amortization. So the GAAP EPS outlook for Q1 is between $0.13 and $0.15. All these estimates are based on our current fully diluted share count of 55.4 million shares and an expected tax rate of 37%. James? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you, Jeff. Everyone at Smith & Wesson did an excellent job in fiscal 2015 navigating the post-surge environment, delivering solid results in a soft firearms market, and making important progress on our strategic plan. We continue to believe our industry is in the midst of a long-term underlying growth trend and we look forward to growing our company and its share of our market. With that, operator, please open up the call for questions from our analysts.
Operator
The first question comes from the line of Cai von Rumohr with Cowen and Company. Please proceed. Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: Yes. Thank you very much. So, for the sales numbers, you've got, could you give us a little bit of help in terms of the margins? The margins looked lower than I think many of us might have thought. So maybe give us some color on where you expect operating expenses and where you expect gross margins. Thanks. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Sure. I guess just in general for the year, for 2016, typically we don't give the detail but we do give our range and we do believe we'll be at the low end of our expected range. Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: Low end of your expected range in terms of what? Operating expenses as a... Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Well, I'm talking about gross margins. So what we've said is our target, our gross range is 37% to 41% and we think we're going to be in that range for gross... Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: Okay. And so I guess my question would be, you did 38.4% here, you're going to have a full year of Battenfeld which has a 50%-plus margin. It looks like demand's a little bit better. How come only the 37% area? Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Well, I mean, what we've talked about a lot in the past is that our gross margins are impacted by product mix as well as absorption. And so the product mix is a big driver because in a normalized environment right now some of the high demand products are ones that may not have as high a gross margin, as an example. There's also – it's a heavy promotional environment right now with a lot of incentives. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, certainly, Cai, we're doing a lot of promotions. As you know, we want to grow the business by taking market share. In a normalized environment, you have to be out there with the normal promotional plans in place that you're executing, and it's very important to us. So our plans are at the moment to remain pretty aggressive. As you know, we went through Q3 and the beginning of Q4 at the wholesaler shows being very aggressive and we intend to continue doing that. As you know, the strength of our gross margins allows us to do that. We're going to continue doing that. That's the current plan. Now, if the market is better, then we can ease off that promotional activity. So at least we have that in our back pocket. But our plan is to remain very aggressive at the moment which I think is a good thing. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Yeah and... Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: Okay, great... Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Cai, I was going to talk about the operating margin, because I think you had a question about OpEx too. Is that right? Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: Yes. Correct. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: So OpEx is up a bit this year, obviously because we have a full year of Battenfeld now. So I'll – but I'll talk on a non-GAAP basis, so I'll exclude the amortization from Battenfeld and talk about the – we took out a lot of – or we didn't – we're going to have incentive expenses in 2016 that we didn't have in 2015. So I think that's probably the biggest driver of the increased OpEx other than just adding BTI for a full year. Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: When you say incentive expenses what do you mean? You mean bonuses...? Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: I'm talking about the employee incentive expenses. So the fact that basically, like, none were paid in 2015 and we have a planned incentive expenses in 2016. Cai von Rumohr - Cowen & Co. LLC: Got it. I will let someone else go. Thank you very much. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thanks, Cai.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Andrea James with Dougherty & Co. Please proceed. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Thanks for taking my questions. Can you give us a sense of the market share trends that you're seeing relative to your own expectation and maybe some of the promotions you've done and how they might be driving some of those market share trends? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, sure. I can give you some highlights in terms of what we're seeing. As you know, we set out with our promotional activity back in – I'm talking back now in fiscal 2015 Q3 as we started to enter the order writing shows, we said that we were going to be aggressive because we were going to regain any share points that we may lose or that we had observed that we lost. I think our promotional activity worked and we certainly regained what we had lost, and I think it's going a long way now to helping us think about growing the business as we go into fiscal 2016. As I said earlier to Cai, we're about taking share as well as growing with an expanding market and I think we're very strongly positioned to do that as we think about 2016 which is very exciting. And given the new products that we have in the pipeline as well, I think that's going to help us even more take more market share and strengthen our position. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Thanks. And just maybe one-and-a-half more. What are your thoughts on renewing the revolver and the use of capital outside the CapEx that you already outlined? Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Actually, our revolver has been renewed. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Yeah. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: So, it's a five-year term on it and we have no outstanding balance so we can draw on it anytime we want. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: And, why renew it? I'm just curious, like, are you thinking – I mean are you continuing to be acquisitive? I mean, is that like a definite strategy? Go ahead. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Yeah, our focus on our balance sheet is to create flexibility. So that, yes, if an acquisition comes along that we want to act on quickly, we can. If we want to invest in our business, or if we want to buy back shares based on valuation metrics, we can do that. So our focus, in addition to lowering our overall weighted average cost of capital which we've kind of, looked a lot at in the last couple years, we're looking a lot right now on our ROC, return on capital. And we just need to have a flexible balance sheet with an available, like, line of credit, and then the term loan A was done to basically to fix the interest rate and lower the interest rate because it was at 5.875% before, and it gives us a longer term since the loan that we took out was coming due in two years. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Thanks. And then just another one, your business has been hard to forecast, at least over the last couple of years really hard to forecast. And I'm just wondering, have you guys changed some of your forecasting function or the data you're relying upon? And then also, is it just going to get easier from now on just because of the market normalizing as well? I'm just curious about forecasting and how you came up with your guidance. Thank you. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: I would certainly agree that forecasting is less challenging now that the environment has normalized. In terms of what we've done, I've mentioned this before. We reached even more deeply out into the market to understand what is happening, so we've got more data points than ever before. We incorporate that into a very robust sales and operations planning process and we obviously use those metrics as key data points to tell us where we think the market is going by product category. That helps us schedule the plant, helps us collaborate with our strategic partners, wholesalers and big boxes such as Cabela's. Also helps us drop in when we believe that we're going to launch our new products and so on and also major strategic promotional activity as well. So I would say our plans are a lot – and plans and our understanding of what we're forecasting are much better than ever before. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Thanks so much. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Steven Cahall with Royal Bank of Canada. Please proceed. Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: Yeah, thank you. Maybe a first question just on the segments. I thought the sales cadence was very helpful, but I was wondering if you could maybe give us a sense of what your organic growth rate in the firearms is expected to be for, maybe just for the year and something more granular would be great as well. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Yeah, we really haven't, like, broken out the forecast by our segments yet. I – it's possible we might do that in 2017 but we have a new division here and, at this point, we're not going to go ahead and break it out. We have said in general that the long-term prospects, we think, for the firearm industry is in the 6% to 10% range and we've also said that Battenfeld itself has grown, like, very strongly in excess of 20% over the last multiple years. So I think we basically expect those trends to continue. Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: Okay. Then maybe to ask it a slightly different way, I think based on what you said it would imply that this year we're going to see firearms growth kind of implied in the guidance that is well below the recent trend, or at least certainly below the recent trend in NICS and certainly in handgun NICS. So as we just think about that, is that inventory? Is that the aggressive pricing you talked about? Is it mix? Is it just a combination of those things? And is there any one area you'd emphasize there? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Still, yeah, I mean in terms of competitors' inventory, there's still some competitors' inventory out there for sure but I think mostly that is out of the way now and we're at the normalized environment. I would say that as we're thinking ahead and forecasting the year, to Andrea's point earlier on, we're pulling on a lot of data points and we're fairly confident, more confident than we've ever been before in terms of our forecast given both our improvements in our internal sales and operations planning process and what we're experiencing now in the market. Stepping back, I mean you have to remember we're a brand of choice when it comes to the consumer. We have one of the strongest product portfolios out there, so – and we have a highly motivated team here who really does understand the market, so very strongly positioned, lots of good things going on from the consumer channel to the professional channel. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: And I just would add one additional thing. In doing our outlook – in relating back to your question of NICS and the difference is we do look at our market share. And when we look at 2016, we are forecasting to equal or maintain our market share. So our forecast is based on our belief as to what our share of the market will be and that we're going to maintain or increase that share. Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: Great. Thank you. And then a couple questions on the cash. So number one, I was wondering if the CapEx guidance that you gave for the year, is this kind of a normal year in terms of run rate for CapEx, either absolute or to sales, or is there anything that's particularly notable this year that we could see CapEx coming down in future years? And then second question on cash is, it looks to me like even with the retirement of debt, you're just going to be very under-levered, you're going to have a lot of cash on the balance sheet. So how are you thinking about what you might use that cash for and timing? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Okay, I'll take the first part. I would say, our normal range for CapEx that we would expect is somewhere between $40 million to $50 million. It's largely dependent on our capacity increases and on new product launches. That's a big factor. Obviously when we're launching new products, we are targeting white space, i.e., we don't want to cannibalize our existing product portfolio. So that will also mean that we need to increase our base capacity as well as invest in the development of the new product and invest in the tooling required to manufacture the new product as well. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Yeah, and I just would follow up on that. So what we've said is the maintenance CapEx, that is if we're not adding capacity, we're not adding new products, is in the $25 million range. So anything above that is either a specialized IT project or a new product introduction or capacity increases generally. The second part of your question was? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Best use of cash. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Best use of cash, right. So, yes, I mean, based on our outlook, this company does a good job of producing cash. And what we basically do is always analyze the best use of cash. Our focus is really on two things. One is lowering our weighted average cost of capital so that we can have a lower hurdle rate for the various investments that we want to do, whether it's inside the company, organically or outside the company, inorganically. So we would prefer to invest in ourselves first, either inorganically or organically in the firearms industry. But to the extent that we think we have excess on cash, then we probably would lean more towards stock buyback at this stage versus any debt payback. I mean, just as an example, I do agree that we're very – our leverage is very low, so we took the $100 million of the Senior Notes that are due in two years, did a term loan A and basically, like, pushed that maturity out to five years, so, again, keeping the debt on the balance sheet because it's inexpensive. We paid down the line just because we had the cash and if we're not going to use it immediately, there's no point in paying interest. But we still have the $175 million available at any moment. So, again, in sum, we'd rather invest in ourselves in projects that return, meet our hurdle rate, and if that doesn't work then we probably would move into a stock buyback. (40:24) Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: Just a final technical one... Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: (40:26) Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: Final technical one and then I'll pass over to someone. How are you thinking about the call that you have on the bond this year in terms of the attractiveness, since you focused on reducing the cost of capital as a high priority? Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: You're talking about the bonds that are due in one year? Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: I think you said they were callable in a year, if I heard that correctly. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Yes. Yes, that's right. The call premium is usually half of the interest rate, so it's 2.5% in one year, then the year after that there would be no call premium. Steven L. Cahall - RBC Capital Markets LLC: Thank you so much. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Sure. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Chris Krueger with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed. Chris Krueger - Lake Street Capital Markets LLC: All right. Good afternoon, guys. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Hi. Chris Krueger - Lake Street Capital Markets LLC: Hi. Just shifting gears over to the BTI business, you went over the seasonality of the firearms industry pretty well and pretty clearly. How should we look at the seasonality for that business? Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: That basically is a bit not – it doesn't have as a steep ramp in our Q4. It's sort of flatter, because it's got a lot of sales, like pre-fall hunting and Christmas, because you can buy those products online, and not as much goes through on distribution and order writing shows in our Q4. So in all – like, all-in-all, I'd say it's a flatter profile. Chris Krueger - Lake Street Capital Markets LLC: Okay. And then just one other question on BTI. I know prior to the acquisition that they had grown through a combination of their organic growth rate as well as a variety of acquisitions of, I think, quite a few different brands. Is that activity continuing and is there a pipeline of potential acquisitions within that business that we should think about? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yes. We're continually looking in both divisions to be perfectly honest. As I said, we're very, very pleased with the acquisition of BTI. It's a wonderful addition to the Smith & Wesson family. So we're out there looking again. Many opportunities out there but, as you know, we have a very high bar, we set that bar very high, and we're also very cautious. So we do a lot of evaluation but we're not just looking in terms of other firearms-related businesses, we're also looking in terms of vertical integrations as well. So, there are other manufacturing processes that we're heavily reliant on. Similar to how we were very reliant on plastic injection molding, which is, everybody knows now, we have DRP, so we now own that technology. So we're out there looking for other opportunities in vertical integration which are our lowest risk acquisitions as well. Both divisions act as their own platform to little roll-ups in terms of acquisitions going back to more branded firearms businesses, firearms related businesses. As we know, we look mostly for the smaller lower risk tuck-in acquisitions for each of those platforms which again the lowest risk and the lowest price in terms of a multiple of EBITDA. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: And, Chris, I would add one additional thing is BTI didn't really do that many acquisitions. Most of its growth over the last, like, 10 years has come organically. They have done a few small brands but the great majority of the brands that they have they developed themselves. Chris Krueger - Lake Street Capital Markets LLC: Okay. Good to know. That's all I got. Thank you. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.
Operator
Our next question, as a follow up, from Andrea James with Dougherty & Co. Please proceed. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Thanks. James, I wrote down the numbers you gave of your revenue subsets for Q4 and I'm not – they're not adding up to $181 million and I just want to make sure I didn't miss something. Can you go over that again? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Sure. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: I'll do it right now if you want? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah, go ahead, Jeff. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Well, so we had – total firearms was $166.4 million, accessories was $14.6 million. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: And then you had given a handgun, long gun breakdown. Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: Yeah, the handguns – so handguns were $120.7 million, long guns are $34.2 million and we have this thing called other of $11.5 million. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Ah, and that $11.5 million is what I was missing. What is that? Jeffrey D. Buchanan - Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Executive Vice President: That is our own accessories business in Thompson, Handcuffs, some, like, B2B manufacturing processes that we do for other companies. It's just a hodgepodge of – it's also a Deep River Plastics, like, sells its services like B2B, the – so it's a hodgepodge of stuff. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Okay, great. Will you ever your put your own accessories stuff into the Battenfeld like roll that all up together? P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Absolutely. We've declared that as well already that we are in transition mode right now. So our Thompson/Center accessories business, M&P accessories such as mags for M&P polymer pistols magazines are in the process of being transferred over right now to the accessories division. The reason for doing that is obviously so that both divisions can maintain strong focuses on what they should be focused on. And also we have an extremely talented team at Battenfeld who run the accessories division right and we feel that they can do a much better job of growing that part of the business than the firearms division has done simply because firearms division needs to focus on growing firearms. Andrea Susan James - Dougherty & Co. LLC: Helpful. Thank you. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you.
Operator
There are no further questions in queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to James. P. James Debney - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you, operator. Please note that we will participating in the Credit Suisse Conference in New York on September 17 and hope to see some of you there. Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.